The Senju/Uchiha divide is just ridiculous

GiantShuriken

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Not all Senju are good and not all Uchiha are bad. This manga sometimes borders on class discrimination and even racism with some of their themes and it is beyond retarded. There is no "curse", there are good senju and bad senju, good uchiha and bad uchiha. I'm sure Shisui was just reeking of evil right? That kid looks like he wouldn't harm a fly. Kishi needs to seriously get out of the 18th century.
 

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Uchiha's have to go through pain to gain power.Isn't that a curse??
What they do with that the power is another thing.
 

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Being an Uchiha is a curse
 

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Dude that's part of the thrill of the manga. We have the 2nd Hokage saying things such as a "curse" and the 1st Hokage defending the Uchia. The manga has some relations to the real world. Because the 2nd grew up fighting the Uchia, he's obviously developed a different mindset than others, but it looks like his older brother "the man who defeated Madara" has a different and more understanding view of the Uchia and Madara. In terms of the emotional aspect of the Uchia and the Sharingan, everyone tends to gain new power through emotion. Naruto first unlocked the 9tailes when he thought Sasuke was dead. Obito unlocked his MS when Karin died. The list goes on and on, but in the end This anime has a strong relation to the midset of humans. No one said all Uchia are bad and all senju are good.
 

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Are you saying that Tobimara was a bad Senju or that there was a high chance that any Senju could of been a bad egg?

I agree however, look at Shisui and Itachi, both are heroes. The other Uchiha who never got a say where most likely normalish for the most part, but hey who knows. They might all have been douches.
 

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And look at it this way, each of the clans were hired guns back in the day. Shinobi are killers, but that's the world this anime takes place in.
 

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Not all Senju are good and not all Uchiha are bad. This manga sometimes borders on class discrimination and even racism with some of their themes and it is beyond retarded. There is no "curse", there are good senju and bad senju, good uchiha and bad uchiha. I'm sure Shisui was just reeking of evil right? That kid looks like he wouldn't harm a fly. Kishi needs to seriously get out of the 18th century.
it's like saying that the nazis weren't evil, sure they weren't, lots of them weren't especially low ranked soldiers that only listened to propaganda (ugh kill those ****** civilians, rape them, they're a threat to your families and your country) heard on the radio, but most of them actually enjoyed what they did. It might not be fair calling all of them evil but 99% of all uninformed bastards do, and considering that the manga kishi wrote is supposed to be set somewhere in a medieval setting where a few more advanced technologies were invented, but most new stuff wasnt (mostly guns and other stuff), most people are uninformed idiots with no access to libraries or internet, retarded peasants that call X evil or Y good just because they saw a few angsty sasucke-like shinobis from the X group.
 

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it's like saying that the nazis weren't evil, sure they weren't, lots of them weren't especially low ranked soldiers that only listened to propaganda (ugh kill those ****** civilians, rape them, they're a threat to your families and your country) heard on the radio, but most of them actually enjoyed what they did. It might not be fair calling all of them evil but 99% of all uninformed bastards do, and considering that the manga kishi wrote is supposed to be set somewhere in a medieval setting where a few more advanced technologies were invented, but most new stuff wasnt (mostly guns and other stuff), most people are uninformed idiots with no access to libraries or internet, retarded peasants that call X evil or Y good just because they saw a few angsty sasucke-like shinobis from the X group.

How can you compare the Nazis to the Uchiha? I'm sure that fat lady that was friends with Sasuke's family just wanted to torture and kill innocent Senju right? Most of them didn't even know about the coup.
 

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WTF Itachi who has been talked about the entire manga is the perfect example of a good Itachi so tell me again how the manga is making the Uchiha out to be bad guys? There is also Shisui who was a good guy and some others. And ofcourse Tobirama seems like he isnt baised at all when he says the Uchiha are cursed, and even so he goes on to say they love even more than the Senju do.
 

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"Dont read Naruto Manga ever again" is way problem would solved.
 
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