[Theory] The PLUTON is still alive!!!

Is the PLUTON still alive!?

  • Absolutely not, Franky burned the real thing.

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Maybe he kept the interesting pages.

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • He kept everything, the burnt one was a well done fake.

    Votes: 1 25.0%

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My justification for this is do you really think Franky would flat out burn the blueprints when they have been passed down for hundreds of years. He'd be seen as the worst shipwright ever, not only that Tom trusted him with the blueprints.

He probably created an exact copy of the original and burned that one instead... If you're going to say Franky can't recreate the Pluton, yes he can, they're blueprints. Any good shipwright can do it with patience and hard work.

A lot of the Thousand Sunny's gadgets are hundreds of years ahead of their time, where do you think Franky got his inspiration from. He probably copied some stuff from the Pluton. I don't care who Franky is, the stuff he pulls out is on par with Vegapunk, he's probably a smart guy, but nobody tops Vegapunk. He got his ideas from somewhere else, or in other words the Pluton blueprints...
 

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Honestly it was the last momento he had from tom and if anything tom taught him that ideas and ships should be treated like children. They only have one parent and that parent is the only one that will ever give a damn about them so its your job as a shiprite to be the best damn parent to the ship or those blue prints.

I am sure franky still has something left of it.
 

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My justification for this is do you really think Franky would flat out burn the blueprints when they have been passed down for hundreds of years. He'd be seen as the worst shipwright ever, not only that Tom trusted him with the blueprints.

He probably created an exact copy of the original and burned that one instead... If you're going to say Franky can't recreate the Pluton, yes he can, they're blueprints. Any good shipwright can do it with patience and hard work.

A lot of the Thousand Sunny's gadgets are hundreds of years ahead of their time, where do you think Franky got his inspiration from. He probably copied some stuff from the Pluton. I don't care who Franky is, the stuff he pulls out is on par with Vegapunk, he's probably a smart guy, but nobody tops Vegapunk. He got his ideas from somewhere else, or in other words the Pluton blueprints...
1) Yes I think he would. Franky doesn't care about what people think of him and it was Iceburg who entrusted him with the prints, not Tom, and they all had ambiguous feelings towards these blueprints. Iceburg's calm reaction after Franky told him about him burning the blueprints also pretty much disproves your statements.

2) The real Pluton still exists. The blueprints were nothing more than leverage in the case something goes wrong with the real Pluton. Franky having made a copy of the plans would be contradictory to a large part of the Enies Lobbies arc where one of the important consequences was that he gambles on the Strawhats rather than on the leverage of a new Pluton.

3) Who says Sunny's gadgets, at least the pre-timeskip ones, are hundreds of years ahead of their time? Not to mention everything post time-skip is the result of Franky studying Vegapunks notes, so your comments about Vegapunk don't make much sense.

4) Franky was in the possession of the blueprints for several years and he had them always close by, he could have just memorized them (partially) for so far they would be conform with the image of his dream ship. I doubt that the kind of ship Pluton is and the kind Franky wanted to make, The Sunny, are that similar.
 

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1) Yes I think he would. Franky doesn't care about what people think of him and it was Iceburg who entrusted him with the prints, not Tom, and they all had ambiguous feelings towards these blueprints. Iceburg's calm reaction after Franky told him about him burning the blueprints also pretty much disproves your statements.

2) The real Pluton still exists. The blueprints were nothing more than leverage in the case something goes wrong with the real Pluton. Franky having made a copy of the plans would be contradictory to a large part of the Enies Lobbies arc where one of the important consequences was that he gambles on the Strawhats rather than on the leverage of a new Pluton.

3) Who says Sunny's gadgets, at least the pre-timeskip ones, are hundreds of years ahead of their time? Not to mention everything post time-skip is the result of Franky studying Vegapunks notes, so your comments about Vegapunk don't make much sense.

4) Franky was in the possession of the blueprints for several years and he had them always close by, he could have just memorized them (partially) for so far they would be conform with the image of his dream ship. I doubt that the kind of ship Pluton is and the kind Franky wanted to make, The Sunny, are that similar.
@Bold Franky was gambling on the straw hats to save him not keep the world safe. The only reason he burned the blue prints is cause he learned that robin wasn't the type to end the world. Tom kept the blueprints as a check against Robin. It was more that than the faith in the straw hats IMO. A large part of the arc was how people were putting their faith back in robin From franky to the rest of the straw hats whom believed her to have betrayed them at Water seven for a while. Franky having a copy on board the sunny or in his memory still doesnt change the fact that he was willing to die to save robin and the bond he has in his nakama.
 

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@Bold Franky was gambling on the straw hats to save him not keep the world safe. The only reason he burned the blue prints is cause he learned that robin wasn't the type to end the world. Tom kept the blueprints as a check against Robin. It was more that than the faith in the straw hats IMO. A large part of the arc was how people were putting their faith back in robin From franky to the rest of the straw hats whom believed her to have betrayed them at Water seven for a while. Franky having a copy on board the sunny or in his memory still doesnt change the fact that he was willing to die to save robin and the bond he has in his nakama.
That Robin existed was nothing more than an additional factor or are you going to tell me that all the other generations of shipwrights who kept the blueprints were aware that someday Robin would be born? The point of the blueprints was being a leverage, a safety measure in the case something would go wrong with the original Pluton. Robin is able to decipher poneglyph and as a result could find Pluton and hence potentially cause Pluton to be abused by for instance the WG, in which case the leverage of the blueprints is used. If Robin didn't exist it's not like that they would have thrown away the blueprints because of that. Robin was a potential catalyst for the real threat: Pluton.

Call it faith or gambling, it doesn't change a thing as Franky chose the Strawhats and Robin believing that they would not be a threat regarding Pluton. If Frankly would have burned the blueprints while Robin would remain in the hands of the WG, then there would be nothing to stop the original Pluton. Franky burned the blueprints because he was convinced that Robin, and the Strawhats, would not be a threat. That has nothing to do with him trying to save his own life and he even specifically said he was gambling on them for this very reason I just explained.
 

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franky really burned it. he said even tom would do the same.

the only remaining pluton was the actual ship which the location was detailed in alabasta.
 

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Imagine Enies Lobby is Russia

Franky is American

Pluton blueprints are nuclear bomb blueprints

The year is 1930 and CP9 (or the KGB) has you cornered while you have the blueprints in your hands.

I think the choice would be pretty obvious, Tom also wouldn't want the government in control over that technology. Burning those blueprints probably saved a lot of lives.

Of course the ancient weapons will play a big part in the story later on, but I do believe the real blueprints are gone. Maybe there are more, or a newer/older version out there, but by destroying those Franky got the government of his and his friends' back
 
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