The strongest ninja so far.

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No, because since Gai is stronger than base Madara, if Gai became the Juubi Jin, he'd be way stronger than Madara.

I didn't expect a very irrelevant reply... what does it have to do with my question???
I think I'll have to leave your thread now... your level of stupidity is too damn high
 

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"naturally"???

when he is forcefully removing the body's chakra restraints which allow the body to survive?
eight gates is not a natural state neither a natural power[/QUOTE

No since Gai is stronger than base Madara,Gai would be stronger as a Juubi Jin if he actually became a Juubi Jin.

Therefore, Gai is the strongest naturally.
 

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I didn't expect a very irrelevant reply... what does it have to do with my question???
I think I'll have to leave your thread now... your level of stupidity is too damn high

Explain what the f is your damn question.

I promise you I am far more intelligent.

Know anything about monatoic sequences in analytical mathematics??? Of course not you dolt.
 

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No since Gai is stronger than base Madara,Gai would be stronger as a Juubi Jin if he actually became a Juubi Jin.

Therefore, Gai is the strongest naturally.

LOL at this guy... did you ever consider asking a doctor if you have a brain??
 

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Is Madara. Borrowed power does count, because it is power.

Fine

But damn, that Juubi belongs in the hands of Gai, where it can be used to deal some real damage.
 
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If someone like Dai, Gai, and Lee can learn how to open the gates there's no reason why other more intelligent characters can't do it. He is strong in his own right and this is boosted into insane levels when opening the gates but if all the other ninjas can do it too, he won't even be in the top 50 list because the only thing he has is taijutsu.
 

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So you compare Base Madara to 8G Gai? Nice Logic.

You either pick Base Madara vs Base Gai or JJMadara vs 8G Gai.

In that case Madara stomps all and SO6P hasnt even appeared other than stories so does he even count? He has virtually no feats other than "creating" the moon which makes no sense with rw logic but with naruto logic then sure.
 

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Is Gai.

At least naturally.


The Jubbi Jins don't count since they are receiving major assistance from a extremely strong power source.

Gai fights naturally while Madara and Obito used steroids.

If you're going by natural strength, Tsunade. Otherwise, Obito could beat him easily, phasing through, but others can beat Obito due to not having to die after using a technique. Madara is the overall best character so far.
 

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Technically, since all chakra is the Juubi's chakra, doesn't everyone have borrowed power?

So the thread is "the strongest human that doesn't use chakra so far".

Obviously Gai and Lee and Dai.
 

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Hmm. After him? Without 'stolen' power as in... their base strength/power level?

1.Hashirama - Madara
Nagato would have been mentioned, same for Obito but they nicked those Rinnegan eyes so they don't count - right?
2.Hizuren - Tobirama
3.Itachi (35.5 rating, wasn't it?) - Jiraiya
4.Tsunade - Minato - Naruto - Sasuke - Gai - Obito (maybe) - Kakashi, doesn't 'count' either does he?
 
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Hagoromo of course.
 

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Stolen power Argument still as retarded as ever

It's not so much stolen as it is a steroid.

Fact is, Gai could have ended the war at anytime but just had to wait till the last min to use his trump card.
 

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It's not so much stolen as it is a steroid.

Fact is, Gai could have ended the war at anytime but just had to wait till the last min to use his trump card.

I think the person you were arguing with earlier was trying to say that the eigth gate isn't natural because it eventually ends up killing you and that a jutsu that releases so much power so quickly can't be considered natural despite the fact it isn't any kind of doujutsu or ninjutsu. Anyway for me with 'stolen powers' it's obviously Hagoromo and without 'stolen powers' it's Hashirama or the Third Raikage for me. Although the stolen power argument is stupid yes some characters are obviously handed powers to them but it is still power. Same as Nagato doesn't have a stolen power as he was given the rinnegan same with madara and izunas eyes.
 
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