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Do you believe in something similar to the "devil"...like, something, or maybe even some kind of manifested "shadow" or "After image" of yourself that manipulates your thought processes/patterns? I think some people are fully in tune with their shadows and push evil agendas. You'll notice some people fully succumb to their evil and say or do things for no reason.

The "shadow" has the most control over those with religious beliefs, mental/personality disorders,compulsive behavior(people that just totally give into their habits and urges), poor judgement,insecurities or ANYTHING that is infantile, spreads distortions,and basically leaves an OPENING. People who don't have "security" or lack better understanding within themselves...that is the "opening". You're vulnerable, your susceptible, and it's easier for the "shadow" to STEER you into doing something pure evil.

This "shadow" is like a dark after image of yourself, and is a manifestation of whatever evil or misunderstanding you have within yourself and ENCOURAGES it...works off of it. Pushing you further and further into oblivion.

When you die, you finally leave this shadow behind. Not sure what happens to the darkness, though. I think the soul is egoless and cannot contain any evil.

The most evil and repressed, are the "goodie two shoes" that cleverly hide their deceit. They're not as simple to detect, so they're more likely to get away with things.They're very "psychological" with things and very mentally manipulative.Doing to you what's being done to them...a chain.They have people convinced of their "act", this little "act" they like to put on, and they avoid or scapegoat people who they know can see straight through them.

As for my shadow,

The shadow is a "mimicker"...it's not you, but it REFLECTS whatever distorted self-sabotaging traits you have whether minuscule or not, it's goal is to PUSH you further into those traits...become SWALLOWED by them, and even get into something even darker. It "distorts" your reality.

Some people are so "Fused" with their shadow. Compulsive behavior.
 
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Of course I don't know, because I'm not crazy. Only you have this imaginary devil shadow controlling you.
You'd love to have some kind of information so that you can just jump to conclusions about it.Manipulative. You're a puppet of the shadow.Certainly.

I think the shadow pushes you to do things.
 

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You'd love to have some kind of information so that you can just jump to conclusions about it.Manipulative. You're a puppet of the shadow.Certainly.

I think the shadow pushes you to do things.
Jumping to conclusions? You literally just made about a shadow person.

You've been watching too much Yu-Gi-Oh bruv.
 
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Yeah... I do believe in what you said. I believe we all have a human side and a devil side, and that our life is a battle between these two. We live our lives by choosing what we think is "right" or "wrong". But, not everyone has the courage to always choose the "right"... That's when the devil side enters and slowly changes their values and definition of good and bad,right or wrong. Tho, these definitions are largely affected by the society and what our parents have thought us(the coz of personality disorders and insecurities is made/has happened in the person's childhood and the way that his/her parents threatened them).

We can close the openings you mentioned above by reading books(valuable ones...not just any) ,studying ourselves,and controlling our desires and instincts(simple example, someone likes eating sweets and fastfood. If (s)he doesn't hole him/herself back, (s)he will eat more than what his/her body needs and will get fat. Same could be said about laziness,lust,etc) .

As for the soul... I agree that the soul itself is "shadowless"... But the darkness will not just go away and leave the soul unaffected.

The shadow, is simply made by our choices. And it will grow or disappear the same way. It directly reflects our humanity,courage,will,and self awareness(how much we have/lack them, and how many times have we won over the shadow or just simply gave in). The lesser the shadow,the brighter the soul. The brighter the soul,the more humanity.The more humanity,the more love. The more love,the more "being a human".
 

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I didn't read but I just want to say, every post you make is a block of text. This is an anime forum, not Socrates' hidden dungeon where all the philosophers lurk.Nobody gives a shi*.
you're incredibly biased,selective and manipulative. And no, everything I post isn't a block of text.Stop being JEALOUS.

Lmao, you're a puppet of the "shadow". This is "general discussion"...what I did was permissible.Stop trying to suppress me, you irritant.

Some of you guys are such little kids to me...

Jumping to conclusions? You literally just made about a shadow person.

You've been watching too much Yu-Gi-Oh bruv.
You're like an annoying little self-entitled brother to me. Such a little squirt.I take nothing you say personally.

Yeah... I do believe in what you said. I believe we all have a human side and a devil side, and that our life is a battle between these two. We live our lives by choosing what we think is "right" or "wrong". But, not everyone has the courage to always choose the "right"... That's when the devil side enters and slowly changes their values and definition of good and bad,right or wrong. Tho, these definitions are largely affected by the society and what our parents have thought us(the coz of personality disorders and insecurities is made/has happened in the person's childhood and the way that his/her parents threatened them).

We can close the openings you mentioned above by reading books(valuable ones...not just any) ,studying ourselves,and controlling our desires and instincts(simple example, someone likes eating sweets and fastfood. If (s)he doesn't hole him/herself back, (s)he will eat more than what his/her body needs and will get fat. Same could be said about laziness,lust,etc) .

As for the soul... I agree that the soul itself is "shadowless"... But the darkness will not just go away and leave the soul unaffected.

The shadow, is simply made by our choices. And it will grow or disappear the same way. It directly reflects our humanity,courage,will,and self awareness(how much we have/lack them, and how many times have we won over the shadow or just simply gave in). The lesser the shadow,the brighter the soul. The brighter the soul,the more humanity.The more humanity,the more love. The more love,the more "being a human".
Perhaps.
 

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Oh.. I was waiting for some "personality judgement":pick:
Or you just do that to those who you don't appreciate/who disagree with you? :pick:
you just gave your opinion.

I noticed a lot in your post, but you happened to do what I asked you to do, so I just said "perhaps".Just to entertain it, out of respect.I knew you were expecting something big, and had feeling you'd react in some way.

You have too many presumptions of me, it's incorrect. I don't care if someone disagrees, but if that disagreement is followed with an insult...then it becomes something else. I don't say things for people to agree,lmao, I KNOW that what I'm saying is true.

You give a straight honest answer, from a place of respect, I either address you back with respect or I won't freaking care. Simple as that...but, unfortunately, people fail at expressing themselves to me respectfully/truthfully...or take me personally because the way I express myself doesn't appease to their standards on how they feel someone should conduct themselves in a conversation/argument.
 
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I noticed a lot in your post, but you happened to do what I asked you to do, so I just said "perhaps".Just to entertain it, out of respect.I knew you were expecting something big, and had feeling you'd react in some way.
Your are very intuitive, but got it wrong this time.
You have too many presumptions of me, it's incorrect. I don't care if someone disagrees, but if that disagreement is followed with an insult...then it becomes something else.
what does it mean to insult you? And why do you feel like you should treat them the same way they did to you?
I don't say things for people to agree,lmao
Well I didn't say you want agreement either
I KNOW that what I'm saying is true.
Cool...how?
You give a straight honest answer, from a place of respect, I either address you back with respect or I won't freaking care. Simple as that...but, unfortunately, people fail at expressing themselves to me respectfully/truthfully...or take me personally because the way I express myself doesn't appease to their standards on how they feel someone should conduct a conversation/argument.
So...whenever people fail to express themselves in a respectful/truthful way that you've defined , or take you personally coz you think it doesn't match with their standards,you view this as stupid ,or disrespectful. I got it right or no?
 

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Your are very intuitive, but got it wrong this time.

what does it mean to insult you? And why do you feel like you should treat them the same way they did to you?

Well I didn't say you want agreement either

Cool...how?

So...whenever people fail to express themselves in a respectful/truthful way that you've defined , or take you personally coz you think it doesn't match with their standards,you view this as stupid ,or disrespectful. I got it right or no?
You're so distortful.

And you're full of misunderstandings, as explained in the OT.

There's no point in going back and forth with you. You're just twisting things as your defense mechanism.

In order for me to take you seriously, you need to have actual responses.

Common sense is, If I know something is true...it's because I know I'm with substance...
 
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Hmmm.

I think my shadow is very similar. My shadow is...

is a "mimicker"...it's not you, but it REFLECTS whatever distorted self-sabotaging traits you have whether minuscule or not, it's goal is to PUSH you further into those traits...become SWALLOWED by them, and even get into something even darker. It "distorts" your reality.
 

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You're so distortful.
what?
And you're full of misunderstandings, as explained in the OT.
Yes... I am. That's why I'm questioning you, to fix the misunderstandings.
There's no point in going back and forth with you. You're just twisting things as your defense mechanism.
Defense mechanism...
Ignoring my questions about yourself,analyzing deep within my words and my mind,figuring out my intentions, throwing it back at me,making me think like my knowledge and pride have been attacked. Feeling insecure,I try to prove you you're wrong by twisting things in order to protect myself. Huh? What a smart way to hide yourself...to run away from being known. You want to remain mysterious, a mysterious person that[thinks] he knows everything about everyone. And what way better than messing with people's mind? You are so obsessed with the truth...and you are talented indeed(in reading people). You use this so called truth to manipulate people,make them feel angry,jealous,defenseless,or insecure. So they try to respond back and defend themselves,and that means you've had an offensive effect on them. The reason you do this? Because it makes you feel powerful,confident and important. Something that you've never been.You are full of anger,angry about people who didn't care about you. You lack self confidence... That's why you want to feel superior than others. And most importantly, you are afraid of people. You don't want to seem weak, so you hide yourself. Because deep inside, you view your true self as weak...That's why you don't want to leave an opening for others to know/get closer to you.Tho,in case you still have connection with your broken self...The one that you hate the most,as it brings back painful memories. Or maybe,your shadow has completely distorted you,and what I said above,it's not just a trick to please yourself anymore,but has become your personality.
you see...you are the real twister here : )
in order for me to take you seriously, you need to have actual responses.
You don't have to. I was just trying to talk a bit. And I respond the way my brain tells me to.
 
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what?

Yes... I am. That's why I'm questioning you, to fix the misunderstandings.

Defense mechanism...
Ignoring my questions about yourself,analyzing deep within my words and my mind,figuring out my intentions, throwing it back at me,making me think like my knowledge and pride have been attacked. Feeling insecure,I try to prove you you're wrong by twisting things in order to protect myself. Huh? What a smart way to hide yourself...to run away from being known. You want to remain mysterious, a mysterious person that[thinks] he knows everything about everyone. And what way better than messing with people's mind? You are so obsessed with the truth...and you are talented indeed(in reading people). You use this so called truth to manipulate people,make them feel angry,jealous,defenseless,or insecure. So they try to respond back and defend themselves,and that means you've had an offensive effect on them. The reason you do this? Because it makes you feel powerful,confident and important. Something that you've never been.You are full of anger,angry about people who didn't care about you. You lack self confidence... That's why you want to feel superior than others. And most importantly, you are afraid of people. You don't want to seem weak, so you hide yourself. Because deep inside, you view your true self as weak...That's why you don't want to leave an opening for others to know/get closer to you.Tho,in case you still have connection with your broken self...The one that you hate the most,as it brings back painful memories. Or maybe,your shadow has completely distorted you,and what I said above,it's not just a trick to please yourself anymore,but has become your personality.
you see...you are the real twister here : )

You don't have to. I was just trying to talk a bit. And I respond the way my brain tells me to.
Don't bother reasoning with him. He'll never be able to answer the most basic of questions clarifying on what he said. That's because he doesn't even know what he's saying and just wants to sound thought-provoking.

Once you start to ask him to explain what he meant, he'll simply call you deceitful and manipulative. That's his defense mechanism.
 

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Don't bother reasoning with him. He'll never be able to answer the most basic of questions clarifying on what he said. That's because he doesn't even know what he's saying and just wants to sound thought-provoking.

Once you start to ask him to explain what he meant, he'll simply call you deceitful and manipulative. That's his defense mechanism.
He does know what he is saying and is fully aware about what I've asked. He doesn't say things that are not well-thought. And I've already explained why he behaves this way....
And yes. That's one of his defense mechanisms.;)
 

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what?

Yes... I am. That's why I'm questioning you, to fix the misunderstandings.

Defense mechanism...
Ignoring my questions about yourself,analyzing deep within my words and my mind,figuring out my intentions, throwing it back at me,making me think like my knowledge and pride have been attacked. Feeling insecure,I try to prove you you're wrong by twisting things in order to protect myself. Huh? What a smart way to hide yourself...to run away from being known. You want to remain mysterious, a mysterious person that[thinks] he knows everything about everyone. And what way better than messing with people's mind? You are so obsessed with the truth...and you are talented indeed(in reading people). You use this so called truth to manipulate people,make them feel angry,jealous,defenseless,or insecure. So they try to respond back and defend themselves,and that means you've had an offensive effect on them. The reason you do this? Because it makes you feel powerful,confident and important. Something that you've never been.You are full of anger,angry about people who didn't care about you. You lack self confidence... That's why you want to feel superior than others. And most importantly, you are afraid of people. You don't want to seem weak, so you hide yourself. Because deep inside, you view your true self as weak...That's why you don't want to leave an opening for others to know/get closer to you.Tho,in case you still have connection with your broken self...The one that you hate the most,as it brings back painful memories. Or maybe,your shadow has completely distorted you,and what I said above,it's not just a trick to please yourself anymore,but has become your personality.
you see...you are the real twister here : )

You don't have to. I was just trying to talk a bit. And I respond the way my brain tells me to.
Don't bother reasoning with him. He'll never be able to answer the most basic of questions clarifying on what he said. That's because he doesn't even know what he's saying and just wants to sound thought-provoking.

Once you start to ask him to explain what he meant, he'll simply call you deceitful and manipulative. That's his defense mechanism.
He does know what he is saying and is fully aware about what I've asked. He doesn't say things that are not well-thought. And I've already explained why he behaves this way....
And yes. That's one of his defense mechanisms.;)
Self-denial, at it's best.

shadow puppets.

there's no "basic questions", you guys are just lying.Plain and simple.You two just want a social climb, and you know it.

Charlatans, trying to sound/look intellectual. You can talk big, but a fabrication is just a fabrication.That's all it looks like.

bunch of pompous liars.

Narcissistic agenda, and reverse psychology.

I don't owe any person with a disingenuous intent, trying to hide his true colors, any "answers"...cause it's just a set up, anyways. I mean, looking at your responses, it's obvious.A trap, trying to trap me in some cluster of nonsense and confusion.A shadow puppet.

Pure manipulation of information.That's it.

What idiot opens themself up to someone trying to set them up. On what planet?It's clear you want an answer, to social climb off of me.This isn't brand new. Precisely why I responded to your original comment with a "perhaps", I saw straight through the deception. You weren't genuinely interested in the topic, you wanted an opening.And it's common SENSE not to give a decietful person that wants to sabotage your image, an opening.Common sense, don't try and distort that.You lack integrity.

And you couldn't WAIT to unload all those self-projections onto me.You must know you're wrong.

Ya'll are jealous, and I see all the signs. This was devised, and you're playing this "solemnly coy" attitude just to disguise your true intentions, which is still obvious anyways.

You're trying to ANGLE the situation into something it's not.I could give you an answer, and you've MANIPULATE it or try to turn it against me just to try and sabotage my character. You have some nerve.
 
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Self-denial, at it's best.

shadow puppets.

there's no "basic questions", you guys are just lying.Plain and simple.You two just want a social climb, and you know it.

Charlatans, trying to sound/look intellectual. You can talk big, but a fabrication is just a fabrication.That's all it looks like.

bunch of pompous liars.

Narcissistic agenda, and reverse psychology.

I don't owe any person with a disingenuous intent, trying to hide his true colors, any "answers"...cause it's just a set up, anyways. I mean, looking at your responses, it's obvious.A trap, trying to trap me in some cluster of nonsense and confusion.A shadow puppet.

Pure manipulation of information.That's it.

What idiot opens themself up to someone trying to set them up. On what planet?It's clear you want an answer, to social climb off of me.This isn't brand new.

And you couldn't WAIT to unload all those self-projections onto me.You must know you're wrong.
Dance for me puppet.
 

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UchiGOD is incredibly delusional and envious.

You're just a wannabe. You must wanna be like me.

Put on a good act, just like lightbringer. Tons of words, tons of text, tons of verbiage, but nothing to offer. A big show.
 
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