the reason why Kishi pulled the "jins are immune" thing out of his ass

Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 8, 2013
Messages
5,773
Reaction score
397
because genjutsu especially MS genjutsu was way too OP and even someone as fodder as Izuna could have fodderized the title character negative diff let alone Itachi Madara etc
[sarcasm]thank you Kishi your way of solving problems was always awesome[/sarcasm]
 

paratise

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Feb 28, 2013
Messages
16,197
Reaction score
1,899
1st: Izuna was not a fodder.
2nd: People can release the genjutsu casted on them; and sharingan genjutsu can be countered with avoiding eye contact.
But i would prefer a Naruto who skilled how to evade a real deal genjutsu instead of shrugging out of it everytime effortlessly.
 

Itachi75

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Feb 11, 2013
Messages
3,281
Reaction score
325
it isn't an asspull, there are two different kinds fo chakra inside a Jin.
-
to break a genjutsu, you need another chakra to push the other chakra out.
-
so the moment genjutsu hits an individual it is immedinalty rejected by the tialed beasts power.
-
An asspull would sakura able to fight equally with naruto and sasuke, that is a asspull, something that is entirely impossible and beyond reason.
-
Jin's being immune to gnejutsu works because of what i mentioned above
 

Olyasama

Member
Joined
Aug 29, 2012
Messages
436
Reaction score
89
Because the manga is called "Naruto", not "Uchiha", that's it.
 

Kurama2012

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jan 8, 2012
Messages
4,736
Reaction score
205
it makes sense as it was stated that to brake genjutsu you have to get a partner to disrupt chakra so if your on good terms with your bijuu then they disrupt it for you. if anything kishi shoudnt have made certain genjutsu so powerful but he did so he has to come up with a counter
 

Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 8, 2013
Messages
5,773
Reaction score
397
it makes sense as it was stated that to brake genjutsu you have to get a partner to disrupt chakra so if your on good terms with your bijuu then they disrupt it for you. if anything kishi shoudnt have made certain genjutsu so powerful but he did so he has to come up with a counter

it isn't an asspull, there are two different kinds fo chakra inside a Jin.
-
to break a genjutsu, you need another chakra to push the other chakra out.
-
so the moment genjutsu hits an individual it is immedinalty rejected by the tialed beasts power.
-
An asspull would sakura able to fight equally with naruto and sasuke, that is a asspull, something that is entirely impossible and beyond reason.
-
Jin's being immune to gnejutsu works because of what i mentioned above

then why was he fodderized by a finger genjutsu?
it's so obvious that it's only because he's opponents are Uchihas

1st: Izuna was not a fodder.
2nd: People can release the genjutsu casted on them; and sharingan genjutsu can be countered with avoiding eye contact.
But i would prefer a Naruto who skilled how to evade a real deal genjutsu instead of shrugging out of it everytime effortlessly.
yeah
Naruto and skills shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence
 

Baka Sennin

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Oct 14, 2011
Messages
3,750
Reaction score
348
was tobirama a jinchuuriki? because last i saw he had killed izuna. hashirama killed madara as well, and kabuto owned itachi and kishi had to tailor make izanami to defeat kabuto, regardless of the facts that unlike it's counterpart izanagi needing senju dna, and how can it have been created to stop izanagi when the only person capable of izanagi should have been madara and tobi, only they from the uchiha had senju dna.

the question you should be asking is why kishi made ms genjutsu so overpowered, or why naruto somehow forgets to use clones against itachi every single time. or why people don't use mists or sandstorms vs the uchiha more often given how effectively it trolls the sharingan
 

Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 8, 2013
Messages
5,773
Reaction score
397
was tobirama a jinchuuriki? because last i saw he had killed izuna. hashirama killed madara as well, and kabuto owned itachi and kishi had to tailor make izanami to defeat kabuto, regardless of the facts that unlike it's counterpart izanagi needing senju dna, and how can it have been created to stop izanagi when the only person capable of izanagi should have been madara and tobi, only they from the uchiha had senju dna.

the question you should be asking is why kishi made ms genjutsu so overpowered, or why naruto somehow forgets to use clones against itachi every single time. or why people don't use mists or sandstorms vs the uchiha more often given how effectively it trolls the sharingan

Tobirama was a skilled Shinobi and Madara/Izuna didn't use genjutsu
that's all
 

Nous

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 6, 2013
Messages
2,814
Reaction score
447
1. Izuna is not fodder in any shape or form.
2. All you need to do to bypass genjutsu against a Sharingan (other than KA) is to avoid eye contact.
3. How Jinchuriki bypass genjutsu is completely justified and not an as*pull bye any means.
 

Olyasama

Member
Joined
Aug 29, 2012
Messages
436
Reaction score
89
was tobirama a jinchuuriki? because last i saw he had killed izuna. hashirama killed madara as well, and kabuto owned itachi and kishi had to tailor make izanami to defeat kabuto, regardless of the facts that unlike it's counterpart izanagi needing senju dna, and how can it have been created to stop izanagi when the only person capable of izanagi should have been madara and tobi, only they from the uchiha had senju dna.

the question you should be asking is why kishi made ms genjutsu so overpowered, or why naruto somehow forgets to use clones against itachi every single time. or why people don't use mists or sandstorms vs the uchiha more often given how effectively it trolls the sharingan

Jinchuuriki of which Bijuu? It's confirmed Kyuubi only has 3 hosts in his life.
 

November

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 6, 2012
Messages
6,598
Reaction score
854
Uchiha Genjutsu is a mind rape jutsu. it's usually used in 1 vs 1 battle.
but perfect jinnurikis have bijuus as their friends.
in simple way, one person can't rape 2 people at the same time.
 
Last edited:

BazzBee

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 11, 2013
Messages
14,587
Reaction score
1,222
You should create a manga U_U
 

Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 8, 2013
Messages
5,773
Reaction score
397
Uchiha Genjutsu is a mind rape jutsu. it's usually used in 1 vs 1 battle.
but perfect jinnurikis has a bijuu as their friend.
in simple way, one person can't rape 2 people at the same time.
yeah but narutards don't consider Kurama a living being just a tool of Naruto
 

slaton02

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 29, 2012
Messages
3,684
Reaction score
252
Izuna is not a fodder he was eqal to Madara but I see why you call him fodder.....:) because Tobirama beat him an that suggest Tobirama>MS Madara.

Kishi had explained ways to break genjutsu Jins breaking it is pretty much the same way as someone disrupting your chakra. MS gnjutsu is breakable without being a Jin or sharigan user.
 
Last edited:

Cosman

Banned
Elite
Joined
Feb 15, 2013
Messages
7,322
Reaction score
948
Fight against Itachi it was stated that to break out of genjutsu you need to either stop the flow of your chakra or have someone else surge theirs into yours.

Fight between Killer B and Sasuke we see that Killer B was unaffected because of his cooperation with his beast.

How is that an asspull? The foundation was set when we saw Itachi and then it was used practically by Killer B.
 
Top