The sannin vs onoki, muu, and gaara

[jay2512]

Title says it,

Conditions:

-Muu is edo
-everyone is healthy
-manga intel
-orochimaru could use the 1st and 2nd hokages as edos but that's it

battlefield: a beach
Distance: 200ft

Thoughts on which team would win??

I haven't decided yet

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Team Sannin high diff.

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Oro can use Hashirama as Edo?

You realise that Hashi edo was only so 'weak' because it was in part 1 right? Tsunade protects Oro while he controls Hashirama and they both protect Jiraiya whilst he gets into SM, once they're both set, game over for Team 2; Sannin take it mid dif.

 

[Negative Knight]

Team Jinton disintegrate the opposition. Gaara includes their dust into his Sand gourd xd.

Seriously though, Team Jinton still take this. Tsunade isn't useful in this battle due to the argument of range. All of Team 2 are aerial fighters. Summons become problematic to summon, SM has activation time, and Oro can't take 2 Jinton users.

Its stacked in the Kages favour.

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Team Jinton disintegrate the opposition. Gaara includes their dust into his Sand gourd xd.

Seriously though, Team Jinton still take this. Tsunade isn't useful in this battle due to the argument of range. All of Team 2 are aerial fighters. Summons become problematic to summon, SM has activation time, and Oro can't take 2 Jinton users.

Its stacked in the Kages favour.

Hardly. Did you see the line where he said Oro can use Hashirama as an Edo?

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Hardly. Did you see the line where he said Oro can use Hashirama as an Edo?

I reconsidered, and I vote team Tsuchikage hard diff. Why? Simply.

Muu is an edo. He can continously spam the Jinton to stop Hashirama and Tobirama from regenerating themselves.
Onoki can kill Tsunade with the Jinton almost easily. She can't dodge it and she can't heal herself.
Gaara can hold himself until Onoki deals with Tsunade, then they can defeat Jman and Oro.

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

I reconsidered, and I vote team Tsuchikage hard diff. Why? Simply.

Muu is an edo. He can continously spam the Jinton to stop Hashirama and Tobirama from regenerating themselves.
Onoki can kill Tsunade with the Jinton almost easily. She can't dodge it and she can't heal herself.
Gaara can hold himself until Onoki deals with Tsunade, then they can defeat Jman and Oro.

Let's see that manga panel with Muu's almighty 10ft Jinton again shall we?

Oonoki's jinton is superior, and he's not an edo.

You seem to think that all Mokuton comes in a linear pattern from HashiEdo to them, it doesn't work like that, and you are underrating Hashirama Edo a huge amount here, and Hashirama and Tobirama make it even worse. 1st and 2nd can hold off all 3 attackers whilst Jman enters SM (Remember Tobirama = Water = Sands weakness = Useless Gara)

Once Jman enters sage mode, Hashirama, Tobirama and Sage Mode Jiraiya proceed to fist them, with Tsunade playing a back up role in case of healing being needed.

 

[jay2512]

Let's see that manga panel with Muu's almighty 10ft Jinton again shall we?

Oonoki's jinton is superior, and he's not an edo.

You seem to think that all Mokuton comes in a linear pattern from HashiEdo to them, it doesn't work like that, and you are underrating Hashirama Edo a huge amount here, and Hashirama and Tobirama make it even worse. 1st and 2nd can hold off all 3 attackers whilst Jman enters SM (Remember Tobirama = Water = Sands weakness = Useless Gara)

Once Jman enters sage mode, Hashirama, Tobirama and Sage Mode Jiraiya proceed to fist them, with Tsunade playing a back up role in case of healing being needed.

im slowly formulating an opinion towards this matchup. good points on both sides of the argument. I think edo hashirama and tobirama indeed make this more difficult for the kages but orochimaru controlling them makes it less worse than if hashi or tobirama could think and make decisions for themselves.

edit: also i don't think anyone is underrating hashi but i think people overrate orochimaru's use of them. honestly, orochimaru could have beat hiruzen without losing his arms if he wasn't so arrogant.

 

[genii96]

Let's see that manga panel with Muu's almighty 10ft Jinton again shall we?

Oonoki's jinton is superior, and he's not an edo.

You seem to think that all Mokuton comes in a linear pattern from HashiEdo to them, it doesn't work like that, and you are underrating Hashirama Edo a huge amount here, and Hashirama and Tobirama make it even worse. 1st and 2nd can hold off all 3 attackers whilst Jman enters SM (Remember Tobirama = Water = Sands weakness = Useless Gara)

Once Jman enters sage mode, Hashirama, Tobirama and Sage Mode Jiraiya proceed to fist them, with Tsunade playing a back up role in case of healing being needed.

muu made a jinton to counter onoki,his body was auto piloted to counter the tech,so he made a jinton the same as onoki,just like gaara's dad making his wavt the same size as gaara. He could easily do what onoki did,especially with unlimited chakra.

Edo hashirama under oro is weak,bcos his seals rob him of his mind,thereby limiting his power usage unlike kabuto who has surpassed oro in edo tensei. Hashirama and tobirama wont really do much here.

Dont know if you pay close attention to he manga or not,but water is useless against gaara,and his sand actually absorbs it making suiton useless,so tobirama isnt much of a threat.

Muu and onoki doing jinton finishes the sannin

 

[KidGamer65]

Team Sannin win since gave Orochimaru Edo Tensei.

 

[Yuka]

Definitely Team Sannin.

 

[Champ]

Team 1

 

[Bijuu13]

muu made a jinton to counter onoki,his body was auto piloted to counter the tech,so he made a jinton the same as onoki,just like gaara's dad making his wavt the same size as gaara. He could easily do what onoki did,especially with unlimited chakra.

Edo hashirama under oro is weak,bcos his seals rob him of his mind,thereby limiting his power usage unlike kabuto who has surpassed oro in edo tensei. Hashirama and tobirama wont really do much here.

Dont know if you pay close attention to he manga or not,but water is useless against gaara,and his sand actually absorbs it making suiton useless,so tobirama isnt much of a threat.

Muu and onoki doing jinton finishes the sannin

Couldnt be any more wrong

Team Sannin win mid dif

 

[genii96]

Couldnt be any more wrong

Team Sannin win mid dif

really?,oro's edos cudnt use their full powers or anything close to it

how does the sannin even seal an edo like muu?

 

[BigBlade Master]

Team 1 will win

 

[KillerMongoose]

really?,oro's edos cudnt use their full powers or anything close to it

how does the sannin even seal an edo like muu?

That is incorrect Orochimaru's edo's do have full power.

Sannin would win mid - high mid difficulty.

 

[the dark king]

team 2 because orochimaru controlling the edos makes them much weaker than they are. and people shouldn't forget that if team 2 take flight its just a matter of the two jinton users combining their powers and gaara sealing the edos. if it was kabuto's edo tensei where the edo's fight like they normally would in a battle then i'd vote team 1 but team 2 has them outmatched. tsunade is useless here and jiraya's sage mode takes to long to prep so onoki can can handle both tsunade and jiraya +their summons, while muu and gaara focus on oro and his 2 mindless drones (note that this battle will most likely take plce in from the air and if it does team saanin is screwed.) tsunami of sand + jinton = dead orochimaru muu being edo is just overkill but it helps alot

people think the match is over since oro has two mindless edo legends that he himelf has to control, well thats not good enough to win especially when oro's backup i.e his fellow sanin are useless here

team 2 mid-high diff (oro sucks at controlling the kage and his teammates are useless)

 

[genii96]

That is incorrect Orochimaru's edo's do have full power.

Sannin would win mid - high mid difficulty.

yea,but the seals oro uses limits it greatly,did you not see how hashirama fought?. Not to mention all of team 3 can fly

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

gaara seals weak hokages.
and nothing they can do can stop mu

Orochimaru's edo's do have full power.

not quite

Oonoki's jinton is superior

how so? mu taught him everything. mu's an edo so he just jinton spams

Remember Tobirama = Water = Sands weakness = Useless Gara)

sand has never even been slowed down by water. useless comment

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Well, jman can use a barrier to detect muu, and once he's in SM, everyone get's raped. Jinton has never been shown to be unescapable, and sm jman is ridiculously fast.
We dont know how much chakra muu has, but oonoki can only use one jinton.Adding orochimaru, and by extent, edo homages, this is just unfair.