The Sannin are not equal

[Hmph]

A lot of posters (mainly Tsunade and Orochimaru fans) are under the delusion that the Sannin are equal in power, simple because of that title...Are you guys being serious? lol

Sannin title- It was given to them by a guy who beat the crap out of them (Hanzo) and they were much younger back then.

The Sannin title is nothing special these days...for example

Let's say Tobi beats the crap out of Kakashi and Gai...Tobi: I NOW NAME YOU SANNIN V2 FOR LASTING THIS LONG!

Get it? Lol.

On to the Sannin's abilities, going by feats, Jiraiya is the strongest, that's not even up for debate.

Yeah, Orochimaru has edo tensei and the most potential, but let's face facts, his feats are inferior to that of Jiraiya's, maybe he is Jiraiya's equal, but does he have the feats to back that up? No he doesn't. Before someone brings up holding his own against 4 tailed naruto let's not forget even kakashi and gai were holding their own against multiple v2 jins.

Tsunade- Tsunade fans like to ignore the fact that a part 1 Kabuto who is not skilled in taijutsu managed to tag and react to her without a lot of difficulties. Now maybe you guys get mad I'm not saying Tsunade is weaker than him lol no but she isn't fast by any means, at least compared to faster characters like Gai, Sasuke, Kakashi etc etc

Tsunade isn't slow, but she is certainly not fast enough. Her attacks are linear and easy to dodge if you have some decent speed, as evidenced by the manga. She is not very versatile and her fighting style is boring.

-get implaled
-smash smash smash
-heal

now, i'm not hating on Tsunade, she's a great ninja overall, she excels in other areas like healing, but when it comes to combat even the likes of Gai /Kakashi/Kakuzu/Kisame are far superior than her. She also has a lot of chakra and great healing abilities which is why she's lasted this long against Madara's clone who have been toying with them.


Last point, there is no such thing as "Sannin level" since the Sannin are not equal in overall power until proven otherwise.

 

[killblow]

Yeah they ARE not equal.

 

[mistype]

Ye, they aren't equal.
Tsunade would beat Oro and J-Man.

Because they are dead.

And now shut the fu*k up.

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[Vasto Lordé]

I somewhat agree, though still by your own description I say Oro > J-man > Tsunade.

And btw, I have a feeling your sig is not appropriate >_>

 

[asad70ful]

I somewhat agree, though still by your own description I say Oro > J-man > Tsunade.

And btw, I have a feeling your sig is not appropriate >_>

i dont knw about sanins but i knw about u that ur sig is not good,there r also kids on this site so plz
behave urself

 

[NakedNinja]

very good my friend i agree

 

[Anduril]

A lot of posters (mainly Tsunade and Orochimaru fans) are under the delusion that the Sannin are equal in power, simple because of that title...Are you guys being serious? lol

Sannin title- It was given to them by a guy who beat the crap out of them (Hanzo) and they were much younger back then.

The Sannin title is nothing special these days...for example

Let's say Tobi beats the crap out of Kakashi and Gai...Tobi: I NOW NAME YOU SANNIN V2 FOR LASTING THIS LONG!

Get it? Lol.

On to the Sannin's abilities, going by feats, Jiraiya is the strongest, that's not even up for debate.

Yeah, Orochimaru has edo tensei and the most potential, but let's face facts, his feats are inferior to that of Jiraiya's, maybe he is Jiraiya's equal, but does he have the feats to back that up? No he doesn't. Before someone brings up holding his own against 4 tailed naruto let's not forget even kakashi and gai were holding their own against multiple v2 jins.

Tsunade- Tsunade fans like to ignore the fact that a part 1 Kabuto who is not skilled in taijutsu managed to tag and react to her without a lot of difficulties. Now maybe you guys get mad I'm not saying Tsunade is weaker than him lol no but she isn't fast by any means, at least compared to faster characters like Gai, Sasuke, Kakashi etc etc

Tsunade isn't slow, but she is certainly not fast enough. Her attacks are linear and easy to dodge if you have some decent speed, as evidenced by the manga. She is not very versatile and her fighting style is boring.

-get implaled
-smash smash smash
-heal

now, i'm not hating on Tsunade, she's a great ninja overall, she excels in other areas like healing, but when it comes to combat even the likes of Gai /Kakashi/Kakuzu/Kisame are far superior than her. She also has a lot of chakra and great healing abilities which is why she's lasted this long against Madara's clone who have been toying with them.


Last point, there is no such thing as "Sannin level" since the Sannin are not equal in overall power until proven otherwise.

You are dumb because of the part i highlighted and also it made me stop reading the further part.

Sannin always comprises of three people that's why it is Sannin.

 

[HeyApple]

Ye, they aren't equal.
Tsunade would beat Oro and J-Man.

Because they are dead.

And now shut the fu*k up.

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loooooooled so hard loooooool

 

[Sublime]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=6921481" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-6921481">Hmph said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> A lot of posters (mainly Tsunade and Orochimaru fans) are under the delusion that the Sannin are equal in power, simple because of that title...Are you guys being serious? lol<br /> <br /> <span style="color: Green">Sannin title- It was given to them by a guy who beat the crap out of them (Hanzo) and they were much younger back then.<br /> <br /> The Sannin title is nothing special these days...for example<br /> <br /> Let's say Tobi beats the crap out of Kakashi and Gai...Tobi: I NOW NAME YOU SANNIN V2 FOR LASTING THIS LONG!<br /> <br /> Get it? Lol.<br /> </span><br /> On to the Sannin's abilities, <b>going by feats</b>, <span style="color: DarkRed">Jiraiya is the strongest, that's not even up for debate. </span><br /> <br /> <span style="color: DarkRed">Yeah, Orochimaru has edo tensei and the most potential, but let's face facts, his feats are inferior to that of Jiraiya's, maybe he is Jiraiya's equal, but does he have the feats to back that up?</span> No he doesn't. Before someone brings up holding his own against 4 tailed naruto let's not forget even kakashi and gai were holding their own against multiple v2 jins.<br /> <br /> <span style="color: DarkOrange">Tsunade- Tsunade fans like to ignore the fact that a part 1 Kabuto who is not skilled in taijutsu managed to tag and react to her without a lot of difficulties. </span>Now maybe you guys get mad I'm not saying Tsunade is weaker than him lol no but she isn't fast by any means, at least compared to faster characters like Gai, Sasuke, Kakashi etc etc<br /> <br /> Tsunade isn't slow, but she is certainly not fast enough. Her attacks are linear and easy to dodge if you have some decent speed, as evidenced by the manga. She is not very versatile and her fighting style is boring.<br /> <br /> -get implaled<br /> -smash smash smash<br /> -heal<br /> <br /> now, i'm not hating on Tsunade, she's a great ninja overall, she excels in other areas like healing, but when it comes to combat <span style="color: Purple">even the likes of Gai /Kakashi/Kakuzu/Kisame are far superior than her. </span>She also has a lot of chakra and great healing abilities which is why she's lasted this long against Madara's clone who have been <b>toying</b> with them.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="color: Magenta">Last point, there is no such thing as &quot;Sannin level&quot; since the Sannin are not equal in overall power until proven otherwise.</span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>@<span style="color: Green">Green:</span> Here is were the fail starts since Sannin means 'The 3' and thus it consists of a group of 3 people not two.<br /> Anyway leaving this aside because you probably didn't know lets continue with the other things i can easily argue with in this thread.<br /> <br /> @<span style="color: DarkRed">DarkRed</span> Oh really mr Jiraya fanboy <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /> Tell me the great FEATS of Jiraya...<br /> what is it? Oh YEAH! he lasted for 30mins at most fighting Pain. that is what you mean a big feat? If its only that then you fail badly.<br /> <br /> Orochimaru,darling,mastered and studied at least 10*times the jutsus jiraya knows.<br /> He created TWO! Self incarnating jutsus.<br /> He created his own village and produced competitive ninjas in it.<br /> He excelled in science and mixed all kinds of stuff in his experiments and the Kabuto we see know in the manga is actually the result of Oro's DNA mix and matches.<br /> <br /> So yeah,dont tell me that Jiraya's feats are greater then Orochimaru's cause they are not.<br /> <br /> @<span style="color: DarkOrange">Orange</span> Part 1 Tsunade had blood fear thats why she was loosing. After the fight tho she manned up and now deals with blood like its nothing.<br /> Tsunade&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Kabuto Part1<br /> <br /> @<span style="color: Purple">Purple</span> Ok Dude,keep dreaming....<br /> <br /> @<span style="color: Magenta">Pink</span> The only thing I agree with in this whole fail-of-a-thread.</div>

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

I still say Oro is above J-man due to the outcome of their fights with Naruto with 4 tails. Jiraiya says that he was almost killed by him and Oro didn't seem to be in any real danger until Naruto used a TBB. Thanks to his body experiments Oro>Jiraiya

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

I still say Oro is above J-man due to the outcome of their fights with Naruto with 4 tails. Jiraiya says that he was almost killed by him and Oro didn't seem to be in any real danger until Naruto used a TBB. Thanks to his body experiments Oro>Jiraiya

J-man wanted to use a key to seal the chakra back up and he was surprised naruto lost control and he didnt want to hurt naruto if j-man wanted to injure naruto he would have beat him as bad as oro did

 

[psukkar]

I haven't got much to say about this but that the power order goes like this;

Jiraiya>orocihmaru>tsuade


Many characters in the series have ackknowledged how powerful jiraiya is, even orocihmaru gives him some prasise. There's no point in even debating this the manga has expressed this many times.

Ocorihmaru's main problem was that he changed bodies, that actually made him weaker over the years went on. Also his techs arent as destructive as jiraiya's. they more about changing the balance of nature, hes really a mad scientist sort character. Jiraiya is the sannin's front line fighter with his sage mode, thats obvious.

Tsaude is a medical ninja so he cant fight in the front lines with jiraiya and orocihmaru, thats the whole point of a medical ninja. Shes good for support and lets leave it as that. His powers like power punches and kicks are more a diversion to set up openings as they are straight forward to doadge in nature. but if they land they will hurt thats why her style is set up oopenings for the rest of the team to fight in harder situations like the kage battle now for example.

I still say Oro is above J-man due to the outcome of their fights with Naruto with 4 tails. Jiraiya says that he was almost killed by him and Oro didn't seem to be in any real danger until Naruto used a TBB. Thanks to his body experiments Oro>Jiraiya

dude jiraiya was protecting naruto from the fox trying to place the chakra supress seal on him. Nither jiraiya or orichimaru have what it takes to take on naruto's fox mode but jiraiya was trying to restore naruto, while orocihmaru was trying to kill. very different dude, otherwise jiraiya wouldnt be naruto's sensei lol.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

J-man wanted to use a key to seal the chakra back up and he was surprised naruto lost control and he didnt want to hurt naruto if j-man wanted to injure naruto he would have beat him as bad as oro did

dude jiraiya was protecting naruto from the fox trying to place the chakra supress seal on him. Nither jiraiya or orichimaru have what it takes to take on naruto's fox mode but jiraiya was trying to restore naruto, while orocihmaru was trying to kill. very different dude, otherwise jiraiya wouldnt be naruto's sensei lol.

Do you really think that Jiraiya didn't realize that he couldn't hurt Naruto in that mode even if he wanted to? He was even able to tell Tsunade and company that Naruto heal any injury in that state, including the burns from the chakra. How would he know this unless he tried to detain Naruto with force?

 

[psukkar]

Do you really think that Jiraiya didn't realize that he couldn't hurt Naruto in that mode even if he wanted to? He was even able to tell Tsunade and company that Naruto heal any injury in that state, including the burns from the chakra. How would he know this unless he tried to detain Naruto with force?

??

simple dude.

naruto goes 4 tail mode, then he supress the chakra and then he looks at naruto's body and he would have noticed his skin was burned all off like we saw in part 2 aginast orocihmaru.

So jiraiya deduced for naruto to move while sustaining these kinds of injuries that the fox's chakra must be healing and kill naruto's skins cells at the same time. also placing a seal on naruto's forehead while on 4 tail fox mode and hruting naruto in the process would be nearly impossible. So ofc jiraiya would be get injured in the process trying to make the opening.

Whats more increible jiraiya surived such a atack with out healing jutsu or forbidden jutsu orocihmaru has. Also the flash back showed jiraiya not in sage mode when he was hurt so that could mean he did all that in his normal state.

Jiraiya is quite something isnt he..

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

??

simple dude.

naruto goes 4 tail mode, then he supress the chakra and then he looks at naruto's body and he would have noticed his skin was burned all off like we saw in part 2 aginast orocihmaru.

So jiraiya deduced for naruto to move while sustaining these kinds of injuries that the fox's chakra must be healing and kill naruto's skins cells at the same time.

All injuries man all injuries not just the burns. I just don't know how you think that Jiraiya could get mortally injured because he was going "easy" on Naruto. H probably didn't use SM but he definitely didn't toy with him. The fact his, Jiraiya was near death and Oro wasn't; even when he was weak because he had to switch bodies. Jiraiya is a beast, but with the things that Oro did to himself, Oro is the strongest.

 

[Tsunade Senju]

Not being a fan girl here, but you made this thread just to oppose an earlier thread stating 'ALL' Sannins are equal? That's so lame. We don't need another thread just to express how you love and how much you're into Jiraiya (Not to disrespect J-Man) while downplaying the other two Sannins.

I have said this before, Sannins are technically on equal footing with each other. Regardless of the field they excel in, their abilities compromise one another, that's why they survived all together during the battle against Hanzo. You have to understand that they are a team, and in a team, it is much better to have a diverse set of members than having a one dimensional ones.

Example, a team who has a healer + taijutsu specialist, a ninjutsu specialist + senju user (sage mode) and a kinjutsu + forbidden just user is way better than a team whose members are purely ninjutsu users. Get my point?

One (Jiraiya) may be superior on a certain aspect than their teammates (Oro & Tsunade) doesn't make him (Jiraiya) the strongest because there are other aspects that he (Jiraiya) might be inferior on (medical ninjutsu, taijutsu, kinjutsu, etc).

Bottomline: They are on equal strength basing on their respective field of mastery.


Nuff Said, KTNXBYE

 

[DarkerThenBlack]

Not being a fan girl here, but you made this thread just to oppose an earlier thread stating 'ALL' Sannins are equal? That's so lame. We don't need another thread just to express how you love and how much you're into Jiraiya (Not to disrespect J-Man) while downplaying the other two Sannins.

I have said this before, Sannins are technically on equal footing with each other. Regardless of the field they excel in, their abilities compromise one another, that's why they survived all together during the battle against Hanzo. You have to understand that they are a team, and in a team, it is much better to have a diverse set of members than having a one dimensional ones.

Example, a team who has a healer + taijutsu specialist, a ninjutsu specialist + senju user (sage mode) and a kinjutsu + forbidden just user is way better than a team whose members are purely ninjutsu users. Get my point?

One (Jiraiya) may be superior on a certain aspect than their teammates (Oro & Tsunade) doesn't make him (Jiraiya) the strongest because there are other aspects that he (Jiraiya) might be inferior on (medical ninjutsu, taijutsu, kinjutsu, etc).

Bottomline: They are on equal strength basing on their respective field of mastery.


Nuff Said, KTNXBYE

I agree with this a lot. +rep for sure. However I think the overall strongest charcter of the three was definitely orochimaru..hence he held off jiraiya and tsunade at the same time....with barely any techniques because he had no ninjutsu lol...People forget that half the show just as itachi was sick orochimaru was needing to change bodies and before that he had his arms all ****ed up haha.

 

[ZedLeppelin]

I remember seeing in the manga that their summon animals were based on roshenbo ( a kind of japanese rock, paper, sissors game) so: snake eats toad, toad eats slug, slug scares snake. I got to wonder if this would also apply with the sannin's power?

Oro>J-Man, J-Man>Tsunade, Tsunade>Oro ?!

 

[psukkar]

All injuries man all injuries not just the burns. I just don't know how you think that Jiraiya could get mortally injured because he was going "easy" on Naruto. H probably didn't use SM but he definitely didn't toy with him. The fact his, Jiraiya was near death and Oro wasn't; even when he was weak because he had to switch bodies. Jiraiya is a beast, but with the things that Oro did to himself, Oro is the strongest.

orocihmaru uses forbidden techs dude regarding his body, but that doesnt mean they dont use chakra.

Many other shinobi would also get mortally wounded trying to place a seal on naruto's forehead. Orocihmaru wouldnt even be able to do it, as he got shreeaed apart everytime he went anywhere naruto.

Ur looking too much at the body stuff, orocihmaru had a mutated body, doesnt meant hes stronger than jiraiya using such a example. Lets see this happen when jiraiya in sage mode, whats orocihmaru gonna do? Start using a sword on him? plz dude, jiraiya is like a battle tank.

 

[Inception]

A lot of posters (mainly Tsunade and Orochimaru fans) are under the delusion that the Sannin are equal in power, simple because of that title...Are you guys being serious? lol

Sannin title- It was given to them by a guy who beat the crap out of them (Hanzo) and they were much younger back then.

The Sannin title is nothing special these days...for example

Let's say Tobi beats the crap out of Kakashi and Gai...Tobi: I NOW NAME YOU SANNIN V2 FOR LASTING THIS LONG!

Get it? Lol.

On to the Sannin's abilities, going by feats, Jiraiya is the strongest, that's not even up for debate.

Yeah, Orochimaru has edo tensei and the most potential, but let's face facts, his feats are inferior to that of Jiraiya's, maybe he is Jiraiya's equal, but does he have the feats to back that up? No he doesn't. Before someone brings up holding his own against 4 tailed naruto let's not forget even kakashi and gai were holding their own against multiple v2 jins.

Tsunade- Tsunade fans like to ignore the fact that a part 1 Kabuto who is not skilled in taijutsu managed to tag and react to her without a lot of difficulties. Now maybe you guys get mad I'm not saying Tsunade is weaker than him lol no but she isn't fast by any means, at least compared to faster characters like Gai, Sasuke, Kakashi etc etc

Tsunade isn't slow, but she is certainly not fast enough. Her attacks are linear and easy to dodge if you have some decent speed, as evidenced by the manga. She is not very versatile and her fighting style is boring.

-get implaled
-smash smash smash
-heal

now, i'm not hating on Tsunade, she's a great ninja overall, she excels in other areas like healing, but when it comes to combat even the likes of Gai /Kakashi/Kakuzu/Kisame are far superior than her. She also has a lot of chakra and great healing abilities which is why she's lasted this long against Madara's clone who have been toying with them.


Last point, there is no such thing as "Sannin level" since the Sannin are not equal in overall power until proven otherwise.

What a pathetic argument.

Sannins are obviously not equal in power but they're all pretty strong and close to each others level. Jiraiya is the strongest but not too far from Orochimaru and Tsunade. Tsunade has shown to be the best healer-nin over and over again and Orochimaru just fell behind . Like it or not, the Kages would be long dead if Tsunade wasn't around. They cannot kill each other is what makes them interesting.

You're comparing Tsunade to Gai, Kakashi, Kakuzu, Kisame, Sasuke who are all front line fighters. Your argument is invalid as you simply can't compare those characters to Tsunade. Her job isn't to overpower her enemy but to heal her comrades. Even then, I would say she can go toe to toe with some of the characters you mentioned .

As for Hanzo, He let them live and gave them the title of Sannins because they were able to hold their own against him. Hanzo was a legendary ninja. He was easily considered one of the strongest ninjas of his time and this was during the 3rd Hokage's reign who was considered the God of Shinobi due to his abilities. Hanzo wasn't considered legendary just because of his skills, he was known for leading the Hidden Rain in the war vs. several LARGE villages and he was able to hold his ground. Please stop comparing characters when you have little to no idea about the past. Tobi cannot be compared to Hanzo.

And Kakashi is already famous. Why would he need another title? It is a bit surprising how they are able to withstand several tailed-beasts but Kishi wanted to show us that Kakashi and Gai are not pushovers.