The reason why Sasuke lost to Naruto despite being born of Perfection.

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The uchiha were born with the eyes of the Sage which gives them the ability to unlock the most powerful eye technique.
The Senju were born with the power but our transmigrant members, The Strongest of the clans, always had to train and struggle their way to be the best.

The Reason Sasuke always lost is because he was given power. He was born with sharingan prowess, A large pool of chakra, capable of doing Fire style, and they also were physically strong. Sasuke was also given Cursed seal, which is derived from senju and gave him even more perfection and still almost lost to naruto during VotE1 fight and canceled with him during Vote2.

Granted he still had to train, but naruto had to train and fight off a demon trying to take over his body.

The moral of the story is you can be given a lot of things in life, but that person will never compare to the ones who worked harder for it and earned it.
 

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I thought he lost because he didn't want to die with Naruto and instead help create a better world.
 

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I thought he won because Kurama was helping him? I probably need to reread it.
 

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Stop it, Sasuke won most of their battles.

And both of their powers were given to them or achieved by the help of other people.. it's not only Sasuke!
 

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They are equal! Get over it. But one is stronger if he has killing intent.
 

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K. I think it's weird he was overshadowed by itachi tho. Itachi solos
 

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He ended Naruto's ninja career when they faught vote until as usual... Kyuubi/kurama saves the day...

Vote2 If Sasuke had automatic mastery of new powers like naruto GG naruto... I like naruto but I respect power more.

Itachi solos & Madara doesn't praise fodder(naruto) yet said Le Sauce had moves like jagger
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Interesting take on the history of Ashura and Indra and translating it to Naruto and Sasuke.
 

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Equal means equal. No matter how many times we debate this it'll never change.
 

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Really, the reason he lost was because Hagoromo was slightly unbalanced in which powers he gave out. To Naruto, he gave:
1: Enhanced Strength, Speed, and Reflexes to be able to react to Kaguya easily.
2: The power to control Sand, Fire, Water, Lava, Steam, Acid, Chomei Stuff, Ink and Kurama Stuff.
3: The power to generate and throw Nuclear Bombs on a whim
4: Flight with no apparent limit or drain to chakra
5: Omniscience, according to the databook.
6: The power to erase and negate all forms of Ninjutsu or Genjutsu
7: And of course, the ability to raise the f*cking dead. Because not OP enough.

And to sasuke he gave the power to teleport about 10 meters on a massive cooldown. Moral of that story, fights to prove who is stronger don't work when a magical space ghost has already arbitrarily decided that Naruto is stronger.
 

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Sasuke lost because his ideology was defeated. Sasuke couldn't remain resolved to sever his connection with Naruto after he truly listened to the meaning behind Naruto's friendship; it reminded Sasuke of feelings he had tried to run away from, and rekindled a tiny amount of hope. At his core, Sasuke wanted to believe in bonds, love, trust, and hope for the future. His life experiences nearly broke him, but the fact that Naruto never gave up on their friendship, even street Sasuke's final betrayal and their battle, convinced Sasuke that Naruto's resolve was the real deal.
 

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I see SB members still butthurt about his loss. Take away all borrowed powers and SM Naruto will stomp blind fodderuke.
 

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Really, the reason he lost was because Hagoromo was slightly unbalanced in which powers he gave out. To Naruto, he gave:
1: Enhanced Strength, Speed, and Reflexes to be able to react to Kaguya easily.
2: The power to control Sand, Fire, Water, Lava, Steam, Acid, Chomei Stuff, Ink and Kurama Stuff.
3: The power to generate and throw Nuclear Bombs on a whim
4: Flight with no apparent limit or drain to chakra
5: Omniscience, according to the databook.
6: The power to erase and negate all forms of Ninjutsu or Genjutsu
7: And of course, the ability to raise the f*cking dead. Because not OP enough.

And to sasuke he gave the power to teleport about 10 meters on a massive cooldown. Moral of that story, fights to prove who is stronger don't work when a magical space ghost has already arbitrarily decided that Naruto is stronger.
Ah yes! It's so unfair! I mean Naruto's abilities are so much superior to sasuke's god like eye that could only.
1. Control gravity that could deflect or pull most things
2. Have the ability to use all elements
3. Summon mechanical limbs & weaponry
4. An absorption ability that could absorb a nigh limitless amount of chakra
5. Genjutsu nine powerful beasts of chakra, effortlessly.
6. The ability to negate the most powerful genjutsu in the series
7. Summon immortal animals
8. Turn people into the core of Chibaku Tensei
9. Unexpectedly teleporting someone close by
10. Using the said beasts chakra into a super powerful construct
11. Ability to revive tons of people from the dead
12. The potential to be immortal
That's all nothing, right? Darn that kishimoto and his favoritism. :(
 

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Really, the reason he lost was because Hagoromo was slightly unbalanced in which powers he gave out. To Naruto, he gave:
1: Enhanced Strength, Speed, and Reflexes to be able to react to Kaguya easily.
2: The power to control Sand, Fire, Water, Lava, Steam, Acid, Chomei Stuff, Ink and Kurama Stuff.
3: The power to generate and throw Nuclear Bombs on a whim
4: Flight with no apparent limit or drain to chakra
5: Omniscience, according to the databook.
6: The power to erase and negate all forms of Ninjutsu or Genjutsu
7: And of course, the ability to raise the f*cking dead. Because not OP enough.

And to sasuke he gave the power to teleport about 10 meters on a massive cooldown. Moral of that story, fights to prove who is stronger don't work when a magical space ghost has already arbitrarily decided that Naruto is stronger.

Their powers are equal, it's just that the rinnegan takes a lot of time to be mastered unlike RSM
that's why Sasuke relied on the bijuus powers in the battle instead of the rinnegan to fill the gap.
 

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Really, the reason he lost was because Hagoromo was slightly unbalanced in which powers he gave out. To Naruto, he gave:
1: Enhanced Strength, Speed, and Reflexes to be able to react to Kaguya easily.
2: The power to control Sand, Fire, Water, Lava, Steam, Acid, Chomei Stuff, Ink and Kurama Stuff.
3: The power to generate and throw Nuclear Bombs on a whim
4: Flight with no apparent limit or drain to chakra
5: Omniscience, according to the databook.
6: The power to erase and negate all forms of Ninjutsu or Genjutsu
7: And of course, the ability to raise the f*cking dead. Because not OP enough.

And to sasuke he gave the power to teleport about 10 meters on a massive cooldown. Moral of that story, fights to prove who is stronger don't work when a magical space ghost has already arbitrarily decided that Naruto is stronger.
It actually is this. But Sasuke still is equal to him. Dat Sasuke :bdpf:
 

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Ah yes! It's so unfair! I mean Naruto's abilities are so much superior to sasuke's god like eye that could only.
1. Control gravity that could deflect or pull most things
2. Have the ability to use all elements
3. Summon mechanical limbs & weaponry

4. An absorption ability that could absorb a nigh limitless amount of chakra
5. Genjutsu nine powerful beasts of chakra, effortlessly.
6. The ability to negate the most powerful genjutsu in the series
7. Summon immortal animals
8. Turn people into the core of Chibaku Tensei
9. Unexpectedly teleporting someone close by
10. Using the said beasts chakra into a super powerful construct
11. Ability to revive tons of people from the dead
12. The potential to be immortal

That's all nothing, right? Darn that kishimoto and his favoritism. :(
The claims that are Underlines are downright false, as he never used or aluded to being able to use those powers. Fun Fact: The Six Paths of Pain's abilities were not a set that if you have one, you have them all.
The claims in Bold are things Sasuke is capable of without Hagoromo. He could always cast Genjutsu, and his ability to control the Bijuu's powers are a subset of that.

Beyond simply counting up the number of powers, you must recognise that Rikudo Sage Mode and all it's abilities were something that Naruto was capable of controlling instinctively without any practice or effort required, while Sasuke had to train with his Rinnegan and didn't get all the powers handed to him right at the start.
 

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The claims that are Underlines are downright false, as he never used or aluded to being able to use those powers. Fun Fact: The Six Paths of Pain's abilities were not a set that if you have one, you have them all.
The claims in Bold are things Sasuke is capable of without Hagoromo. He could always cast Genjutsu, and his ability to control the Bijuu's powers are a subset of that.

Beyond simply counting up the number of powers, you must recognise that Rikudo Sage Mode and all it's abilities were something that Naruto was capable of controlling instinctively without any practice or effort required, while Sasuke had to train with his Rinnegan and didn't get all the powers handed to him right at the start.
So sasuke doesn't have the six paths ability? The more you know.
I could counter your post but nah.
 

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So sasuke doesn't have the six paths ability? The more you know.
I could counter your post but nah.

No, i'm saying that "The Six Paths Ability" is a false description, certainly to claim that they are in any way a set. They are the powers used by Pain, they are not a pre-determined set of techniques that you can only have all or none of them. He has only demonstrated Chibaku Tensei and Chakra Absorbtion. That does not mean he has any of the others.

Oh, and if you aren't going to rebut me, don't post.
 

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No, i'm saying that "The Six Paths Ability" is a false description, certainly to claim that they are in any way a set. They are the powers used by Pain, they are not a pre-determined set of techniques that you can only have all or none of them. He has only demonstrated Chibaku Tensei and Chakra Absorbtion. That does not mean he has any of the others.

Oh, and if you aren't going to rebut me, don't post.
That makes no sense at all. Don't reply back then , pleb.
 

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That makes no sense at all. Don't reply back then , pleb.

Oh, but i felt like replying to you. And again. How does it not make sense that the ability to create small planetoids does not necessarily confer the ability to turn into a robot, or rip out people's souls?
 
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