[Discussion] The Real Strenght of Kakashi's Kumai!!!

[deluxhollatme]

Ok, so I've read both Kakashi vs. Hiashi(which I gave to Hiashi HANDS DOWN!!!) and Kakashi vs. Ororchimaru(which I gave to Orochimaru HANDS DOWN AND THEN CHOPPED OFF!!!). While reading posts it became very appearant to me that everyone who's voted for Kakashi seems to believe that he can just Kumai at any moment to kill both opponents.

So for everyone who believes that Kakashi is capable of this I'd like to pose a challenge: SHOW ME ONE JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF KAKASHI USING KUMAI TO KILL ANYONE EVER!!! I DARE YOU!!! And just to make it easier for you I'll eliminate the obvious fails:

1) Kakashi vs. Diedara, when he was only able to remove Diedara's arm.
2) Kakashi vs. Pain, when he was able to warp a nail and a missle
3) Kakashi vs. Sasuke, when he was able to warp Susanoo's arrows

 

[blackbird31468]

it's kamui not kumai

 

[Gatsndshanks]

1. Against Deidara he was inexperienced and thus inaccurate.

2. He used his kamui to protect chouji against a NAIL. His accuracy has greatly improved by this time.

3. He used it for self-defence.

Knowing that we know he is capable of hitting a nail at great speed, it's logical he can hit a stationary head.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

This thread should be closed because it is so stupid.

 

[Qberto]

I believe Gatsndshanks spelled out the counter-argument quite eloquently.

 

[TotallyAlex]

The point isnt that he used the jutsu to kill people, its to show the speed and precision at which kakashi is able to use the jutsu.
If you look back at the deidara fight, it took him forever to use it and he was inaccurate, however now as we see in the pein fight, he has pinpoit accuracy, and against sasuke he was able to use it fast enough to warp susanoos arrow, if he is that accurate, and that quick with the jutsu, it becomes very lethal.
However i dont think that makes him strong enough to beat hiashi or oro.

 

[ganjababy]

Kakashi kumai is ok but its not that great! Like most sharingan techs speed is its weakness

 

[leafeater]

Ok, so I've read both Kakashi vs. Hiashi(which I gave to Hiashi HANDS DOWN!!!) and Kakashi vs. Ororchimaru(which I gave to Orochimaru HANDS DOWN AND THEN CHOPPED OFF!!!). While reading posts it became very appearant to me that everyone who's voted for Kakashi seems to believe that he can just Kumai at any moment to kill both opponents.

So for everyone who believes that Kakashi is capable of this I'd like to pose a challenge: SHOW ME ONE JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF KAKASHI USING KUMAI TO KILL ANYONE EVER!!! I DARE YOU!!! And just to make it easier for you I'll eliminate the obvious fails:

1) Kakashi vs. Diedara, when he was only able to remove Diedara's arm.
2) Kakashi vs. Pain, when he was able to warp a nail and a missle
3) Kakashi vs. Sasuke, when he was able to warp Susanoo's arrows

Just because he hasn't used Kamui for a kill doesn't mean he can't. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, which is what you're falsely claiming here. Thus, I don't need to show an example as your logic is flawed, sorry.

 

[xShinra Tensei]

I know about the strength of Kakashi's Kamui, but I'd like to hear about the strenght of Kakashi's new technique; Kumai you speak of...

 

[Nara Yako]

Don't we already know that Kakashi uses the ms only in extreme situations? Thats why he doesnt use kamui for offense. This is pointless

 

[sharingan warrior]

This thread should be closed because it is so stupid.

yup

 

[eddi3]

it's kamui not kumai

win

 

[MizuroHyuga]

yup

Exactly.

 

[ANBUCaptain]

okay lol first of all it's kamui like everyone has said but I just have to repeat it once more 'cause it's quite retarded shout some things in startpost of the thread and same time not get the mainpoint written right lol.
second u got pwned by Gatsndshanks and Leafeater..I would've said the exact same things.
And lastly, if Kakashi would use it against orochimaru and hiashi same as he did against Deidara, then THEY WOULD DIE FROM BLOOD LOSS..don't know what was up with Deidara he's whole body is weird and loss of arms didn't hurt him...but normally and thinking with common sense the logic is: loss of hand=major blood loss = pwnage the end.

 

[deluxhollatme]

I see I have angered a bunch of Kakashi fans who CANNOT GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF HIM KILLING ANYONE WITH KAMUI!!! But thanks for correcting me with the spelling of it

 

[ANBUCaptain]

I see I have angered a bunch of Kakashi fans who CANNOT GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF HIM KILLING ANYONE WITH KAMUI!!! But thanks for correcting me with the spelling of it

"Just because he hasn't used Kamui for a kill doesn't mean he can't. Absence of proof is not proof of absence, which is what you're falsely claiming here. Thus, I don't need to show an example as your logic is flawed, sorry."

Yeap u got pwned

 

[Wesobi]

1. Against Deidara he was inexperienced and thus inaccurate.

2. He used his kamui to protect chouji against a NAIL. His accuracy has greatly improved by this time.

3. He used it for self-defence.

Knowing that we know he is capable of hitting a nail at great speed, it's logical he can hit a stationary head.

Thank you for not having me let go through the trouble of replying this.