The Pointlessness of BM+Sage mode ability?

[Valen]

Sm > bm

 

[Dantee]

He can sense danger faster and greater, sage mode is the only reason he won against the third raikage. The third Raikage which is the strongest raikage ever

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lost to naruto. In KM naruto couldn't even dodge A at the last second unless he used his maximum speed, here he just casually dodges him in sage mode.

Naruto only beat the 3rd Raikage because of the intel provided by the 8tails. KM already managed to hit the 3rd. I guess you also didn't know the 3rd is much slower than the 4th because he lacks v2 armour.

hed be able to add sage chakra into a tbb perhaps? BM power frog katas breaking susano'o ribs left right and centre.

as for SM having nothing on BM, you are ignoring frog katas and the fact that he can do combination nature jutsus which otherwise he wouldnt be able to, the frog song genjutsu which without SM naruto couldnt use a basic gen nvm a high level one like that.

Frog Katas will only increase his strength which already isn't rivaled in BM. He can throw around Bijuus and push back Susanoo's with his clones. SM+BM will hold no further purpose than fan service at this point.

Sm > bm

LOL>>.

Chapter 571. nuff said.

 

[UchihaIzuna]

Naruto only beat the 3rd Raikage because of the intel provided by the 8tails. KM already managed to hit the 3rd. I guess you also didn't know the 3rd is much slower than the 4th because he lacks v2 armour.


Frog Katas will only increase his strength which already isn't rivaled in BM. He can throw around Bijuus and push back Susanoo's with his clones. SM+BM will hold no further purpose than fan service at this point.

love how you ignored all my points except frog katas, are you saying there is no gain from a natural energy TBB? or for high level genjutsus?

 

[Baka Sennin]

first of all the sensing ability is priceless. i don't think naruto's ever been even hit while in sage mode. bm doesn't have the fastest speed 24/7, naruto still needs to use body flicker. and frog kata is also a great tool, given that vs obito what he needs to do is hit him before he gets absorbed. ie. an attack that hasn't landed yet and tobi is becoming tangible to absorb naruto will connect. plus combined with his chakra arms it's a handy technique.

just because bm is great doesn't mean it can't be better. better speed, durabilty, strength, reactions and stronger jutsu can all improve bm.

 

[Dantee]

love how you ignored all my points except frog katas, are you saying there is no gain from a natural energy TBB? or for high level genjutsus?

There is no gain from SM+BM. Frog song takes forever to set up and I doubt we would see it again. It's better off using with a sage mode clone. Nature energy TBB? :sy: It's allready the strongest tech. It doesn't even make logical sense for it to be stronger.

 

[Hori]

I don't really see the point of BM+SM. He can already make sage mode clones and the only thing sage mode grants that BM doesn't is sensing abilities. Bm Naruto is already super powerful. Adding Sage Mode into BM is kind of pointless and a stupid rumor.

I don't know maybe I'm stupid but I have this idea that if he fuses them both he will have the aura that is around SM increased

 

[UchihaIzuna]

There is no gain from SM+BM. Frog song takes forever to set up and I doubt we would see it again. It's better off using with a sage mode clone. Nature energy TBB? :sy: It's allready the strongest tech. It doesn't even make logical sense for it to be stronger.

the strongest tech? what are you basing that on considering the manga hasnt finished yet? the juubi isnt being taken down by it, therefore something stronger is needed... fairly logical really

 

[cptenn94]

well what are the advatages of beast mode and sage mode first.

beast mode
sense negativity
super speed
chakra cloak
full bijuu transformation
partial bijuu transformation
possible better chakra control(hasnt been confirmed but i think i saw him do a mini tbb without chakra arms....and we know naruto cant do one handed rasengan because of his poor chakra control, which stems from having to maintain the seal....)
probably heightened reflexes
looks badass
has a cape(sort off)
nearly limitless chakra
chakra arms
damage resistance
probable healing ability
powerful chakra
tbb



sage mode
super sensing skills(not limited to just negativity like bm is, and is probably the best sensing skill other than maybe nagatos rain, and gaaras sand)
more powerful chakra(meaning a sm normal sized rasengan does more damage than normal rasengan)
a larger chakra pool(as he is mixing in natural chakra, lets say he has 100 chakra...with sage mode he would have 150 total
becomes much faster(as he was able to go many yards in an instant to save tsunade from i think deva path
his attacks gain invisible range from frog kata
he becomes immensely physically stronger(a few clones flipped kurama like he was a little kitty)
damage resistance
has a cape
immesly heigthened reflexes


so i pointed out some of the advantages...here is what would happen if he combined the 2....

Sage beast mode
incredible speed....sharingan would probably not be able to follow him well......
incredbile durability....would be around as durable as the 3rd raikage
chakra arms would gain frog kata....
has a cape
look uber bad ass
unparaleled reflexes....
chakra cloak
full bijuu transformation
partial bijuu transformation
immense chakra pool becomes even larger
extremly powerful chakra
since naruto is friendly with kurama now, he could fuse with ma and pa
in an incomplete form was able to fully withstand nagatos influence from point blank range



simply....combine the advantages of the 2 modes and the weaknesses(the few) and you get naruto sbm

it would be epic to see this mode.....it wouldnt be useless

 

[Valen]

OP only defending BM... Lame..

I'm out.

 

[Dantee]

first of all the sensing ability is priceless. i don't think naruto's ever been even hit while in sage mode. bm doesn't have the fastest speed 24/7, naruto still needs to use body flicker. and frog kata is also a great tool, given that vs obito what he needs to do is hit him before he gets absorbed. ie. an attack that hasn't landed yet and tobi is becoming tangible to absorb naruto will connect. plus combined with his chakra arms it's a handy technique.

just because bm is great doesn't mean it can't be better. better speed, durabilty, strength, reactions and stronger jutsu can all improve bm.

Frog Katas won't help him hit Tobi. Tobi does not dodge he becomes intangible by crossing another dimension. His sensing abilities in SM are the only upgrade I can forsee but is it really neccessary? He is already the fastest thing out there he's just not use to his speed.
and do you think BM mode already needs an upgrade? It's already the fastest/strongest thing out there.

 

[I Kill People]

Bravo ...

 

[Sanguis]

Natural chakra > any other type of chakra

 

[Dantee]

well what are the advatages of beast mode and sage mode first.

beast mode
sense negativity
super speed
chakra cloak
full bijuu transformation
partial bijuu transformation
possible better chakra control(hasnt been confirmed but i think i saw him do a mini tbb without chakra arms....and we know naruto cant do one handed rasengan because of his poor chakra control, which stems from having to maintain the seal....)
probably heightened reflexes
looks badass
has a cape(sort off)
nearly limitless chakra
chakra arms
damage resistance
probable healing ability
powerful chakra
tbb



sage mode
super sensing skills(not limited to just negativity like bm is, and is probably the best sensing skill other than maybe nagatos rain, and gaaras sand)
more powerful chakra(meaning a sm normal sized rasengan does more damage than normal rasengan)
a larger chakra pool(as he is mixing in natural chakra, lets say he has 100 chakra...with sage mode he would have 150 total
becomes much faster(as he was able to go many yards in an instant to save tsunade from i think deva path
his attacks gain invisible range from frog kata
he becomes immensely physically stronger(a few clones flipped kurama like he was a little kitty)
damage resistance
has a cape
immesly heigthened reflexes


so i pointed out some of the advantages...here is what would happen if he combined the 2....

Sage beast mode
incredible speed....sharingan would probably not be able to follow him well......It already can't. Sage Mode cannot possibly increase his speed anymore.
incredbile durability....would be around as durable as the 3rd raikage.Naruto is using the 9 tails chakra. He is already massivly durable. He was able to tank the Juubis kamehamaha
chakra arms would gain frog kata....Pointless?
has a cape
look uber bad ass
unparaleled reflexes...
chakra cloak
full bijuu transformation
partial bijuu transformation
immense chakra pool becomes even larger(Trolling?)
extremly powerful chakra
since naruto is friendly with kurama now, he could fuse with ma and paMore pointlessness
in an incomplete form was able to fully withstand nagatos influence from point blank range



simply....combine the advantages of the 2 modes and the weaknesses(the few) and you get naruto sbm

it would be epic to see this mode.....it wouldnt be uselessWe all know it will be nothing but fanboy service)

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