The Sage of the Six Paths did not defeat the Juubi!

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There was no need to.....

The time in which Rikūdo lived, was the most brutal and war torn era of all time! Human strife was heavily abundant. For every human desire, there was conflict, wars for everything, every resource. You have all heard Jiraiya talking about it.


Rikūdo did not make himself the Juubi's jinchuuriki because the Juubi was wreaking havoc on the world! Mankind itself was intent upon destroying itself through these constant wars for one thing or another...........

That is what the Rikūdo sage wanted to stop.

By becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki, he acquired other worldly powers. Yes! One of those powers was the Rinnegan, which was the direct result of sealing the Juubi in himself!

By becoming Rikūdo sage from an ordinary person, he ended all the wars by making mankind respect and bow, to his power and will. Although this might not have been his ideal method, he had to do it, to put an end to the human suffering in his era. And hence, he was hailed as the saviour of the world.

The Juubi has no will or feelings of its own, no motives and especially no alterier motives. It was no threat to anyone. The Sage needed the Juubi's power to make mankind listen.



How can an ordinary person subdue and seal the Juubi?

Before he became the Rikūdo sage, I believe most NB theories were correct when they said, he was originally a member of the Uzumaki clan, who knew powerful sealing jutsu! That is how he was able to seal the Juubi in himself!



After all was said and done and the Sage had to choose his successor from his deathbed. He chose the one whose way would be through love, and not power!


This is because the Rikūdo sage himself had brought peace through his own power, by forcing mankind to listen! That was not the way to achieve true peace, for mankind would just start fighting again if there was no one to watch over them anymore!


So he had to choose his younger son, but the older who had readied himself to carry on his fathers will, would not stand for it. Which....as you all know started the curse of hatred.


The older wanted to keep the peace through power, as it already was. The Sage wanted to change that and bring true peace, because he believed that humans were capable of understanding each other.
 
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the sage defeated him theres already proof get over it
 

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Juubi = mindless killing machine with the power to do it. It didn't need a reason to be destroying everything.
 

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I read the whole thing and I agreed with everything except him not defeating the Juubi.
 

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He had the rinnegan before becoming the jinchuriki... lmao. Thats why the rinnegan is considered powerful. Because the myth is that the Sage used them to defeat the strongest tailed beast.
 

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He had the rinnegan before becoming the jinchuriki... lmao. Thats why the rinnegan is considered powerful. Because the myth is that the Sage used them to defeat the strongest tailed beast.

Where the F did you get your information?! Huh?! Show me!


You got it NOWHERE! That's because you assumed it!
 
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you don't really have any good grounds for these theories. These theories are just things you think happened, without any evidence.
 

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He had the rinnegan before becoming the jinchuriki... lmao. Thats why the rinnegan is considered powerful. Because the myth is that the Sage used them to defeat the strongest tailed beast.

Show me where it says Rikūdo already had Rinnegan.....

You people just assume things to oblige your own interest!

Did you ever wonder why every jinchuuriki acquires the same eye as their BIJUU? Probably not right? I thought so...




And this is frikking pathetic, everyone is talking about one useless topic after another...

I pour my heart out and this is the response I get...

Typical pathetic immature NB! This is why I wish this story had a better and older fan base!

"who is the strongest Kage?" >_>
 

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you don't really have any good grounds for these theories. These theories are just things you think happened, without any evidence.

So Jiraiya did not explain about Rikūdos era?
The Juubi doesn't have no feelings or ambitions?
Rikūdo did not seal the Juubi in himself?
Rikūdo did not stop all the wars and bring temporary peace?
Rikūdo did not have two sons who believed in two different things?
The curse of hatred didn't begin with his sons?

Wtf are you talking about man??!
 

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sorry bro but this hall theory is built on another WRONG theory (so6p is not an uzumaki), after reading/watching/playing every thing about the series, one thing is for sure the SO6P IS THE FOUNDER OF JUTSU, THE MASTER WHO TOUGHT PEOPLE THE NATURE OF CHAKRA so he is the beginning (THE ORIGIN) there was no such thing as the uzumaki shinobi clan who know's sealing jutsu before the so6p .... there was no such thing as shinobi before the SO6P

meaning :

- he already had the rinnegan (why would you even suggest that he took it from juubi ??)

- he started the hall show and his sons started the UCHIHA and SENJU
 
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Sorry, he did "defeat" it. I believe the Rikudo Sage is the great great great grandaddy of both Uzamaki and Uchiha clans. It sort of implies this with the whole "He bestowed his gift of 'life force' to one son [Senju/Uzimaki] & the the other son he bestowed his eye powers [Uchiha]" Then of coarse the Uchiha son got jealous of the other and they fought. Presumably to the death but I think I remember it stopping short of declaring which son won the battle. The story told in the manga says that the beast wreaked havoc on the land and that the people were saved from the Juubi's rampage when the SO6P sealed it. He then knew that upon his death it would be free again so he split up its chakra and created the tailed beasts we know and love. IF the Juubi wasn't a threat then why wld he feel the need to split up its chakra and then seal it by creating the moon? I mean seriously...In the Naruto Universe, one dude creates the frikkin MOON to be a prison for a beast that if ever revived, wld destroy the world!!!! Crazy talk I know, but thats what Kishimoto wrote. If I left something out please feel free to enlighten me....

*even tho I may sound sarcastic, Im just answering ur question to the best of my knowledge of what I read. These aren't my opinions, its what I read.
 
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My opinion based on what we've recently learned about the 9 tails, Kurama!!!!

The 9 tails has a flashback to when all the tailed beasts were little mini versions of themselves, circled around SO6P. Kurama was sad that he was going to die. The tailed beasts TRUSTED man at first but over the years were used for evil purposes and used to destroy. That is why Kurama began to hate mankind. Now he sees that Naruto has the same heart as the SO6P and has become his friend. He finally learned to trust again. He's not just working with Naruto because he doesnt like Madara, he's doing it because he likes Naruto who has given him hope :) Yes, we know that Naruto can have such gay themes but damn it's so entertaining!!!! Haha
 
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Its Manga chapter 462 pg 12 and 13 that explains the Senju and Uchiha were the two sons of the SO6P and in refreshing what I was sure I'd read before- The bond of hatred was born of the Rikudo Sage's decision to choose the younger [Senju] son, who believed in ruling with "love" [gayness] as the successor, and the older [Uchiha] son who thought the world should be ruled by "might".

chapter 572 deals with the 9 dif tailed beasts and their connection to SO6P & how they all believe that Naruto is the person that the Rikudo sage said would lead them on the right path. The wrong path being "destroying the world by becoming one with each other and re-forming the juubi"
 

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Sorry, he did "defeat" it. I believe the Rikudo Sage is the great great great grandaddy of both Uzamaki and Uchiha clans. It sort of implies this with the whole "He bestowed his gift of 'life force' to one son [Senju/Uzimaki] & the the other son he bestowed his eye powers [Uchiha]" Then of coarse the Uchiha son got jealous of the other and they fought. Presumably to the death but I think I remember it stopping short of declaring which son won the battle. The story told in the manga says that the beast wreaked havoc on the land and that the people were saved from the Juubi's rampage when the SO6P sealed it. He then knew that upon his death it would be free again so he split up its chakra and created the tailed beasts we know and love. IF the Juubi wasn't a threat then why wld he feel the need to split up its chakra and then seal it by creating the moon? I mean seriously...In the Naruto Universe, one dude creates the frikkin MOON to be a prison for a beast that if ever revived, wld destroy the world!!!! Crazy talk I know, but thats what Kishimoto wrote. If I left something out please feel free to enlighten me....

*even tho I may sound sarcastic, Im just answering ur question to the best of my knowledge of what I read. These aren't my opinions, its what I read.

Because people like Obito and Madara would end up controlling its power and that's exactly what happened!
 

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Its Manga chapter 462 pg 12 and 13 that explains the Senju and Uchiha were the two sons of the SO6P and in refreshing what I was sure I'd read before- The bond of hatred was born of the Rikudo Sage's decision to choose the younger [Senju] son, who believed in ruling with "love" [gayness] as the successor, and the older [Uchiha] son who thought the world should be ruled by "might".

chapter 572 deals with the 9 dif tailed beasts and their connection to SO6P & how they all believe that Naruto is the person that the Rikudo sage said would lead them on the right path. The wrong path being "destroying the world by becoming one with each other and re-forming the juubi"

And it also says Uzumaki and Senju are distant blood relatives. If one is a direct descendant through his son, then the other has to be through the father. Get it?

Why were uzumakis born with the perfect bodies and chakras to be hosts?
 
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sorry bro but this hall theory is built on another WRONG theory (so6p is not an uzumaki), after reading/watching/playing every thing about the series, one thing is for sure the SO6P IS THE FOUNDER OF JUTSU, THE MASTER WHO TOUGHT PEOPLE THE NATURE OF CHAKRA so he is the beginning (THE ORIGIN) there was no such thing as the uzumaki shinobi clan who know's sealing jutsu before the so6p .... there was no such thing as shinobi before the SO6P

meaning :

- he already had the rinnegan (why would you even suggest that he took it from juubi ??)

- he started the hall show and his sons started the UCHIHA and SENJU

That doesn't mean shit! Whos making it up now? Yeah he was the father of jutsu but that doesn't imply a damn thing you said.


Also....he frikking founded "Ninjutsu" not jutsu! He called it "Ninshu". Not senjutsu, not genjutsu and definitely not fuuinjutsu!

If he created jutsu after becoming the sage....how the F did he seal the Juubi in himself? With his mothers ass?
 
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That doesn't mean shit! Whos making it up now? Yeah he was the father of jutsu but that doesn't imply a damn thing you said.


Also....he frikking founded "Ninjutsu" not jutsu! He called it "Ninshu". Not senjutsu, not genjutsu and definitely not fuuinjutsu!

If he created jutsu after becoming the sage....how the F did he seal the Juubi in himself? With his mothers ass?

no he is the founder of jutsu witch means he knew it before he even encountered the juubi ..... sorry but this theory is pointless and based on nothing not a single valid thing .... he is the creator so there was no such thing as shinobi before him, he created his all jutsu even the sealing jutsu your mentioned (he didn't learn it from a clan if there was such a thing at his time)
 
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