The Rinne Rebirth vs Reanimation

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Ok This is still one of the Biggest questions i still have from the manga.

When Black zestu/Obito casted Rinne Rebirth on Madara. Madara Was not only brought back but brought back in his Youthful body With Hashi cells implanted.

When Brought back to life Madara's Eyes Revert to ash. That is because Madara's eyes still existed and were intact.

But Was Revived in The same body That was used for his Reanimation.

I Had Speculated that the body was a living comatose clone of Madara Or even Madara himself. Kabuto was not born When Madara Died. If Madara was The Sacrifice for his own edo tensei Summoning. Who Prepared it

Kabuto said Madara's Reanimation was Unique. If Kabuto prepared this it would have required a living clone of Madara.

I feel Orochimaru was the one to reconstruct Madara's body, If not At least Prepare the Reanimation with Madara. and was brought back to to its youthful state with Rinne Rebirth


Or This is Plot no jutsu at its finest. If Anyone has a better idea let me know

 

[Gagster]

Everything surrounding Madara is plot.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Everything surrounding Madara is plot.

Thats not my point even ridiculous things get explained this is just a plot hole Which likely would have been explained if the manga was not rushed

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

I have also been wondering about this. Madara lived till he was old. Yet he was brought back in his prime. Don't know how that worked. The whole thing screams Plot. I believe it was his real body. If the revived madara was just a clone body, clone would have real eyes, and his eyes would not have turned to dust.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

I have also been wondering about this. Madara lived till he was old. Yet he was brought back in his prime. Don't know how that worked. The whole thing screams Plot. I believe it was his real body. If the revived madara was just a clone body, clone would have real eyes, and his eyes would not have turned to dust.

It was Stated Madara knew the seals for edo tensei maybe he prepared it himself but at the same time i find that unlikely as Madara was shocked to discover he had been reanimated

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Yeah. Madara expected to come back. But not by edo tensei. If he lived till old age, how did he prepare a younger body of himself. I know kabuto worked on his body, but how did he get him back to being young? even without kabuto, madara expected to come back by rinne birth, meaning somehow obito's tech was supposed to bring him back young. Can the user of the tech just decide what age they wish to bring someone back in?

Also, It makes sense that his eyes would turn to dust and not his hashi implants. The implants were modifications done to the body before edo tensei, while the eyes were just as a result of edo tensei reconstructing his body.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Yeah. Madara expected to come back. But not by edo tensei. If he lived till old age, how did he prepare a younger body of himself. I know kabuto worked on his body, but how did he get him back to being young? even without kabuto, madara expected to come back by rinne birth, meaning somehow obito's tech was supposed to bring him back young. Can the user of the tech just decide what age they wish to bring someone back in?

Also, It makes sense that his eyes would turn to dust and not his hashi implants. The implants were modifications done to the body before edo tensei, while the eyes were just as a result of edo tensei reconstructing his body.

At the same time If Rinne Rebirth was meant to bring Back Madara Who to our knowledge had been long dead. Why couldn't it bring back jiraiya.

I'm not doubting Kabuto's Skills as a medical ninja but this seems advanced even for tsunade

 

[The Necromancer]

Kabuto took Madara's old body, and modified it to be youthful and in its prime when revived, and created a fake Rinnegan with the knowledge he had.

Because Madara's real eyes were not present on his corpse when Kabuto found it, they were not restored with life was given to Madara's body.

Long story short: Madara's body was revived with Rinne Rebirth, but his eyes never "died."

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Kabuto took Madara's old body, and modified it to be youthful and in its prime when revived, and created a fake Rinnegan with the knowledge he had.

Because Madara's real eyes were not present on his corpse when Kabuto found it, they were not restored with life was given to Madara's body.

Long story short: Madara's body was revived with Rinne Rebirth, but his eyes never "died."

Bringing the dead back to life to make the reanimation is the only flaw i see with that

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

At the same time If Rinne Rebirth was meant to bring Back Madara Who to our knowledge had been long dead. Why couldn't it bring back jiraiya.

I'm not doubting Kabuto's Skills as a medical ninja but this seems advanced even for tsunade

Yeah there is really no explanation to how it's possible.

Jiraiya? you mean by nagato? I'm assuming the amount of chakra needed depends on how long ago the person died. nagato said he just had enough to revive the people killed from his invasion. Jiraiya had died for maybe a week before the pein invasion. And even that killed him. I don't believe he had enough chakra to revive Jiraiya. Plus Jiraiya's body was at the bottom of some ocean. Even if he was revived, I would think the water would kill him.

 

[The Necromancer]

Bringing the dead back to life to make the reanimaton

Not exactly.

Think of Madara's body as clay. Kabuto added to it after Madara's death to make it youthful and add the Hashirama face. But the eyes were missing so he had to make fake ones from scratch, rather than the body which was mainly made of Madara's corpse already.

So when Rinne Rebirth was activated, Madara's body was given new life, but because his rinnegan at the time might as well have been plastic, they disintegrated back into ash.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Not exactly.

Think of Madara's body as clay. Kabuto added to it after Madara's death to make it youthful and add the Hashirama face. But the eyes were missing so he had to make fake ones from scratch, rather than the body which was mainly made of Madara's corpse already.

So when Rinne Rebirth was activated, Madara's body was given new life, but because his rinnegan at the time might as well have been plastic, they disintegrated back into ash.

I don't think he made eyes for madara's body, that was probably just an effect of edo tensei.

 

[The Necromancer]

I don't he made eyes for madara's body, that was probably just an effect of edo tensei.

Possibly. But regardless, the eyes created by Edo Tensei were not made of real components like Madara's body, which is why they disintegrated upon revival.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Not exactly.

Think of Madara's body as clay. Kabuto added to it after Madara's death to make it youthful and add the Hashirama face. But the eyes were missing so he had to make fake ones from scratch, rather than the body which was mainly made of Madara's corpse already.

So when Rinne Rebirth was activated, Madara's body was given new life, but because his rinnegan at the time might as well have been plastic, they disintegrated back into ash.

Possibly. But regardless, the eyes created by Edo Tensei were not made of real components like Madara's body, which is why they disintegrated upon revival.

This seems plausible i guess

 

[The Necromancer]

This seems plausible i guess

At the end of the day, everything I'm saying is bullshit, as this was never explained in the manga.

It's the same as Madara's eyeless Susano'o. All we can do is theorize about total plot holes and BS.