The 3rd Hokage was not a Senju, Of the 3 Sannin only Tsunade was a Senju and Naruto is not a Senju all you tried to do is pice things together that are not the same at all base on wishful thinking.
When will people stop saying that Uchiha had the strongest chakra? Yes, actually they do, BUT it's different from having huge reserves of it, like the Senju. Sasuke was drained of chakra just from one Kirin. Naruto can spam Kagebunshin, like nobody else can. See the difference?
And yes, I know Naruto isn't Senju, but he is Uzumaki. Uzumaki are related to Senju. And with their stamina and long life span, they seem to be closer to So6p younger son, imo.
This is epic, thank you so much for putting so much time into this so we readers can have more information. ^.^
Best thread ever in this whole Forum. I've read everything and it was worth it, soon when we'll get a flashback of the Senju clan and Hashirama it will amaze alot of people and alot of what you said will be explained aswell, this will shut up some hardcore Uchiha fanboys who think Uchiha's are the strongest of all...
My theory is that orochimaru knew about the evolution of the sharingan and that eventually after progressing through MS EMS it would reach the rinnegan.
now ororchimaru wanted 2 tings to learn and master every jutsu in the world and learn the secret to immortality
now just having the sahringan wont let you learn every justu because Orochimaru doesn't have all 5 chackra natures.
He knew the sharingan would eventually became the rinegan which in turn would give him access to all 5 chakcra natures + ying and yang chackra which in turn would allow him to learn and master every jutsu in the world and thus discover the secret to true immortality instead of swapping body's.
He needed and actual uchia body that can use the sharingan with no real cost as opposed to kakashi who looses great amounts of chackra using the sharingan as he isnt and uchia .
this is just speculation of course, but I don't think the rinnegan is simply the next evolution after the ems. I think you need both the senju and Uchiha chakra in order to develop the rinnegan. Both Tobi and Madara in some way have both chakras. Tobi told Pain that he gave him the rinnegan. This leads me to believe Tobi had something to do with his lineage. We know that Pain was a descendent of the Uzumaki (blood relatives of the Senju). Let's say for example this was on his maternal side. What if Tobi had something to do paternal side. That way when he says I gave you the rinnegan he meant it was passed down. this thread also makes some points to Orochimaru being a Senju. This makes his search specifically for a Uchiha body make a lot more sense. It was just the next step to being the perfect being. Maybe Kabuto knows this and this is why he wants Sasuke just the same. also people talk of the first Hokage's tree-based jutsus and life-giving abilities. Trees are some of the longest living things on earth and maybe there's some correlation there. This thread was a great read by the way. Excellent work
very good job. i agree, hiruzen's shown capabilities were just scratching the surface of what he could actually do in his prime, imagine him with much better speed, strength, and stamina, and able to use much more kagebunshin and powerful techniques. i imagine him like an overpowered jiraiya.
Thanks for the support guys. I found more evidence in recent chapter to clarify and support this theory even more I won't get to it today but whenever I have a chance.
Why were the Senju Clan so strong? What abilities did they posses?
I will show you how inheriting the Sage's life force, physical energy and body influenced the abilities of the Senju clan and provide evidence to why the Sannin, Third Hokage, and Naruto are so strong. I will also provide evidence on what Orochimaru said was true and about the Third Hokage in his prime might have been thee strongest Hokage but lost all his powers due to old age.
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As you know the Senju are descandants of the Sage's younger heir. The heir was gifted with the sage's Body, Life force and physical energy which the Senju inherited.
In naruto, physical stamina is converted into chakra.
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Also physical stamina helps regulate chakra
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The way to pull off techniques in Naruto is that you first have to have the amount of physical stamina and spiritual energy to build up enough chakra to perform the technique:
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So what exactly is the's sage's chakra, life force and physical energy and how does it play a role in performing jutsu?
The senju clan were gifted with rikudou sennins life force, physical energy and body.
So now we know that the Senju had enhanced physical stamina and physical energy but how exactly is it enhanced?
There is a direct correlation between the Senju Clan and Naruto's Sage and Kyubbi Controlled Mode.
The Rikuduo Sennin or Sage of Six paths power and energy were in fact Nature related. Whether its a result of having the Juubi or he always possesed such energies is a mystery. However there is evidence that the Nine tails and quite possibly all the tailed beast have the ability to give off this nature power or Sage like energy.
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Naruto's purified fox form reacts to Yamato's trees.
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Naruto's purified fox form gives off nature like energy or simply life energy which we can safely assume is the rikodou' sennin's life energy.
One man inherited his life giving abilities. You may know him as the one who defeated Madara Uchiha or built the hidden village of the leaf. Ladies and Gentleman the
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The first Hokage uses water and earth in combination with his life giving abilities to create a justu known as the "Birth of Trees". The difference between Yammato and the first Hokage is the first Hokage inherited a massive, massive chakra but also inherited the ability to produce life while Yamamto is only able to produce wood.
Yammato is an incomplete wood style user because he lacks the life energy abilties the first Hokage has. However THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET LIFE ENERGY NEXT TO YAMATOS WOOD
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"Amazing your filled with LIFE FORCE it's affecting my Mokuton.
The purified nine tail's chakra gives off life energy but we know that the nine - tails comes from the ten tails and we also know that the Rikudou sennin possesed the ten tails. Interesting. All we do know is that the Rikodou passed down his physical energies to the Senju.
Now that we have hypothetically determined that the Sage of six path's power is in fact similiar to Naruto's kyuubi mode, we can now continue with the EXPLANATION OF THE SENJUS ABILITIES.
As stated before the First Hokage inherited the Rikudo' Sennins life giving abilities, massive chakra and incredible physical energy because he inherited such abilities he was the strongest of his clan but do not be fooled; the rest of the Senju clan inherited Massive chakra, physical energy (the body) and physical stamina(the body) from the Sage of Six paths.
The Senju basically inherited "NATURE LIFE GIVING POWER" They are called Senjuclan of the forest for a reason.
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Nature
The definition:
the whole system of the existence, arrangement, forces, and events of all physical life that are not controlled by man.
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That actual chakra Naruto uses in SAGE MODE is called SENJUTSU
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"The power of nature in your hands."
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Now I believe Naruto'sSage mode, Senjustu, the Senju and The Sage of Six Paths are all related.
Senjutsu uses the power of nature itself. However earlier in this thread we have determined that the rikodou's sage chakra is nature/life giving based.
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So what does this have to do with anything? Well what did the rikodou passed down to the senju? That very same power.
The Senju were powered by a physical energy Naruto possesed in Sage Mode. but its "watered down."
As you know. Senjutsu takes the power of "natural energy" or "sage chakra" and converts it into chakra strengthening the user's techniques.
The Senju performed similiar very watered down feats without having to go into sage mode since they were born with a high physical stamina and boosted chakra capacity right off the bat thanks to their lineage. Remember when Danzo had his physical energy boosted by the first Hokage's DNA this was the result.
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One kick sent Karin flying..but the force behind that kick was incredible.
So allow me to illustrate this again:
Tsunade Senju
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To put it in perspective the Senju are water downed Sage Mode Narutos because they inherited the physical energy from the Sage of Six Paths they were able to use powerful ninjutsus and use forbidden techniques that were outside the realm of regular ninja with average chakra pools.
This is the result of their power:
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The only other ninja to match the 2nd is Kisame Hoshinginki the tailed beast without a tail.
Given the evidence we can determine the fighting Style of the Senju in the past
Techniques similiar to the Rasengan, Lightning Blade and kage Bunshins were spammed.
Naruto spams the Shadow clone and it seems unoriginal however it is very much original. Only a few Ninja could spam that many shadow clones. and those ninjas are the Uzamaki and Senju clan.
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Actually let me make this clear on how rare Naruto's ability is; being the last of his kind he is probably the only ninja to this date capable of his feats.
The Senju were chakra juggernauts and spammed the most powerful techniques and used forbidden techniques that other ninja could not use.
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You see what also made the Senju extremely powerful were the ability to use S class ninjutsu or kinjutsu with ease. Sage Mode, Triple rashmon gates, Summoning Manda, Oral rebirth, Hermit Mode, are all products that the massive chakra the sannin possesed NATURUALLY without some sort of assistance or articial enhancement. Ill go into detail on the Sannin but think about this panel
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"No..it's not that he didn't use it it's more like he can't use it..its different from before the saindaime's chakra levels..."
You can look at this panel 1 of 2 ways. The first way is the obvious. The Third Hokage is old and he's not in his prime to use the powerful ninjutsus he has in her arsenal. The 2 second way is a bit more sophisticated then that.
1) we know that the thid Hokage's chakra levels are much lower then what they use to be.
2) We know because they are low he can't use the high level techs he normally does had he been in his prime
THUS THE GOLDEN RULE OF NARUTO HAS BEEN STATED:
The more greater your chakra capacity is the more chakra demanding jutsus you can potentially use.
Meaning Shikamaru could never use Lightning Blade or Kirin because he doesn't have the high enough chakra level to even attempt the technique never mind having an affinity for lightning.
GETTING TO THE POINT:
This is evidence that ALL OTHER CLANS BESIDES THE UCHIHA WERE DISADVANTAGED fighting the Senju who were ninjutsu/taijutsu powerhouse tanks. The clans basically brought knives and bats to fight the senju who brought 50 calibur machine guns, M-16s and Sniper rifles. No contest.
Explaining the power and abilities the Third Hokage had
"You were called the Professor for knowing and being able to use all the jutsu in the leaf." Orochimaru
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"To think that I'd find Nyoibo To Be this Heavy." Hokage.
Let's analyze exactly what Orochimaru meant when he said " You were called the professor for knowing and being able to use all the jutsu in the leaf." The key word that in this line is ABLE. You see with old age the Third Hokage lost the ABILITY to use the most demanding techniques effectively and to use huge chakra demanding techniques completely.
"No..it's not that he didn't use it it's more like he can't use it..its different from before the saindaime's chakra levels..."
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Unfortunately because of this the Third Hokage knew he was outclassed by Orochimaru due to age. Orochimaru retained his youth and his massive chakra thanks to this:
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Try to understand why the Third Hokage was regarded as the strongest Hokage in his prime because of his ability to spam jutsu and use the most powerful chakra taxing jutsu in Konoha . Due to his old age the Third only retained a little bit of his former stamina On thee other hand Orochimaru retained his stamina and chakra using the soul swap technique.
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However can we safely determine that Third strongly inherited this will of fire or the strong body of the senju. Overwhelming evidence supports the notion that his battle style was a hybrid of Naruto's shadow clones, summonings, powerful seals, overwhelming taijutsu, powerful elemental jutsus and extreme intelligence.
What does this mean for Naruto then? Won't he get weak too? Nope. Uz..a..ma...ki... Being a distance cousin of the Senju naruto inherited the blood of the Sage more then anyone else we know of who is currently alive. Meaning he will have a longer life and stay in his prime longer.This explains why the Uzamaki clan were feared. Imagine just how powerful they had to be and what forbidden jutsus they used. Their sealing techniques were most likely broken.
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The Uzumaki clan were exterminated and the Senju's blood thinned. However, a few individuals inherited that inhuman stamina and were chakra juggernauts strongly Introducing...
The Sannin
The Sannin were powerful but few understand just how and why they were so powerful. The Sannin inherited the blood of the Senju and body of the sage.It has already been confirmed that Tsunade is the granddaughter of the first Hokage but she is on equal term or perhaps weaker then her other two siblings. All three ninja had powerful large summons. Gamabuta, Manda, and Katsuya.
Gamabatu required naruto to access the nine - tail fox's chakra in order to be summoned.
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People like Jiraiya, and the 4th Hokage did this without any assistance.
So what makes the Sannin so powerful and sets them apart from most of the ninja world???? I will tell you again. The ability to spam powerful ninjutsus with their massive chakra capacity and use forbidden techniques.
Ironically the Sannin of Konoha aren't particurally gifted in the art of genjutsu.
Orochimaru was beaten by it twice. Jiraiya admitted it in his fight against pain he sucked at it and we have yet to see a genjutsu feat done by Tsunade at all. Instead they all have some powerful physical ability. Tsunade Senju has her youth trick, super strength, regeneration, and medical abilties.
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Jiraiya has his Hermit mode. Orochimaru has his regeneration, and near immortality.
Since their physical energy is boosted they have massive chakra reserves. Where as in the Uchiha they have powerful spiritual energy which allows them to wield the sharingan without fatigue and they excel in the art of mastering ninjutsu and are tactical genuises.
What I believe Orochimaru artficially enhanced about himself was the abiltity to take other people's bodies and regenerate. However Orochimaru had a very powerful life force and unbelievable stamina to begin with.
Even before Orochimaru did experimented on himself he was already regarded as a genuius Orochimaru is a stamina monster, a chakra beast and extremely intelligent this is why he was feared. In his fight against the Third their physical energy and power were displayed.
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His oral rebirth technique was chakra demanding. However during his fight with 4 tailed Naruto he was able to spam it. Like I said The Senju were spammers lol. You want to know just how demanding the oral rebirth technique is??? Sasuke with Orochimaru in CS2 could only do it once.
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"The replacement you used to dodge my amatersu was move straight from Orochimaru's reportoire. Although is extremely difficult to detect it consumes a massive amount of charka." Itachi
Here Orochimaru performs it on a number of occasions
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Even with sasuke in CS2 could not touch the massive chakra Orochimaru has.
The Oral rebirth is a powerful jutsu that Orochimaru spammed.
Again, this is what made the Senju dangerous. The ability to spam powerful jutsus and USE forbidden techs that other ninjas could not use thanks to their massive chakra, durable bodies and astonishing life force.
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Orochimaru's physical energy he inherited by being a descendant of the Senju clan is constantly getting "rejected" by his vessels. Since Orochimaru no longer has his original "vessel" to handle that massive chakra he is constantly getting rejected. Orochimaru's soul swap jutsu is nothing more then a parasite invading someone's body. Only that Parasite takes control over the body. This is why Orochimaru retains his extraordinary gifts but why the vessel can only take so much abuse.
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"You will die here and I will obtain an even younger more beautiful stronger body."
Key word stronger. Again, Orochimaru needs a vessel that can handle his massive chakra.
The life force of the Senju
Shodia's cells taking over Danzo.
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Orochimaru's cells taking over Sasuke.
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Does anything seem familiar to you?
Orochimaru's life energy is similiar to shodai's in that they sort of have life of there own. Kabuto had to gain the upperhand on Orochimaru's cells just as Danzo had to seal the 1st Hokage's cells. Orochimaru was either born with that life energy or he somehow transplated the 1st Hokage's cells within himself. However Orochimaru was always seen as inhuman.
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On thee other hand we know that Orochimaru was experimenting with the 1st Hokage's cells.
Kabuto refer's to Orochimaru's powers as powers and not abilities.
Similiar to how Danzou injected the first Hokage's cells in him Kabuto did the same with Orochimaru cells. As you know Kabuto took Orochimaru's justus as well as his regenerative powers when he injected Orochimaru's cells in him. However Kabuto also took Orochimaru's massive chakra capacity and seemingly increased it. Which shows in his power to summon Manda 2 a much larger and I'm assuming is a more chakra demanding technique.
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His power boost also shows in his edo tensei.
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What does this mean? It means Kabuto right now has 1 of the if not most biggest Chakra capacities. This also means he is able to use the most demanding jutsus which also means right now he may have the most powerful jutsus up his sleeve right now super edo tensei.
The real reason why orochimaru wanted Sasuke's body was for his chakra as well. He wanted the chakra of the Uchiha as well as the eyes. Orochimaru would be damn near unstoppable if he were to get a hold of Sasuke's body. Imagine a ninja with a massive chakra capacity, filled with the most powerful chakra, and gifted with the ability to learn powerful ninja techniques at an inhuman rate. Picture Sasuke with a chakra pool as big as Orochimaru's, regeneration and forbidden techs . You will get a ninja with ability to spam a bunch of lighting blades, earth walls, suiton water guns, Super Genjustus, immunity to genjutsus, edo tensei like jutsus, and summons like manda.
You can't? Orochimaru can and so does this guy
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This could also mean Sasuke's chakra could be more potent then Itachi's even though Itachi is smarter then Sasuke which is why orochimaru said sasuke has eye's that may surpass Itachi. If Orochimaru where to take Sasuke's eyes without his chakra he would be worse off then Kakashi with Obito's 1 eye.
How do I put this, You made some valid points but you did a lot of reaching with this whold Senju thing. It's called Senjutsu because its Senin mode. Yes the senju and Uzumaki where are related but they made a stronger attempt to decimate and separate the Uzumaki clan and notice no Senju have been the vessel for the nine tails. Yes it is possible due to the village that a lot of people are descendents of the Senju but there is only one Senju who is highly revired and that's Hashirama. Also a requirement to be able to become a sage was to have a high chakra reserve. Also Oro never completed the Sage mode thus stated by Kabuto. So you should go back and check all your points in depth but you had me until you were just so obsessed with the whole Senju thing like Madara is and again it's only Hashirama chakra that is talked about so much he was special out of the clan. Also Yamato can produce a jutsu on the same scale as the first but he does produce trees and not just wood look at Naruto's wind training, there were trees he's produced throughout the manga
I can't edit it for some reason. I do too much talking I should have let the manga do more talking for me. I also found more evidence in recent chapters to support my theory such as Jiraiya talking about the will of fire and what he inherited and Tsunade calling the will of fire rikudous will.
Why were the Senju Clan so strong? What abilities did they posses?
I will show you how inheriting the Sage's life force, physical energy and body influenced the abilities of the Senju clan and provide evidence to why the Sannin, Third Hokage, and Naruto are so strong. I will also provide evidence on what Orochimaru said was true and about the Third Hokage in his prime might have been thee strongest Hokage but lost all his powers due to old age.
Disclaimer: It's partly theory but most of it is just clarification.[K/SIZE]
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As you know the Senju are descandants of the Sage's younger heir. The heir was gifted with the sage's Body, Life force and physical energy which the Senju inherited.
In naruto, physical stamina is converted into chakra.
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Also physical stamina helps regulate chakra
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The way to pull off techniques in Naruto is that you first have to have the amount of physical stamina and spiritual energy to build up enough chakra to perform the technique:
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So what exactly is the's sage's chakra, life force and physical energy and how does it play a role in performing jutsu?
The senju clan were gifted with rikudou sennins life force, physical energy and body.
So now we know that the Senju had enhanced physical stamina and physical energy but how exactly is it enhanced?
There is a direct correlation between the Senju Clan and Naruto's Sage and Kyubbi Controlled Mode.
The Rikuduo Sennin or Sage of Six paths power and energy were in fact Nature related. Whether its a result of having the Juubi or he always possesed such energies is a mystery. However there is evidence that the Nine tails and quite possibly all the tailed beast have the ability to give off this nature power or Sage like energy.
Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you:
Naruto's purified fox form reacts to Yamato's trees.
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Naruto's purified fox form gives off nature like energy or simply life energy which we can safely assume is the rikodou' sennin's life energy.
One man inherited his life giving abilities. You may know him as the one who defeated Madara Uchiha or built the hidden village of the leaf. Ladies and Gentleman the
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The first Hokage uses water and earth in combination with his life giving abilities to create a justu known as the "Birth of Trees". The difference between Yammato and the first Hokage is the first Hokage inherited a massive, massive chakra but also inherited the ability to produce life while Yamamto is only able to produce wood.
Yammato is an incomplete wood style user because he lacks the life energy abilties the first Hokage has. However THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET LIFE ENERGY NEXT TO YAMATOS WOOD
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"Amazing your filled with LIFE FORCE it's affecting my Mokuton.
The purified nine tail's chakra gives off life energy but we know that the nine - tails comes from the ten tails and we also know that the Rikudou sennin possesed the ten tails. Interesting. All we do know is that the Rikodou passed down his physical energies to the Senju.
Now that we have hypothetically determined that the Sage of six path's power is in fact similiar to Naruto's kyuubi mode, we can now continue with the EXPLANATION OF THE SENJUS ABILITIES.
As stated before the First Hokage inherited the Rikudo' Sennins life giving abilities, massive chakra and incredible physical energy because he inherited such abilities he was the strongest of his clan but do not be fooled; the rest of the Senju clan inherited Massive chakra, physical energy (the body) and physical stamina(the body) from the Sage of Six paths.
The Senju basically inherited "NATURE LIFE GIVING POWER" They are called Senjuclan of the forest for a reason.
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Nature
The definition:
the whole system of the existence, arrangement, forces, and events of all physical life that are not controlled by man.
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That actual chakra Naruto uses in SAGE MODE is called SENJUTSU
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"The power of nature in your hands."
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Now I believe Naruto'sSage mode, Senjustu, the Senju and The Sage of Six Paths are all related.
Senjutsu uses the power of nature itself. However earlier in this thread we have determined that the rikodou's sage chakra is nature/life giving based.
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So what does this have to do with anything? Well what did the rikodou passed down to the senju? That very same power.
The Senju were powered by a physical energy Naruto possesed in Sage Mode. but its "watered down."
As you know. Senjutsu takes the power of "natural energy" or "sage chakra" and converts it into chakra strengthening the user's techniques.
The Senju performed similiar very watered down feats without having to go into sage mode since they were born with a high physical stamina and boosted chakra capacity right off the bat thanks to their lineage. Remember when Danzo had his physical energy boosted by the first Hokage's DNA this was the result.
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One kick sent Karin flying..but the force behind that kick was incredible.
So allow me to illustrate this again:
Tsunade Senju
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To put it in perspective the Senju are water downed Sage Mode Narutos because they inherited the physical energy from the Sage of Six Paths they were able to use powerful ninjutsus and use forbidden techniques that were outside the realm of regular ninja with average chakra pools.
This is the result of their power:
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The only other ninja to match the 2nd is Kisame Hoshinginki the tailed beast without a tail.
Given the evidence we can determine the fighting Style of the Senju in the past
Techniques similiar to the Rasengan, Lightning Blade and kage Bunshins were spammed.
Naruto spams the Shadow clone and it seems unoriginal however it is very much original. Only a few Ninja could spam that many shadow clones. and those ninjas are the Uzamaki and Senju clan.
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Actually let me make this clear on how rare Naruto's ability is; being the last of his kind he is probably the only ninja to this date capable of his feats.
The Senju were chakra juggernauts and spammed the most powerful techniques and used forbidden techniques that other ninja could not use.
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You see what also made the Senju extremely powerful were the ability to use S class ninjutsu or kinjutsu with ease. Sage Mode, Triple rashmon gates, Summoning Manda, Oral rebirth, Hermit Mode, are all products that the massive chakra the sannin possesed NATURUALLY without some sort of assistance or articial enhancement. Ill go into detail on the Sannin but think about this panel
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"No..it's not that he didn't use it it's more like he can't use it..its different from before the saindaime's chakra levels..."
You can look at this panel 1 of 2 ways. The first way is the obvious. The Third Hokage is old and he's not in his prime to use the powerful ninjutsus he has in her arsenal. The 2 second way is a bit more sophisticated then that.
1) we know that the thid Hokage's chakra levels are much lower then what they use to be.
2) We know because they are low he can't use the high level techs he normally does had he been in his prime
THUS THE GOLDEN RULE OF NARUTO HAS BEEN STATED:
The more greater your chakra capacity is the more chakra demanding jutsus you can potentially use.
Meaning Shikamaru could never use Lightning Blade or Kirin because he doesn't have the high enough chakra level to even attempt the technique never mind having an affinity for lightning.
GETTING TO THE POINT:
This is evidence that ALL OTHER CLANS BESIDES THE UCHIHA WERE DISADVANTAGED fighting the Senju who were ninjutsu/taijutsu powerhouse tanks. The clans basically brought knives and bats to fight the senju who brought 50 calibur machine guns, M-16s and Sniper rifles. No contest.
Explaining the power and abilities the Third Hokage had
"You were called the Professor for knowing and being able to use all the jutsu in the leaf." Orochimaru
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"To think that I'd find Nyoibo To Be this Heavy." Hokage.
Let's analyze exactly what Orochimaru meant when he said " You were called the professor for knowing and being able to use all the jutsu in the leaf." The key word that in this line is ABLE. You see with old age the Third Hokage lost the ABILITY to use the most demanding techniques effectively and to use huge chakra demanding techniques completely.
"No..it's not that he didn't use it it's more like he can't use it..its different from before the saindaime's chakra levels..."
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Unfortunately because of this the Third Hokage knew he was outclassed by Orochimaru due to age. Orochimaru retained his youth and his massive chakra thanks to this:
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Try to understand why the Third Hokage was regarded as the strongest Hokage in his prime because of his ability to spam jutsu and use the most powerful chakra taxing jutsu in Konoha . Due to his old age the Third only retained a little bit of his former stamina On thee other hand Orochimaru retained his stamina and chakra using the soul swap technique.
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However can we safely determine that Third strongly inherited this will of fire or the strong body of the senju. Overwhelming evidence supports the notion that his battle style was a hybrid of Naruto's shadow clones, summonings, powerful seals, overwhelming taijutsu, powerful elemental jutsus and extreme intelligence.
What does this mean for Naruto then? Won't he get weak too? Nope. Uz..a..ma...ki... Being a distance cousin of the Senju naruto inherited the blood of the Sage more then anyone else we know of who is currently alive. Meaning he will have a longer life and stay in his prime longer.This explains why the Uzamaki clan were feared. Imagine just how powerful they had to be and what forbidden jutsus they used. Their sealing techniques were most likely broken.
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The Uzumaki clan were exterminated and the Senju's blood thinned. However, a few individuals inherited that inhuman stamina and were chakra juggernauts strongly Introducing...
The Sannin
The Sannin were powerful but few understand just how and why they were so powerful. The Sannin inherited the blood of the Senju and body of the sage.It has already been confirmed that Tsunade is the granddaughter of the first Hokage but she is on equal term or perhaps weaker then her other two siblings. All three ninja had powerful large summons. Gamabuta, Manda, and Katsuya.
Gamabatu required naruto to access the nine - tail fox's chakra in order to be summoned.
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People like Jiraiya, and the 4th Hokage did this without any assistance.
So what makes the Sannin so powerful and sets them apart from most of the ninja world???? I will tell you again. The ability to spam powerful ninjutsus with their massive chakra capacity and use forbidden techniques.
Ironically the Sannin of Konoha aren't particurally gifted in the art of genjutsu.
Orochimaru was beaten by it twice. Jiraiya admitted it in his fight against pain he sucked at it and we have yet to see a genjutsu feat done by Tsunade at all. Instead they all have some powerful physical ability. Tsunade Senju has her youth trick, super strength, regeneration, and medical abilties.
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Jiraiya has his Hermit mode. Orochimaru has his regeneration, and near immortality.
Since their physical energy is boosted they have massive chakra reserves. Where as in the Uchiha they have powerful spiritual energy which allows them to wield the sharingan without fatigue and they excel in the art of mastering ninjutsu and are tactical genuises.
What I believe Orochimaru artficially enhanced about himself was the abiltity to take other people's bodies and regenerate. However Orochimaru had a very powerful life force and unbelievable stamina to begin with.
Even before Orochimaru did experimented on himself he was already regarded as a genuius Orochimaru is a stamina monster, a chakra beast and extremely intelligent this is why he was feared. In his fight against the Third their physical energy and power were displayed.
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His oral rebirth technique was chakra demanding. However during his fight with 4 tailed Naruto he was able to spam it. Like I said The Senju were spammers lol. You want to know just how demanding the oral rebirth technique is??? Sasuke with Orochimaru in CS2 could only do it once.
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"The replacement you used to dodge my amatersu was move straight from Orochimaru's reportoire. Although is extremely difficult to detect it consumes a massive amount of charka." Itachi
Here Orochimaru performs it on a number of occasions
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Even with sasuke in CS2 could not touch the massive chakra Orochimaru has.
The Oral rebirth is a powerful jutsu that Orochimaru spammed.
Again, this is what made the Senju dangerous. The ability to spam powerful jutsus and USE forbidden techs that other ninjas could not use thanks to their massive chakra, durable bodies and astonishing life force.
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Orochimaru's physical energy he inherited by being a descendant of the Senju clan is constantly getting "rejected" by his vessels. Since Orochimaru no longer has his original "vessel" to handle that massive chakra he is constantly getting rejected. Orochimaru's soul swap jutsu is nothing more then a parasite invading someone's body. Only that Parasite takes control over the body. This is why Orochimaru retains his extraordinary gifts but why the vessel can only take so much abuse.
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"You will die here and I will obtain an even younger more beautiful stronger body."
Key word stronger. Again, Orochimaru needs a vessel that can handle his massive chakra.
The life force of the Senju
Shodia's cells taking over Danzo.
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Orochimaru's cells taking over Sasuke.
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Does anything seem familiar to you?
Orochimaru's life energy is similiar to shodai's in that they sort of have life of there own. Kabuto had to gain the upperhand on Orochimaru's cells just as Danzo had to seal the 1st Hokage's cells. Orochimaru was either born with that life energy or he somehow transplated the 1st Hokage's cells within himself. However Orochimaru was always seen as inhuman.
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On thee other hand we know that Orochimaru was experimenting with the 1st Hokage's cells.
Kabuto refer's to Orochimaru's powers as powers and not abilities.
Similiar to how Danzou injected the first Hokage's cells in him Kabuto did the same with Orochimaru cells. As you know Kabuto took Orochimaru's justus as well as his regenerative powers when he injected Orochimaru's cells in him. However Kabuto also took Orochimaru's massive chakra capacity and seemingly increased it. Which shows in his power to summon Manda 2 a much larger and I'm assuming is a more chakra demanding technique.
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His power boost also shows in his edo tensei.
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What does this mean? It means Kabuto right now has 1 of the if not most biggest Chakra capacities. This also means he is able to use the most demanding jutsus which also means right now he may have the most powerful jutsus up his sleeve right now super edo tensei.
The real reason why orochimaru wanted Sasuke's body was for his chakra as well. He wanted the chakra of the Uchiha as well as the eyes. Orochimaru would be damn near unstoppable if he were to get a hold of Sasuke's body. Imagine a ninja with a massive chakra capacity, filled with the most powerful chakra, and gifted with the ability to learn powerful ninja techniques at an inhuman rate. Picture Sasuke with a chakra pool as big as Orochimaru's, regeneration and forbidden techs . You will get a ninja with ability to spam a bunch of lighting blades, earth walls, suiton water guns, Super Genjustus, immunity to genjutsus, edo tensei like jutsus, and summons like manda.
You can't? Orochimaru can and so does this guy
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This could also mean Sasuke's chakra could be more potent then Itachi's even though Itachi is smarter then Sasuke which is why orochimaru said sasuke has eye's that may surpass Itachi. If Orochimaru where to take Sasuke's eyes without his chakra he would be worse off then Kakashi with Obito's 1 eye.
Well guys here is more evidence from recent chapters.
In the original post I said that the village inherited the will of fire. I hypothically called this the rikodou's will. The 3rd Hokage, Jiraiya said they inherited the will of fire.
In a very recent chapter Tsunade confirmed this will of fire to in fact be the the first Hokage's will.
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She explained that she did not inherited mokuton or his healing powers but she inherited his will power also known as the will of fire.
Meaning the third Hokage and Jiraiya said they inherited the younger brother's will. If they inherited his will they must have inherited his body as well as his massive chakra..
In this panel the Hokage said he inherited the willpower of the first and second Hokage SENJUS. I repeat the WIll of the SENJU
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So we have Tsunade senju saying she inheriting the willpower of the first hokage senju and now we have jiraiya and the 3rd Hokage talking about the willpower they inherited.
This supports( I didn't said in grave) my theory that the 3rd Hokage and Jiraiya are in fact senju just like Tsunade..
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And for those who forgot let me remind you
The younger brother passed down the body, lifeforce and willpower (love) to the senju.
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Also to put in perspective the actual willpower of the Sage. Is the power to never give up and never quit which.. is how we stumble on this panel:
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"But I can tell the fire of the Senju clan dwells within you."
Tobi said that to Naruto. Naruto of the Uzamaki clan... cousin of the senju clan...
Again the willpower of the senju is too "NEVER GIVE UP."
Now I think this should be case closed and enough evidence to verify that the 3rd Hokage and the Sannin were in fact ninja of the senju clan or direct descendants.
In the most recent chapter Kabuto referred to his sage mode as being close to the rikodou's power.
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I said in the original post that sage mode, senjutsu, the jinchinrukins etc.. etc were all related.
And also look who is in the background orochimaru...
Like I said Kabuto has Orochimaru's powers. Key word Powers. Without Orochimaru's power *cough* *cough* senju's power. Kabuto would still be Kakashi's level. He needed orochimaru's massive chakra capacity and lifeforce to even handle sage mode to begin with and to perform the forbidden over hax techniques like edo tensai.
If that weren't the case then why did he need to risk his life by injecting himself with orochimaru's cells???
Well guys here is more evidence from recent chapters.
In the original post I said that the village inherited the will of fire. I hypothically called this the rikodou's will. The 3rd Hokage, Jiraiya said they inherited the will of fire.
In a very recent chapter Tsunade confirmed this will of fire to in fact be the the first Hokage's will.
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She explained that she did not inherited mokuton or his healing powers but she inherited his will power also known as the will of fire.
Meaning the third Hokage and Jiraiya said they inherited the younger brother's will. If they inherited his will they must have inherited his body as well as his massive chakra..
In this panel the Hokage said he inherited the willpower of the first and second Hokage SENJUS. I repeat the WIll of the SENJU
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So we have Tsunade senju saying she inheriting the willpower of the first hokage senju and now we have jiraiya and the 3rd Hokage talking about the willpower they inherited.
This supports( I didn't said in grave) my theory that the 3rd Hokage and Jiraiya are in fact senju just like Tsunade..
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And for those who forgot let me remind you
The younger brother passed down the body, lifeforce and willpower (love) to the senju.
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Also to put in perspective the actual willpower of the Sage. Is the power to never give up and never quit which.. is how we stumble on this panel:
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"But I can tell the fire of the Senju clan dwells within you."
Tobi said that to Naruto. Naruto of the Uzamaki clan... cousin of the senju clan...
Again the willpower of the senju is too "NEVER GIVE UP."
Now I think this should be case closed and enough evidence to verify that the 3rd Hokage and the Sannin were in fact ninja of the senju clan or direct descendants.
In the most recent chapter Kabuto referred to his sage mode as being close to the rikodou's power.
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I said in the original post that sage mode, senjutsu, the jinchinrukins etc.. etc were all related.
And also look who is in the background orochimaru...
Like I said Kabuto has Orochimaru's powers. Key word Powers. Without Orochimaru's power *cough* *cough* senju's power. Kabuto would still be Kakashi's level. He needed orochimaru's massive chakra capacity and lifeforce to even handle sage mode to begin with and to perform the forbidden over hax techniques like edo tensai.
If that weren't the case then why did he need to risk his life by injecting himself with orochimaru's cells???
"I'm the first Hokage's Hashirama descendant..But it is true that I cannot use the Mokuton...Even my medical ninja techniques cannot compare because he could use them without forming seals..what I inherited FROM THE FIRST WAS NOT STRENGTH BUT SOMETHING THAT CONTINUED FLOWING THROUGH THE AGES THATS MY REAL STRENGTH...DON"T UNDERESTIMATE THE WILL OF FIRE!!"
SHE SAID IT. It's manga fact that the Will of fire was passed down by the senju.
I also made references to Naruto that the will of fire its nothing more then a ninja never giving up which is why naruto never gives up and why tobi said the blood of the senju flows deep within him.
Your not argueing with me. Your literally argueing with the manga. You should carefully reread and analyze those pages I put up.
