The Rennigan DOESNT require Senju DNA!!!

[Scooby Doo]

And izanagi needs both senju and uchiha dna, and i doubt that a jutsu like izanagi (which is a similar technique to the creation of all things used by the sage of 6 paths) needs both dna but rinnegan doesnt... But sooner or later kishi will explain it...

 

[Wechselgeld]

rennigan needs senju dna or more likely the life force in it to enhance the sharingan to rennigan

 

[Ngylle]

good point

 

[enditallsin]

Blaze im gonna prove you wrong right now, its page 9 of chapter 386 where itachi states that "the transplant for the EMS gave birth to a completely new doujutsu" hes only like he said telling you half of the story that he knows, when you said that doujutsu was the rinnegan its was obvious that you were correct but however, i don't think you were completely reading everything it said, because if you go back to that chapter and read that page over again itachi says after he tells sasuke "That the transplant gave birth to a completely new doujutsu(the rinnegan)"than he says that obviously this exchange could only be done between clansman" than after that he says(and this is the part you missed) "AND SIMPLY GAINING ANOTHER'S EYE'S DIDN'T EQUATE TO GAINING THIS POWER" hes talking about this new doujutsu aka the "rinnegan"basically what itachi is saying that only because you obtained the ems by adding another clansmans mangekyou sharingan(their eyes), that alone is not enough to acquire the "new doujutsu" which like you said is obviously the rinnegan, sooo.. what other stipulation can their be? of course its senju dna.

 

[darthvader5666]

Agreed and repped.

 

[Cascade]

I Agree with Blaze, A well supported arguement +rep!

 

[iSpeak]

Blaze im gonna prove you wrong right now, its page 9 of chapter 386 where itachi states that "the transplant for the EMS gave birth to a completely new doujutsu" hes only like he said telling you half of the story that he knows, when you said that doujutsu was the rinnegan its was obvious that you were correct but however, i don't think you were completely reading everything it said, because if you go back to that chapter and read that page over again itachi says after he tells sasuke "That the transplant gave birth to a completely new doujutsu(the rinnegan)"than he says that obviously this exchange could only be done between clansman" than after that he says(and this is the part you missed) "AND SIMPLY GAINING ANOTHER'S EYE'S DIDN'T EQUATE TO GAINING THIS POWER" hes talking about this new doujutsu aka the "rinnegan"basically what itachi is saying that only because you obtained the ems by adding another clansmans mangekyou sharingan(their eyes), that alone is not enough to acquire the "new doujutsu" which like you said is obviously the rinnegan, sooo.. what other stipulation can their be? of course its senju dna.

I think you misunderstood it. When it say's "But that was only half of the story, the transplant also gave birth to a completely new dojutsu" that was talking about the Rinnegan.
Then it say's "Obviously this exchange could only be done between clansmen". Thats is talking about the EMS
Then it says "And simply gaining another's eye's didn't equate to gaining this power". Which basically meant, you can't take a random persons eye and implant it hoping to unlock the EMS, you need to take the eye of someone from the Uchiha clan.

 

[Stark]

This was really good explaining, nice job

 

[Stark]

Oh and it's Rinnengan

 

[MriRoN]

No it doesn't but it requires the abilities of the Uchiha and Senju to unlock the Rennigan.

 

[marksonm]

after careful thoughts, I believe it does require Senju DNA... if u noticed from down d lineage of Uchiha, they always hv to collect things and make sacrifices to get stronger.

* Killing someone close to unlock MS
* Collecting sibling's eyes to unlock EMS

Therefore I am sure by extrapolating this chain of events, u can make hypothetical conclusion that they will need d other blood lineage DNA to acquire d rennigan on dat Uchiha demon statue... demons power requires sacrifices... 1st; normal dark sharingan, den u collect light frm sibling to climb higher on d statue, gaining 4 MS = 2 EMS and then 2 EMS plus Senju or Uzumaki dna = Rennigan simple maths

 

[enditallsin]

I think you misunderstood it. When it say's "But that was only half of the story, the transplant also gave birth to a completely new dojutsu" that was talking about the Rinnegan.
Then it say's "Obviously this exchange could only be done between clansmen". Thats is talking about the EMS
Then it says "And simply gaining another's eye's didn't equate to gaining this power". Which basically meant, you can't take a random persons eye and implant it hoping to unlock the EMS, you need to take the eye of someone from the Uchiha clan.

I checked it again and itachi was still talking about this "new doujutsu"which is obviously rinnegan.

 

[iSpeak]

I checked it again and itachi was still talking about this "new doujutsu"which is obviously rinnegan.

No, he was talking about the whole process of transplanting eyes, which is to gain the EMS. Which is why he says "Obviously this exchange could only be done between clansmen". He only mentioned that another Dojutsu would come after EMS, and went straight back to talking about implanting eyes for EMS.

 

[MrLukyso]

Ofcourse it doesn't require Senju DNA, how dumb can person be to think otherwise ? It is Uchihas Jutsu(Dojutsu) that only Madara Uchiha developed. And how ? He progressed BEYOND Sharingan, it was never STATED that he transplanted Hashirama DNA and got Rinnegan, he progressed BEYOND EMS and got RINNEGAN. That's the point, you don't need any ****ing Senju DNA..

 

[enditallsin]

No, he was talking about the whole process of transplanting eyes, which is to gain the EMS. Which is why he says "Obviously this exchange could only be done between clansmen". He only mentioned that another Dojutsu would come after EMS, and went straight back to talking about implanting eyes for EMS.

oh ok i see it now my bad i was wrong, i take back what i said maybe hes right.

 

[CrimsonH4ze]

amazing thread. i read and enjoyed every bit of your explanation. good job! +rep

 

[CrimsonH4ze]

EMS + Senju DNA = Rinnegan
Why is that so hard to understand?

Case in point: Madara gain access to the Rinnegan shortly after he gain Hashi's abilities from their fight.

nope. after the fight with hashi, and gaining his power, he gained mokuton. rinnegan was his own power that he developed shortly after

 

[-Logic-]

One thing that confuses me is that if the Rinnegan doesn't require Senju DNA, then what was Madara talking about in this panel?

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"He was able to revive me in this state." I think Madara is referring to the Senju DNA/Hashirama's face being implanted in him. What are your thoughts on this?​

 

[Cascade]

'this state' is reffering to Edo rather than Tobi/Nagato (debated) using the Outer path to revive him to an actual life

 

[Minato x]

I think the Senju DNA serves for providing more power to the user of the Rinnegan.

And yes, Nagato's Rinnegan was transplanted.

When Madara was revived by Kabuto, he said : It seemed that brat Nagato managed to grow.

Meaning he was waiting for Nagato to use RinneTensei with the Rinnegan Madara had given to him so he could revive Madara.