The reason why Hiruzen received the title "God of Shinobi".

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since there are threads about hashirama vs hiruzen.

I thought i'd be nice enough to help you people understand whats going on.
We'd start from the very beginning all the way back to the first hokage.

There are many generations that has come and passed since the first hokage.
Hashirama built Konoha along with many other Senjus and Uchihas to inherit the "will of fire."

During the reign of the first hokage, his skills along with many other Senjus we're quite renowned and fear along side many other Uchiha clan members.

He had skills that we're quite unique, effective and fearsome.

As time passed, the first Hashiramas reign ended and Tobirama was elected to be the 2nd Hokage.
As time went on, the "god-like" skills of hashirama can only be heard as stories from elderly.

as time kept passing by, "chinese whispers" were passed on about hashiramas skills and abilities to the point that his skills were only regarded as fables and stories.

very much like the sage of the six paths, generations come and go to the point that people started doubting his skills and existence as there are no more eye witnesses to these great skills and abilities.


(Hiruzen part)

As time passed by, during Hiruzens reign..
He demonstrated great skills and abilities, he mastered all of the known techniques that konoha has to offer during his reign.

It was written in the data book that he was the "most loved" hokage in history due to his fatherly loved towards his people.
He was loved and feared at the same time due to his great skills and idealistic point of views.


At this point in time, Hashirama's Skills are just now fables and myths due to the generation gap.
However, during the time that they're alive they have witnessed someone with great skills, intellect and passion towards his people.

thus giving him the title "God of Shinobi".



As Shikamarus dad once said during the Ino-Shika-Cho formation to defeat one of the gold brothers.

"Legends are always being exaggerated. The time will come when one day, someone will surpass them."



So what do we know about Hashirama? not many aside from the fact that he defeated Madara and he has skills that can actually defeat Madara.


So, in conclusion.

Hiruzen received the title "God of Shinobi" because of the simple fact that Hashiramas skills were long forgotten and thought of as "fables".

Very much like the existence of the sage of the six paths, some believes in his existence, some doesn't.






I understand that majority of you are fan-boys, 12 - 15 year olds that lacks comprehension and would make a completely immature remark so gl!


p.s Please dont talk about Hashiramas skills or Hiruzens skills and abilities, if you start talking about their skills that just completely suggests that you lack comprehension for this thread.​
 

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This has to be a troll thread

edit-Yeah it definitely is, you contradicted yourself throughout your opening statement.
 
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yeah cause you know as soon as someone posts a wall of text with a name that sounds like mine... it's always a "troll thread".
 

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what did you say that wasn't already accounted for? Yes we know the 1st was strong, yes we know the 3rd was strong, yes we know about the will of fire. And how does bringing up ability make you lack comprehension? They were both chosen as the strongest shinobi of the leaf in their respective primes, and now people are basically saying if they were the same age competing for hokage, who would win? it's a completely valid question that deserves an answer, and you shouldn't be putting people down for it.
 

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I know there is some truth in there, but Hiruzen witnessed the 1st and 2nd with his own eyes.

I don't think he would have forgotten.

Also going to use Yamato as an example. Many people have been impressed with his wood style jutsus and many have also said "Isn't that the jutsu of the 1st hokage!!!!?"

and what does Yamato say? "Thanks, but it's nowhere near the level of Hashirama"

How would Yamato know this? Because many people in the village (elder people) witnessed with their own eyes Hashirama's powers, so they were able to say that.

It's true about the So6P being thought of as a legend, but that was approx. 900 years back, not the timefram between Hashi's death through current story timeframe.
 
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what did you say that wasn't already accounted for? Yes we know the 1st was strong, yes we know the 3rd was strong, yes we know about the will of fire. And how does bringing up ability make you lack comprehension? They were both chosen as the strongest shinobi of the leaf in their respective primes, and now people are basically saying if they were the same age competing for hokage, who would win? it's a completely valid question that deserves an answer, and you shouldn't be putting people down for it.

i love the fact that you're defensive about everything.

maybe because it hits close to home.
 
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I know there is some truth in there, but Hiruzen witnessed the 1st and 2nd with his own eyes.

I don't think he would have forgotten.

Also going to use Yamato as an example. Many people have been impressed with his wood style jutsus and many have also said "Isn't that the jutsu of the 1st hokage!!!!?"

and what does Yamato say? "Thanks, but it's nowhere near the level of Hashirama"

How would Yamato know this? Because many people in the village (elder people) witnessed with their own eyes Hashirama's powers, so they were able to say that.

It's true about the So6P being thought of as a legend, but that was approx. 900 years back, not the timefram between Hashi's death through current story timeframe.



well, considering that the first hokage was well renowned for his wood style, of course people would still relate anything of "wood style" to him.
but they don't know the full extent of his power.

everything else that they know were just stories from the elderly. so no one but hiruzens generation were able to see hashiramas skills and abilities.

onoki was actually surprised to see madaras skills even though he knew what madaras reputation was.
with that being said, the stories of the elderly and the "factual" records of madara and hashirama were now being seen as "fabled" because of that.

but then again, onoki wasnt from konoha.
 

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if he isnt GOD OF SHINOBI then who is Lord hiruzen Uchiha Inza
 

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He was the strongest shinobi at that time and seemed to have great powers. He defiantly isn't that title goes to Harashima and Madara.
 

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Pointless thread, SO6P died centuries ago, which is why, some don't believe in the stories about him, since they surpass the current generations by far.

Hashirama died approximately 60 years ago. Look in your so called databooks, if you doubt it. You make it sound, like he is a fairly tail. Well he isn't. Some of the shinobi, and people of Konoha, would have known Hashirama, I can think of 4 in particular, though only 2 still lives, the elders.

So this idiocy, trying to give a reason why, he is called God of shinobi, is just poor...
 

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People are just confused since there is an inconsistency within the series. Hiruzen beat the ressurected versions of the first and second. Orochimaru then beat Hiruzen. Sasuke beat Orochimaru and since the first beat Madara that would mean Sasuke>madara?

I am not suggesting this is true but it does make a point that when Hiruzen battled before he died. they most likely hadn't planed on bringing up the firsts imba powers later on. By then he was just made up to be a momentarely hinderence to the third who became brushed aside like fodder wich in turn makes things look stupid when you look back at it.
 
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