The Shisui's genjutsu limits and purpose

[kuramaitachdara]

Guys the have been so many threads about what will happen to Itachi and such. But I've just thought of one thing that I thought was interesting to have a dispute on. Besides fact that most people say that Itachi will either die along with end of edo or will somehow go around it because of genjutsu.
Well now i was wondering, is it because Itachi still needs to protect Konoha, therefore being directed towards next threat. Guys do you have any info on whether Komoamatsukami is just one of the variations of Izanagi? It might have been interesting that maybe after mastering Izanagi and Tsukuyomi you can use Koto... that might have given Itachi an advantage of controlling Kabuto and maybe going around the end of Edo...

 

[dareak]

How do you master Izanagi? You lose your eyes after using it. It's like mastering suicide.

 

[uffe0365]

i'd like to see the guy who did izanagi more than once... which is requierd to master a thing...

 

[Vexorian]

Well, there's a clear difference between the level of Tobi's Izanagi and that of Danzo. Danzo had 60 seconds per eye, Tobi has 4x or 5x that amount of time with the one eye he used. Danzo had incomplete mastery of his techniques, Tobi has mastery. That's the difference. Basically, with 2 eyes Tobi could do what Danzo could do with 10 of them.

 

[blackbird31468]

How do you master Izanagi? You lose your eyes after using it. It's like mastering suicide.

lol

 

[kuramaitachdara]

How do you master Izanagi? You lose your eyes after using it. It's like mastering suicide.

Dude Izanagi is something far greater than what Uchiha use it for. Rikudou used it to create beasts and other stuff. So let's not just limit it to pathetic uchihas. So6P's technique was something beyond those cowards running on hatred.. and now, i'm not hating on all, but I think their attitude towards power is annoying. But going back to thread... What simple Sharingan can do cannot be compared to what Mangekyo does. Besides... Itachi has regained his eyes and so did Nagato. They are now probably not vurnable to that threat now. (same with any other Mangekyo techniques that is assumed don't worsen Itachi's eyesight)

 

[kuramaitachdara]

Well, there's a clear difference between the level of Tobi's Izanagi and that of Danzo. Danzo had 60 seconds per eye, Tobi has 4x or 5x that amount of time with the one eye he used. Danzo had incomplete mastery of his techniques, Tobi has mastery. That's the difference. Basically, with 2 eyes Tobi could do what Danzo could do with 10 of them.

Rikkudou had mastery over it. All Tobi can do with Izanagi is just revive himself...besides noone with Mangekyo has been seen using it.

 

[I Am Pein]

Well, there's a clear difference between the level of Tobi's Izanagi and that of Danzo. Danzo had 60 seconds per eye, Tobi has 4x or 5x that amount of time with the one eye he used. Danzo had incomplete mastery of his techniques, Tobi has mastery. That's the difference. Basically, with 2 eyes Tobi could do what Danzo could do with 10 of them.

ummmm when the **** did tobi use izanagi for 5 striaght minutes

 

[I Am Pein]

Rikkudou had mastery over it. All Tobi can do with Izanagi is just revive himself...besides noone with Mangekyo has been seen using it.

no he never used it cuz it was crated after he died, your thinking of creation of all things

 

[kuramaitachdara]

ummmm when the **** did tobi use izanagi for 5 striaght minutes

exactly, it was only the invulnerable thing that lasted 5 mins. Danzo's one minute was probably just the time when Izanagi is on standby before closing. It closes after hit anyways. It was just the time remaining for use after activation by handseal.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

How do you master Izanagi? You lose your eyes after using it. It's like mastering suicide.

hahahaha it is LOL

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

and tobi izanagi lasted 10 minutes cuz konan stated her bombs would last ten minutes

 

[kuramaitachdara]

no he never used it cuz it was crated after he died, your thinking of creation of all things

same thing

here:

Spoiler

Izanagi is a genjutsu that is cast on the user instead of others and is the most powerful amongst this type of genjutsu.[1] When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space. To a degree this allows the user to control their own state of existence .The technique is based on an ability the Sage of the Six Paths had, referred to as "Creation of All Things" (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō). The process he used is explained to have initially involved the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy which forms the basis of Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then, through the application of vitality, and the physical energy which forms the basis of Yang chakra, he would breathe life into the prior form. Thus, a technique with the power to turn imagination into reality was born, known as Izanagi.

so basically the more control over those energies you have, you can probably do more with it. I don't think Rikkudou went blind. besides as i said, Itachi's eyesight would probably be back in no time just like any part of his body.
so Izanagi mastery isn't equal to suicide dareak. It's the degree to which ur using it and to which you have control over it.

 

[shmanton]

i'd like to see the guy who did izanagi more than once... which is requierd to master a thing...

you may see him but he certainly couldnt see you =]

 

[Necron]

How do you master Izanagi? You lose your eyes after using it. It's like mastering suicide.

Lol, if you suicide 10 times in a lifetime, you become a master of it xd

 

[dareak]

Because Rikudo never used Izanagi. He used Creation of All Things. Not the same jutsu.

Izanagi is a jutsu that is based on Creation of All Things. It requires a Sharingan eye and Senju DNA.
Izanagi causes one sharingan eye to close each time it is used.

The only way to master it would be to master Yin Release and Yang Release.

 

[spatha]

a question i always had, is that couldnt in theory itachi be able to spam izanagi now? Izanagi blinds the eye upon use, but if itachi (ET) can regenerate like all the others, couldnt his eyes regenerate. If that were true though, itachi is god because he can make anything happen an infinite number of times.

 

[kuramaitachdara]

Because Rikudo never used Izanagi. He used Creation of All Things. Not the same jutsu.

Izanagi is a jutsu that is based on Creation of All Things. It requires a Sharingan eye and Senju DNA.
Izanagi causes one sharingan eye to close each time it is used.

The only way to master it would be to master Yin Release and Yang Release.

ur meme suggests that ur a simple troll xD but anyways just read what's wrotten in Wikipedia. So6P used Izanagi. Just what he did, the event itself, was called creation of all things. The large scale Izanagi he performed was reffered to by that name. Izanagi is a sharingan technique and has not even been seen used with Mangekyo. It also is genjutsu o a highest level, that's why I think that all can use it must make them differ from each other as far as for scale of it's usage.

but ur right i've forgotten that you need Senju DNA. Though you can stop arguing about Rikkudou using different technique. Izanagi himself was a creator of life. Creator of all things. Evn though it wasn't maybe called izanagi at that time, Sharingan users have found a way to use it in some small part and naming it Izanagi.

But my point was : Itachi's awakening of a lost genjutsu - Kotoamatsukami and becoming a genjutsu Master

 

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