The Secret of Madara's Eyes

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We all know that Itachi had Tsukyomi in his left eye...

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and Amaterasu from his right eye...

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But, with Sasuke it was different. He had Amaterasu from his left eye...

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and Tsukyomi from his right eye...

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However, what if Madara has Tsukyomi and Amaterasu in both eyes, like Amaterasu from the left and right and Tsukyomi from the left as well as the right?

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That would take a hell lot of strain and maybe that's why he lost his eye-sight so quick. But when he got EMS, he could use both for as much as he wanted but didn't need to. Amaterasu is useless against Hashirama since he has Mokuton. Which would mean, each time Madara spams Amaterasu, Hashirama would use Mokuton as a shield; it would miss Hashirama every time. Tsukyomi would also be useless since Hashirama was supposedly so skilled that he could fight without gazing into Madara's eyes.

Susano was also not needed in the fight against Hashirama since Madara had the Kyubi under his power. However, when the Kyubi was restrained by Hashirama's mokuton, so was Madara xd thus Madara could not summon Susano since he was unable to move. To put it simply, Mokuton + Fuinjutsu are sufficient to overpower and kill Madara.

no.

its said that his wife mito was the one who took down the nine tails and became the first jinchi aiding hashriama in his fight against madara.

This explains how hashirama beat madara

 

[Frankenstein]

We don't even know if Sasuke has Tsukuyomi.
Or Madara Amaterasu.

I mean it's not like we saw them using it yet.

 

[Ludicrous]

But madara has the rinnegan now. Is that good enough to defeat hashirama's wood style?

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

But madara has the rinnegan now. Is that good enough to defeat hashirama's wood style?

Yah, I believe Madara can defeat Hashirama now since not only has he upgraded his dojutsu to Rinnegan but also has one of the renowned and unique abilities of Hashirama which is Mokuton. This is when Oro's intelligence comes in. He knows that Madara is on a completely different level than he was during his prime as Kabuto stated. So that's why Oro's also revived the other 3 Hokage to ensure Madara's and Obito's death It's quite clear that Obito and Madara have no chance against the 3 Hokage along with the Alliance. U_U

if madara is that powerfull, then why do people sitll compare him to sasuke? nice thread by the way.

Only a certain type of people do such a dreadful thing :sy: Fanboys! Thanks by the way

no.

its said that his wife mito was the one who took down the nine tails and became the first jinchi aiding hashriama in his fight against madara.

This explains how hashirama beat madara

Yah, you've just stated the rest of what would have happened in their fight. Basically this is how I see it, Hashirama bound both the Kyubi along with Madara. He then sealed the Kyubi somehow inside Mito enabling her to become the first Jinchuriki of the Kyubi, maybe with the help of Mokuton bunshin. Hashirama then tried to kill Madara but he fails since Madara spams Izanagi. Madara either steals some Senju DNA now or while he was trapped within mokuton, and escapes.

 

[FearxDeath]

Wrong, If you watch Madara's fight with Hashrama around 3:25 it shows madara activating his Sharingan and then looking into the future past the smoke cloud that Hashirama put up to keep him from seeing his attacks coming. The activation of his Sharingan is back up by the fact that his eyes light up and then start spinning.

To me this signifies that his MS ability is to look about 1 minute into the future and then act upon what he has just seen.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Wrong, If you watch Madara's fight with Hashrama around 3:25 it shows madara activating his Sharingan and then looking into the future past the smoke cloud that Hashirama put up to keep him from seeing his attacks coming. The activation of his Sharingan is back up by the fact that his eyes light up and then start spinning.

To me this signifies that his MS ability is to look about 1 minute into the future and then act upon what he has just seen.

That probably is one of his abilities but officially the full fight is not shown anywhere. Like I said earlier on, Mokuton + Fuinjutsu is sufficient enough to fodderize and kill Madara. What's more is they go hand in hand. I believe Hashirama used Mokuton to grab Madara and the Kyubi, he then used a Fuinjutsu to seal the Kyubi inside Mito while Madara uses Izanagi to escape the fight. Hashirama won via decisive victory since Madara escaped. He knew he was too weak, and could've died.

However, with Edo Madara it's a different story. This is why Oro has done the perfect thing in order to completely eradicate both Madara and Obito by summoning all 4 legendary Hokage. If Edo Madara defeats Hashirama and Tobirama, Minato will be right behind to seal em. Hiruzen alone will be enough for Obito.

 

[shadedcrow]

Pretty much no to everything in the op..

 

[Draphsin]

Lmao, that was when Obito was not revealed and was supposedly called Madara. You can see by the context that whoever wrote that is unsure and is theorizing. It's never certain that Obito used Kamui to escape from Amaterasu. "Mokuton >> Amaterasu" seems more believable I think.

rofl :rofl: dont be a fanboy, this is databook and is just as much fact as manga. The reason it sounds speculative is because at the time nobody knew who tobi was so it was to add to the mystery, everything on that databook is true so why wouldnt that statement be true too? bottom line is he used kamui, and its ignorant to think otherwise :sy:

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

rofl :rofl: dont be a fanboy, this is databook and is just as much fact as manga. The reason it sounds speculative is because at the time nobody knew who tobi was so it was to add to the mystery, everything on that databook is true so why wouldnt that statement be true too? bottom line is he used kamui, and its ignorant to think otherwise :sy:

Ok maybe that databook scan is true then but your point was that Amaterasu will burn through Mokuton right? Well, the Senju DNA connected to Obito seems weaker than Mokuton which Hashirama uses in battle. And as we saw clearly in the anime, when Obito was struck with Amaterasu, it obviously did not instantly burn through him otherwise he would've died So your point was invalid, Amaterasu can't even pentrate through the Senju DNA on Obito which is weaker than Mokuton so it's ineffective.

 

[Thundercles]

He went blind quick due to the fact that he spams techs and was in constant war.