[Theory] The Story Repeats... Coup l'état

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My thoughts are he's right. Hashirama's system has proved to be a miserable failure.

You're nuts. Do you recall the system that existed before Hashirama's? Do you know the goal of Hashirama's system?

Just because it didn't lead to world peace, doesn't make it a failure, or are you fanboying so hard for Sasuke you're starting to think like him?
 

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My thoughts are he's right. Hashirama's system has proved to be a miserable failure.

As far as I can see, the world before Hashirama is exactly what Sasuke is aiming at.

No leaders, no bijuu... and a lot of war. I don't know, that for me, seems to be a failure as well.

I wouldn't not try to justify Sasuke's actions only because other people's actions failed.
 

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Not all of Hashi's village system was a failure. If the system had stayed the way it was most of the K11, Naruto and Sasuke would be dead because children went to war at a very young age. They had to worry about ambush and kidnapping. All of Madara's brothers were killed and so were Hashi's except for Tobirama. The Academy and village life protected them somewhat and had them better prepared when they were attacked. Not to mention that there were more people to defend them not just parents or siblings. Children lived to be much older in the village system.

The whole system does not need to be thrown out. Things have changed already. The alliance is working together and all kages have said there were mistakes in the past. I think they know things need to go in a different direction it's just that Sasuke would rather kill them instead of try to talk to them. He and Naruto will beat the crap out of each other until they are both almost out of chakra and then they will be able to listen to each other. Sasuke will have to give up on the revolution and Naruto will probably have to give up on protecting the tailed beasts. I don't see Sasuke giving up on that point.
 

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Sasuke will definitely "die" in this battle.

If Sasuke dies without achieving his goal then 'Indras transmigration process' will continue, which is not the appropriate outcome desired [Since both of de brothers need to attain peace] .
 

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Lol man, you're absolutely right... I missed your thread. Oh well, I guess great minds think alike :cool:...

hehe! Np.. It happens and i'm glad to see we agree that this has been foreshadowed loooong ago.
 

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Indra failed,Madara failed,Sasuke Father failed,Obito failed and now Sasuke Uchiha the last Uchiha will fail. The Uchiha the Clan of Failures.
 

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Evil seems a bit forced (Not saying that its Kishi's fault) but I'm moving towards the belief that this may be a "test" but then again, Sasuke is an idiot sometimes.
 

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If Sasuke dies without achieving his goal then 'Indras transmigration process' will continue, which is not the appropriate outcome desired [Since both of de brothers need to attain peace] .

Exactly. The cycle will continue if this were the case. This happened because Indra's transmigration decided to force the path of power, once again.

Every time this decision is made, Indra's transmigraters loses. Even Kaguya took this path, that's why Sasuke is destined to fail.
 

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Let propose another outcome for Sasuke vs. Naruto. Let say their problem is similar to Vegeta vs Goku, and this is the fight that happened between Goku and vegeta before the wicked Maju Bu emerged.

Now, in DBZ, in order to put an end to the never ending rivalry, Goku chose to lose technically against Vegeta. Since I am convinced that the retarded Indra and his people are butthurt over being losers and not understanding why, Naruto could chose to lose to Sasuke to cool him down. Then, immediately after he loses, the Rabbit Bijus will emerge and start to Kick Sasuke's ass. Then, Naruto come back to kick the Rabbit ass just as Goku was the only one able to stand against the bad Majun Bu.

This could be a solution to Sasuke's problem as he help again Naruto fighting the Rabbit. The only problem is Naruto already chose to lose once against Sasuke. well, UchihaSuke sucks just like all the Uchiha who did not inherit Itachi's will of fire.

One thing is certain in the upcoming battle:

The Worst Thing Naruto Can Do To Sasuke Is to Show Him that No Matter What Power-Up he will get, he (Sasuke) will never be able to defeat him (Naruto)​

Killing Sasuke is not an option, though it could fix the problem - No uchiha for Indra reincarnation unless Sasuke leave an egg while dying.
 
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Exactly. The cycle will continue if this were the case. This happened because Indra's transmigration decided to force the path of power, once again.

Every time this decision is made, Indra's transmigraters loses. Even Kaguya took this path, that's why Sasuke is destined to fail.

Disagreed, considering the transmigration will end with the current Duo [The curse of hatred as well - which in turn creates a balance between the yin-yang]

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- Indra will realize the importance of unity [Through Sasuke] -
 

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I don't think Sasuke getting killed will end the problem. Indra's soul will just find another person who believes power is the most important thing. It would not have to be an Uchiha. If the issues of Indra's soul are not resolved he will come back in someone else if there are no more Uchihas.

I also don't think Naruto doing a TNJ on Sasuke is the answer either. Hashirama TNJ'd Madara and Madara changed his mind when he realized he couldn't become hokage. They will both have to TNJ each other and give up something that's important to each of them. Sasuke will have to give up the idea of destroying everything and killing the kages to start from scratch. Many things have changed with the alliance and most hokages have realized their mistakes have led to this.

Naruto might have to give up the idea of becoming hokage or he might have to give up the idea of saving the tailed beasts. I don't think Sasuke is going to compromise where the tailed beasts are concerned.

The theme of this manga has been to right the wrongs of the past, being able to work together and finding a way to peace. I just don't see how Sasuke or Naruto dying would fit into that.
 
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