the problem with crossover battles on Narutobase

[Itachi75]

the main thing that comes to mind whenever a crossover battle is brougtht up is immediantly all logic is thrown out of the window 99% of the time and replaced with fanboyism and wanking.
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People are so attached to their favorite characters that they will never decide to let go and think, "hey maybe the other character has a chance"
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There are so very few people here "USSJ trunks, sasukexxx, P3in, 7thgreatestopfan, and a few others" that actually will take the time and think for a moment before anaylzing the fight through an unbiased mindset.
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Facts are from manga/anime feats, not hype, for example in one piece, Sengoku stated whitebeard could planet bust, or in the cartoon Johnny test, Repto slicer could universe bust. many fanboys will take these statements and go, "holy shit that means repto slicer is a universe buster!"
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So when doing a crossover battle use feats like Kid buu blowing up the earth and then him passing out due to the effort, not saying, "holy shit he is a galaxy buster!!!" with no feats and the manga contradicting that statement.
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Also anime can be very different from manga. Kid buu in the anime busted several planets before passing out, but in the manga he just busted the earth and then passed out. the anime showed kid buu thousands of times stronger then he originally was in the manga. So be sure to clarify whihc character you want to use like. "manga kid" or "anime Kid buu" because they are really different in terms of power.
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There is much more i can go on and rant about, but i am to tired and have a few essays for college to do, so bye everyone :ilu:

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

The people you listed are just a bunch of OBD phaggots.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

The people you listed are just a bunch of OBD phaggots.

Get of angry, you total, utter, dbz, fan****, LMAO!

 

[ayesha161]

The people you listed are just a bunch of OBD phaggots.

Bravo. Plus rep

You're spot on dude.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Get of angry, you total, utter, dbz, fan****, LMAO!

From this scan we can calc that the poster is indeed a faggot.

 

[ayesha161]

Get of angry, you total, utter, dbz, fan****, LMAO!

You're corrupted by the OBD. Believe it! :bouncy:

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

No one in DBZ ever busted a galaxy, Boo and Broli were attacking it over a period of time. Goku stated the blast was able to destroy the Earth 10 times, and it was his strongest shown attack. Cell said he could bust the solar system, but why didn't earth's environment obliterate from such an attack clashing on with one just as powerful? Why did gohan's Father Son Kamehameha go into the same Solar System and didn't bust shit? Hyperboles are in manga all the time. Kaioken x4 Kamehameha was a supposed planet busting attack, seeing as it came over Galick Gun, yet vegeta took it in the back and continued to fight, no this wasn't due to armor either, much weaker attacks have broken it, Vegeta destroyed Cui's and punched out Zarbons, a simple death beam pierced enough to go through vegeta's heart.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

From this scan we can calc that the poster is indeed a faggot.

You're corrupted by the OBD. Believe it! :bouncy:

Keep baww'ing, weeping fancunts, LMAO! Not going, to utterly waste, any, more of a my, time, mercilessly conquering, you turbo-nerds, nuff said, endof.

 

[Wolfus]

No one in DBZ ever busted a galaxy, Boo and Broli were attacking it over a period of time. Goku stated the blast was able to destroy the Earth 10 times, and it was his strongest shown attack. Cell said he could bust the solar system, but why didn't earth's environment obliterate from such an attack clashing on with one just as powerful? Why did gohan's Father Son Kamehameha go into the same Solar System and didn't bust shit? Hyperboles are in manga all the time. Kaioken x4 Kamehameha was a supposed planet busting attack, seeing as it came over Galick Gun, yet vegeta took it in the back and continued to fight, no this wasn't due to armor either, much weaker attacks have broken it, Vegeta destroyed Cui's and punched out Zarbons, a simple death beam pierced enough to go through vegeta's heart.

This is mostly because of dbz's inconsistence. And there are many. The fact that for exemple, considering goku's speed, he should've been able to pic the others(gohan, trunks, goten and piccolo) before earth could blow, unless the atack itself is even faster.

The kamehameha of gohan and cell, did you notice that when 2 massive destructive beams colide in dbz, nothing happens? Dbz if full of this inconsistences, that's why it's hard to analyse it. We can't take everything totally logic, otherwise everything would be nonsense.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Keep baww'ing, weeping fancunts, LMAO! Not going, to utterly waste, any, more of a my, time, mercilessly conquering, you turbo-nerds, nuff said, endof.

Lel. How sophisticated.

No one in DBZ ever busted a galaxy, Boo and Broli were attacking it over a period of time. Goku stated the blast was able to destroy the Earth 10 times, and it was his strongest shown attack. Cell said he could bust the solar system, but why didn't earth's environment obliterate from such an attack clashing on with one just as powerful? Why did gohan's Father Son Kamehameha go into the same Solar System and didn't bust shit? Hyperboles are in manga all the time. Kaioken x4 Kamehameha was a supposed planet busting attack, seeing as it came over Galick Gun, yet vegeta took it in the back and continued to fight, no this wasn't due to armor either, much weaker attacks have broken it, Vegeta destroyed Cui's and punched out Zarbons, a simple death beam pierced enough to go through vegeta's heart.

You can apply that flawed logic to Roshi's - or for that matter Piccolo's, Moon busting feat. Both quite clearly did it, yet the area around them was undesturbed.

The flaws of applying real life physics to a fictional manga is that they don't always add up, I think one of the first indications of this was when people began spitting fire out of their mouths.

 

[Wolfus]

Lel. How sophisticated.


You can apply that flawed logic to Roshi's - or for that matter Piccolo's, Moon busting feat. Both quite clearly did it, yet the area around them was undesturbed.

The flaws of applying real life physics to a fictional manga is that they don't always add up, I think one of the first indications of this was when people began spitting fire out of their mouths.

Exactly. We just have to consider the incosistences. Dbz foe exemple. If thost atacks are so powerful(they have so much energy), when they are preparing the atack, they should be issuing enough energy to create a gravitational field. Besides, if those energy beams are heat, wouldn't it kill all humans arround?
It's dbz logic. We can't apply some physics rules of real life. We just have to accept the incosistence as manga logic.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

With most fictions, it doesn't. How is someone who has only mach 7,000 going to blitz someone who is Mach 10,000? How do "planet busting attacks" collide with others and NOTHING HAPPENS?

How did roshi bust the moon when Piccolo did? Does Earth in the DBZ verse have multiple moons?

DBZ can be calculated as well as others, just hard due to the inconsistencies like surviving "planet busting attacks" but getting hurt by an island level ki wave the next.

Anyways, DBZ's god tier at the moment is Solar System level+, and even if we get a new series it's most likely not changing due to whis > all gods. And DBGT is star system level+ heading into multi-star system.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

the main thing that comes to mind whenever a crossover battle is brougtht up is immediantly all logic is thrown out of the window 99% of the time and replaced with fanboyism and wanking.
-
People are so attached to their favorite characters that they will never decide to let go and think, "hey maybe the other character has a chance"
-
There are so very few people here "USSJ trunks, sasukexxx, P3in, 7thgreatestopfan, and a few others" that actually will take the time and think for a moment before anaylzing the fight through an unbiased mindset.
-
Facts are from manga/anime feats, not hype, for example in one piece, Sengoku stated whitebeard could planet bust, or in the cartoon Johnny test, Repto slicer could universe bust. many fanboys will take these statements and go, "holy shit that means repto slicer is a universe buster!"
-
So when doing a crossover battle use feats like Kid buu blowing up the earth and then him passing out due to the effort, not saying, "holy shit he is a galaxy buster!!!" with no feats and the manga contradicting that statement.
-
Also anime can be very different from manga. Kid buu in the anime busted several planets before passing out, but in the manga he just busted the earth and then passed out. the anime showed kid buu thousands of times stronger then he originally was in the manga. So be sure to clarify whihc character you want to use like. "manga kid" or "anime Kid buu" because they are really different in terms of power.
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There is much more i can go on and rant about, but i am to tired and have a few essays for college to do, so bye everyone :ilu:

It really is true. Almost every vs forum is like that too. "I've never heard of so and so and because of that, the character I've heard of wins." sometimes they will even say the difficulty which I find funny since they don't even know who the other character is.


Also @ the bold. Really?





To the people who say OBD is dumb. At least they have a system in place they go by instead of ***gitory wanking of said character. It may not be perfect, but it is the best thing the vs forums have. Since I hear so many people complain about it, you try to come up with a better system then lol calcs and pixel scaling. You won't. Oh and I'm also not part of any vs forums so before you try to flame me and say I'm an OBD wanker, I use my own judgement from to determine who would win.

 

[Wolfus]

With most fictions, it doesn't. How is someone who has only mach 7,000 going to blitz someone who is Mach 10,000? How do "planet busting attacks" collide with others and NOTHING HAPPENS?

How did roshi bust the moon when Piccolo did? Does Earth in the DBZ verse have multiple moons?

DBZ can be calculated as well as others, just hard due to the inconsistencies like surviving "planet busting attacks" but getting hurt by an island level ki wave the next.

Anyways, DBZ's god tier at the moment is Solar System level+, and even if we get a new series it's most likely not changing due to whis > all gods. And DBGT is star system level+ heading into multi-star system.

Exactly, except for 2 things. First, whis>bills, not >all gods, this was never stated or hinted.
The second is that we might take whis' statement as a truth.
Remember when the supreme kais were talking to each other when bills woke up? One wondered: "Just how many stars will be destroyed this time?" This means that bills has destroyed stars before. Whis also said" when bills is upset, galaxies are destroyed", this means that it's likely that has happend before, that's why he used that verb time. So, bills might be a galaxy buster.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

With most fictions, it doesn't. How is someone who has only mach 7,000 going to blitz someone who is Mach 10,000? How do "planet busting attacks" collide with others and NOTHING HAPPENS?

How did roshi bust the moon when Piccolo did? Does Earth in the DBZ verse have multiple moons?

DBZ can be calculated as well as others, just hard due to the inconsistencies like surviving "planet busting attacks" but getting hurt by an island level ki wave the next.

Anyways, DBZ's god tier at the moment is Solar System level+, and even if we get a new series it's most likely not changing due to whis > all gods. And DBGT is star system level+ heading into multi-star system.

Rōshi destroyed it first, then it was brought back.

There's so much speculation. To me; high-tier DBZ characters are beyond Solar System level (Buu Saga.); it's my opinion that is actually backed by the inconsistent manga that DBZ is. And no it can't be calculated by our means at all.

I'm a believer in the power level logic that DBZ abbides by, it's absurd, but that's just the way that fictional world works, no one can refute that.

The whole world reacts in correlation to what Toriama deems necessary enough. I remember the entire world shook when a low tier Vegeta powered up, via power scaling the world should've blown up when thé most powerful fighters did so themselves, yet it didn't.

People tend to forget that a DBZ character is only as strong or as fast as the amount of Ki they put into an attack.

I'm a massive DBZ fan, I just don't force my philosophy down someone else's throat.

Exactly. We just have to consider the incosistences. Dbz foe exemple. If thost atacks are so powerful(they have so much energy), when they are preparing the atack, they should be issuing enough energy to create a gravitational field. Besides, if those energy beams are heat, wouldn't it kill all humans arround?
It's dbz logic. We can't apply some physics rules of real life. We just have to accept the incosistence as manga logic.

Indeed.

It really is true. Almost every vs forum is like that too. "I've never heard of so and so and because of that, the character I've heard of wins." sometimes they will even say the difficulty which I find funny since they don't even know who the other character is.


Also @ the bold. Really?





To the people who say OBD is dumb. At least they have a system in place they go by instead of ***gitory wanking of said character. It may not be perfect, but it is the best thing the vs forums have. Since I hear so many people complain about it, you try to come up with a better system then lol calcs and pixel scaling. You won't. Oh and I'm also not part of any vs forums so before you try to flame me and say I'm an OBD wanker, I use my own judgement from to determine who would win.

I can't stand the OBD. They try to mascurade as the gods of fictional Vs battles with their flawed calculations or biased arguments (I'm generalising.); who can't seem to comprehend the idea of someone else having their own opinion backed up by logic. I've lurked there, some of their arguments are laughable.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Exactly, except for 2 things. First, whis>bills, not >all gods, this was never stated or hinted.
The second is that we might take whis' statement as a truth.
Remember when the supreme kais were talking to each other when bills woke up? One wondered: "Just how many stars will be destroyed this time?" This means that bills has destroyed stars before. Whis also said" when bills is upset, galaxies are destroyed", this means that it's likely that has happend before, that's why he used that verb time. So, bills might be a galaxy buster.

The galaxy was apparently a mistran for multiple solar systems but it's likely due to his relation to the universe as it's god of destruction. Why would a galaxy dissappear out of no where?

Yeah, bills can destroy stars, star busting < Solar System Busting.

Whis is the strongest character in all of the verses.

 

[Naijakid]

Hashirama is a planet buster

 

[Fodder#4]

USSJ as a logical entity... This must be why I don't come to this section as often

 

[ayesha161]

Keep baww'ing, weeping fancunts, LMAO! Not going, to utterly waste, any, more of a my, time, mercilessly conquering, you turbo-nerds, nuff said, endof.

I just come to a conclusion that you're also a fraud. Another thread that someone posted about GOT and i found this post.

You know OBD is highly inaccurate calculations, right? Very highly inaccurate.

And now you're corrupted by the OBD even when you said that the site has inaccurate calculations before?

 

[P3ĮÑ]

The people you listed are just a bunch of OBD *******s.

LOL dude, ur actually being immature urslef by calling people names, and moreover I don't even use the OBD much, or even base my arguments from there, I only use it for calc's and feat determination, if u think u can make better calc's, then please help urself, If by powerscaling u think dbz is multi galaxy level, I can even accept that, it still gets lol raped by top 15s.

No one here is an OBD "phagot", there was no reason for u to use such an abusive word against people who you don't even know well. And just judge by calling us OBD *******s, that's funny.