The sage of six path may not be an uzumaki

Kiiszame

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dont think there was suck as thing as uzumaki or uchiha or senjus during the sages time. They all originated from him
 

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It is possible that he was an Uzumaki and he sealed the Juubi in himself, than he gained loads more power. He could have become what is called the Senju and the Uchiha in one person, due to being the Juubi's host. Than he split those powers up on his deathbed.
Edit: (at 9tailsJinchuuriki, I swapped your post with Zlad, so now its correct :) ).
I gave one explanation, although someone else might give a different one (if they dont believe the sage was an Uzumaki).

I totally agree with you cost all uzumaki clan are good with sealing technique.such like uzumaki mito,uzumaki kushina...........
 

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I hope he is an Uzumaki so I can lmao at the people 100% sure he is not.
 

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“Senju“ and “Uchiha”. Uzumaki isn't mentioned there and the manga haven't said how the Uzumaki are related to the senju

If the sage of 6 paths is an Uzumaki, that means that the uchia are also distant relatives. That would've been stated if it was so. The So6 wasn't a Uzumaki, he was the creator. Uzumaki are from the same son as the senju
 

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Byakugan and uchia is like Uzumaki and senju... Both groups are distant relatives of one another. I'm sure there's a post somewhere saying the So6 was a byakugan smh.
 

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dont think there was suck as thing as uzumaki or uchiha or senjus during the sages time. They all originated from him

The sage originated from a clan or a community unknown.i m even beginning to also think they should be another arc after this cause they's sooo much to explain by kishi
 

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Ok just to clarify some things that no one seems to be contesting:

- Not all Uzumakis in the manga have red hair, this is as stupid as it gets. The Name of the show is NARUTO who is blond of hair and is an Uzumaki! Nagato's father in the anime had his hair black, the mother had his hair red, so as in reality children get some traits from both parents rendering the hair colour as hint rather than a must as if the person is or is not from a certain clan.

- The So6P's clan or origin was not specified, but in no where is it stated that he had no place of birth or family. And as I think it would be a pretty important thing to tell if the sage was like a wonder who came into this world without a mother or father I tend to logically believe that he had parents. These parents as all humans ought to had parents of their own and so on. That defines a family which is a clan. Therefore the sage had a clan of birth, we simply do not know which was it. Most likely it no longer exists bu surely it did at a time. And the Uzumaki might just be it.

- The So6P was not the father of all shinobi, he was a priest that preached Ninjutso and taught it to all man kind, village by village, hence why there were so many different Ninja clans and villages at the time of Hashirama.

- The So6P did not create chakra, nor seals nor chakra manipulation and most likely he didn't creat Ninjutso either, he only preached it. The source of all of that was the Juubi. Most likely there were others at the time of the sage who practiced Ninjutso or other forms of chakra manipulation as well, i.e. the person who taught the So6P the basics as no one borns taught.

- On the same line of thought the only clans we can exclude from existing prior to the sage are the Senju and the Uchiha. The Uzumaki being related to Senju may or may not mean that they root from the same DNA pool. But it does not exclude that those roots might be more ancient than the Sage himself. I personally don't think this is the case but truth is I can't exclude that possibility based on the info the manga gives us, and so can't any of you.

Now as pure speculation, the Uzumaki clan was wiped out during the wars because people fear them. If some one would have found as Madara did the truth about the Senju and the Uchiha and the link between them and the Uzumaki, perhaps that link being that Uzumaki is the root of both clans then maybe that would explain why the clan was wiped out, so that a new Sage of Six Paths would not born naturally. This theory gains additionaly support by the choice of Madara to entrust his eyes to Nagato because he was an Uzumaki. If all Madara needed was an Uchiha or a Senju there were still some for the take back in Konoha, young ones that he could modulate, trick and educate towards becoming his servants and followers yet he chose an Uzumaki that could use all chakra affinities, something neither Madara nor Obito have shown to be capable of doing... Just some thoughts, mainly wild speculation but hey...

Tobi did turn out to be Obito, so anything is possible no matter how stupid it sounds!
 

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Ok just to clarify some things that no one seems to be contesting:

- Not all Uzumakis in the manga have red hair, this is as stupid as it gets. The Name of the show is NARUTO who is blond of hair and is an Uzumaki! Nagato's father in the anime had his hair black, the mother had his hair red, so as in reality children get some traits from both parents rendering the hair colour as hint rather than a must as if the person is or is not from a certain clan.

- The So6P's clan or origin was not specified, but in no where is it stated that he had no place of birth or family. And as I think it would be a pretty important thing to tell if the sage was like a wonder who came into this world without a mother or father I tend to logically believe that he had parents. These parents as all humans ought to had parents of their own and so on. That defines a family which is a clan. Therefore the sage had a clan of birth, we simply do not know which was it. Most likely it no longer exists bu surely it did at a time. And the Uzumaki might just be it.

- The So6P was not the father of all shinobi, he was a priest that preached Ninjutso and taught it to all man kind, village by village, hence why there were so many different Ninja clans and villages at the time of Hashirama.

- The So6P did not create chakra, nor seals nor chakra manipulation and most likely he didn't creat Ninjutso either, he only preached it. The source of all of that was the Juubi. Most likely there were others at the time of the sage who practiced Ninjutso or other forms of chakra manipulation as well, i.e. the person who taught the So6P the basics as no one borns taught.

- On the same line of thought the only clans we can exclude from existing prior to the sage are the Senju and the Uchiha. The Uzumaki being related to Senju may or may not mean that they root from the same DNA pool. But it does not exclude that those roots might be more ancient than the Sage himself. I personally don't think this is the case but truth is I can't exclude that possibility based on the info the manga gives us, and so can't any of you.

Now as pure speculation, the Uzumaki clan was wiped out during the wars because people fear them. If some one would have found as Madara did the truth about the Senju and the Uchiha and the link between them and the Uzumaki, perhaps that link being that Uzumaki is the root of both clans then maybe that would explain why the clan was wiped out, so that a new Sage of Six Paths would not born naturally. This theory gains additionaly support by the choice of Madara to entrust his eyes to Nagato because he was an Uzumaki. If all Madara needed was an Uchiha or a Senju there were still some for the take back in Konoha, young ones that he could modulate, trick and educate towards becoming his servants and followers yet he chose an Uzumaki that could use all chakra affinities, something neither Madara nor Obito have shown to be capable of doing... Just some thoughts, mainly wild speculation but hey...

Tobi did turn out to be Obito, so anything is possible no matter how stupid it sounds!

Your theory is also considerable
 

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The Juubi was the god. When the sage sealed the Juubi inside him, he became god.. Get it. That is what was stated in the manga. Do you really believe the sage came from the heavens? He was just the first to understand how ninjustu worked. When he sealed the juubi, he aquired god-like powers (likely the rinnegan) and thus created things with creation of all things. When he seperated the juubi from his body, he didn't lose his abilities and with creation of all things created the bijuus and the moon. Every god-like feat he pulled off was when he became the 10 tails jinchuuriki. It's the juubi's power that made him a god.

slow down, so in this theory of yours he separated the juubi from his body and still had the power huh (if your applying what you saw this far then how is that possible) ?? please .... i hate to debate about a theory that give more questions than answers, no offence but this is pointless, flawed and doesn't make sense at all, you just skipped the explanation to how can he separate him self from the juubi ...... read all of my previous posts carefully and when you answer ALL my points we can talk, this theory is a mess .....
 

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naruto has blonde hair and he is uzumaki
 

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What I think is that the so6p has yellow hair same as naruto's and the fourth hokage
 

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sage is an uzumaki.
even nagato didn't have red hair when he was out of chakra.
yes, chakra.
Can you tell me the biggest source of chakra? Juubi!!
What is moon made of ? Juuubi!
From what are those big 9 beast made of who have enormous chakra ? JUUBI!!!


How come sage was the first person to discover ninjutsu and chakra ? JUUBI~!!
How come nagato can use all 5 natures jsut at age of 10 ? RINNEGAN!
What is the source of rinnegan,sharingan ? Juuubi!


Also some more things,
Who are best people to contain bijjus ? UZUMAKI.
Who can survive bijju extraction ? UZUMAKI.
Which is the most powerful bijju ? JUUBI.
Why madara gave rinnegan to nagato ? PURE UZUMAKI.

So6p survived the Juubi extraction, splitted it into 9 bijjus, he contained the rinnegan too. He also had sealing weapons.


so6p is an uzumaki indeed. We read a black and white manga, and you say his hair is not red :lmao:

Almost every hint leads him to be a uzumaki and your best counter against this theory is that his hair isn't coloured red in the manga.
LOL!

anyway i countered your baseless theory in the starting already, Good fight.
 

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While some people are saying but it's been stated that he's the father of both the Senju's and Uchiha's you must of forgot that it's also been stated that the Uzumaki are distant Blood relatives meaning they are related in DNA somewhere...also I'm sure Kishi wouldn't make the main characters clan pointless there's obviously something special about the Uzumaki that hasn't been shown yet but then again they have no chance in a forum where most the fanboys are either Uchiha fanboys or Senju fanboys.
 

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Thinking about all of the connections between the uchiha senju uzumaki and sage, plus the rinnegan and the juubi, it really isnt that far fetched to think that the sage is an uzumaki.

-The sage (being an uzumaki) uses fuuinjutsu to seal the juubi into himself ( which is possible only because he is an uzumaki)

-Then, due to the juubis influence on him, gains the rinnegan (similar to bee using ink clones and narutos whiskers)

-Preaches ninshu to the world

-Has kids. one inherits his body and the other gets a watered down version of rinnegan

-Then near the end of his life splits the juubi and creates 9 tailed beasts

-names younger son his successor, thus beginning the curse of hatred
 

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Awesome another SO6P thread that is a compleate waste of time...
 

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Uzumaki's can also have white-grey hair later on in there life. The sage may have had white hair depending on his age, and also when he extracted the Jubii from his body. I don't really think he's an Uzumaki though. He could be who knows. Only time will tell.
 
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