Well i feel that he is vastly underrated, so this thread is just to explain my view on the matter through and through to maybe enlighten people, but won't matter if you agree with me or not
1- Luffy vs Chinjao battle
Being completely unaffected by gear second Luffy(shocking Luffy)
Barely affected by gear second Luffy's armament enhanced Hawk Rifle
Landing several heavy blows on Luffy
Easily blocking Luffy's attacks
Matching Luffy's strength again and again
And in the end he was only defeated by Luffy's strongest one hit gear third attack to date(outside grizzly magnum maybe) Thor Elephant and that's even because he tried to overpower Luffy's attack. Who knows what would have happened if he simply dodged or did something else?
Anyway depending on how you rate difficulty, this at least shows that it was withing the mid-high difficulty range. I personally put it as a medium difficulty fight(in the higher end)
2- Chinjao/Luffy/Cavendish comparison
Cavendish clashing equally with Chinjao with the observers thinking they aren't human
And pay a note he held his entire body in the air with just one of his arm
Easily dodging Chinjao's attacks with great acrobatical skills, dodging a double-punch attack directed at him while he was in the air, as well as a barrage of headbutts aimed at him and Luffy, showing considerable speed and reflexes impressing Chinjao
And in the original translation, Cavendish actually says he was about to use stronger attacks to take down Chinjao. That makes me think that Cavendish is around Chinjao's level of strength
3- Cavendish/Hakuba power level
Cavendish was already considered a supernova 3 years prior with a bounty of 280millions despite being a non-devil fruit user is quite impressive to say the least. Remember that all the supernovas we've seen so far have a devil fruit outside Zoro and Killer and his bounty was already exceeding theirs and still exceeds post-timeskip Killer's(who has a 200millions bounty). And even for the devil fruit eaters, his bounty was exceeding everyone except Luffy's and Kid's. I think that says a lot about his worth considering we know for a fact the reason of his bounty is just for his strength(unlike Robin for example).
And now that supernova who lived in the new world during 3 years, so we have a 3years worth supernova of that level in the new world. That should automatically mean he should be considerably strong. Just look at how the Shabondy supernovas were portrayed to be. Even Urouge(who had the lowest bounty) accomplished great things against a Pacifista(something the entire strawhats crew 3 years prior struggled to beat).
Even a 1 years supernova like Bartolomeo despite his funny and fanboy character leading narutobase members including inside characters like Hack to underestimate him actually low diffed a vice-admiral(Maynard), a level above Rob Lucci's and that the strawhats used to fear 2years prior.
And now despite all this and being in the new world since 3years worth i see insanities on this forum like he isn't M3 level or Franky can beat him :eww:
Besides, Cavendish's skills with the swords are great enough to be acknowledged by a veteran vice-admiral from the war of the best(Bastille) calling him a genius of the sword
On the same page, Bastille says Hakuba is even better(but in the official translation, he says Hakuba is twice stronger). Even a top tier like Sabo was impressed by him. Hakuba is so strong that the rumours about his strength reached his ears and eventhen still said it's even more impressive than what rumours said by actually observing it personally
In terms of actual feat, he wiped out the 20 strongest fighters of his block as fast as a yonkou commander(Burgess) to the point an entire stadium including a one year supernova(who fodderized a vice-admiral) like Bartolomeo couldn't see anything
As a comparison, the followers were capable to follow Luffy just fine. This dude is faster than gear second Luffy
Bonus
Cavendish was put in similar light with Law/Luffy/Zoro on the coverpage from assault of Dressrosa
And for those who read the assault, if you didn't notice, Oda made sure Luffy and Cavendish were competing with each other in accomplishments/leadership. You really think Oda will make him this weak?
So in the end, we have
A- A 280millions supernova without devil fruit residing in the new world since 3 years of worth
B- Cavendish can match a veteran Chinjao who gave Luffy a mid-high diff fight and Hakuba is twice stronger than him
C- A Hakuba faster than gear second Luffy
D- A Cavendish portrayed in similar light with Luffy/Law/Zoro
Really those who underestimate Hakuba should stop fooling themselves. This guy is strong U_U
1- Luffy vs Chinjao battle
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Being completely unaffected by gear second Luffy(shocking Luffy)
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Landing several heavy blows on Luffy
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Easily blocking Luffy's attacks
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Matching Luffy's strength again and again
And in the end he was only defeated by Luffy's strongest one hit gear third attack to date(outside grizzly magnum maybe) Thor Elephant and that's even because he tried to overpower Luffy's attack. Who knows what would have happened if he simply dodged or did something else?
Anyway depending on how you rate difficulty, this at least shows that it was withing the mid-high difficulty range. I personally put it as a medium difficulty fight(in the higher end)
2- Chinjao/Luffy/Cavendish comparison
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Cavendish clashing equally with Chinjao with the observers thinking they aren't human
And pay a note he held his entire body in the air with just one of his arm
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Easily dodging Chinjao's attacks with great acrobatical skills, dodging a double-punch attack directed at him while he was in the air, as well as a barrage of headbutts aimed at him and Luffy, showing considerable speed and reflexes impressing Chinjao
And in the original translation, Cavendish actually says he was about to use stronger attacks to take down Chinjao. That makes me think that Cavendish is around Chinjao's level of strength
3- Cavendish/Hakuba power level
Cavendish was already considered a supernova 3 years prior with a bounty of 280millions despite being a non-devil fruit user is quite impressive to say the least. Remember that all the supernovas we've seen so far have a devil fruit outside Zoro and Killer and his bounty was already exceeding theirs and still exceeds post-timeskip Killer's(who has a 200millions bounty). And even for the devil fruit eaters, his bounty was exceeding everyone except Luffy's and Kid's. I think that says a lot about his worth considering we know for a fact the reason of his bounty is just for his strength(unlike Robin for example).
And now that supernova who lived in the new world during 3 years, so we have a 3years worth supernova of that level in the new world. That should automatically mean he should be considerably strong. Just look at how the Shabondy supernovas were portrayed to be. Even Urouge(who had the lowest bounty) accomplished great things against a Pacifista(something the entire strawhats crew 3 years prior struggled to beat).
Even a 1 years supernova like Bartolomeo despite his funny and fanboy character leading narutobase members including inside characters like Hack to underestimate him actually low diffed a vice-admiral(Maynard), a level above Rob Lucci's and that the strawhats used to fear 2years prior.
And now despite all this and being in the new world since 3years worth i see insanities on this forum like he isn't M3 level or Franky can beat him :eww:
Besides, Cavendish's skills with the swords are great enough to be acknowledged by a veteran vice-admiral from the war of the best(Bastille) calling him a genius of the sword
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On the same page, Bastille says Hakuba is even better(but in the official translation, he says Hakuba is twice stronger). Even a top tier like Sabo was impressed by him. Hakuba is so strong that the rumours about his strength reached his ears and eventhen still said it's even more impressive than what rumours said by actually observing it personally
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In terms of actual feat, he wiped out the 20 strongest fighters of his block as fast as a yonkou commander(Burgess) to the point an entire stadium including a one year supernova(who fodderized a vice-admiral) like Bartolomeo couldn't see anything
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As a comparison, the followers were capable to follow Luffy just fine. This dude is faster than gear second Luffy
Bonus
Cavendish was put in similar light with Law/Luffy/Zoro on the coverpage from assault of Dressrosa
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And for those who read the assault, if you didn't notice, Oda made sure Luffy and Cavendish were competing with each other in accomplishments/leadership. You really think Oda will make him this weak?
So in the end, we have
A- A 280millions supernova without devil fruit residing in the new world since 3 years of worth
B- Cavendish can match a veteran Chinjao who gave Luffy a mid-high diff fight and Hakuba is twice stronger than him
C- A Hakuba faster than gear second Luffy
D- A Cavendish portrayed in similar light with Luffy/Law/Zoro
Really those who underestimate Hakuba should stop fooling themselves. This guy is strong U_U
