The periodic Hype-Hiruzen threads

[Rikudou Tobi]

I know that people make threads about Hiruzen's hype being feats and with all the funny edit scans of Hiruzen being omnipotent and such. But I hope you guess know that most of those databook/manga hype is just PIS, right?
I'm not saying he's weak or anything but...

-Hiruzen can't possibly know all the leaf villages hidan clan jutsus.
1) Why? Because he would be overpowered and probably be able to take two villages down by himself if that were possble. He'd give Rsm naruto some trouble if he really did know ALL of the Hidan jutsus plus the ones he already has.

-Hiruzen can't really beat Oonoki.
2) Why? Oonoki has too much fire power for him and has done impressive feats such as take out stop the susanoo clones, cleared out Mokuton: Kajukai Kōrin, and vaporize ALMOST any ninjutsu thrown at him.

So he's a skilled shinobi that mastered down the very basics to a tee but he doesn't have the IT factor. The capability of destroying a village with one or two attack or any massive jutsu that gives top level characters in a run for their money. Just wanted to make sure that the hype being posted is just a joke.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

So Hiruzen can use FTG,Rasengan and Raikiri

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

So Hiruzen can use FTG,Rasengan and Raikiri

I said he can't, and those jutsus are not Hidan clan jutsus (maybe raikiri).

 

[Guntah]

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Can't you read?

"Strongest of all".

Hiruzen solos all, mangafact.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

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Can't you read?

"Strongest of all".

Hiruzen solos all, mangafact.

Did you actually read the thread or is it another NB jokes again? You know what PIS means don't you?

 

[SenseiSama]

There's always that one guy that's so mind blown about Prime Hiruzen that they have to make a thread to convince themselves it can't possibly be real. :lol

Kishi made Hiruzen in order to portray the potential a shinobi with no special bloodline can achieve. He had the intelligence and the talent to master any type of jutsu like Uchiha and the talent to more than 4 basic chakra natures like the Senju.

It's been repeatedly stated that the next generation surpasses the previous one, that's a theme Kishi always emphasized on. Hiruzen surpassed the previous generation in terms of pure skill, no one before him had the same natural understanding of jutsu like him.

P.S : Hiden techs are not KKG majority of the time, just jutsu that's passed on through word of mouth, so Hiruzen being able to use them doesn't contradict the manga.

 

[Guntah]

Did you actually read the thread or is it another NB jokes again? You know what PIS means don't you?

I think you're the one that didn't read it properly, my friend.

Strongest. Of. All.

 

[SenseiSama]

So Hiruzen can use FTG,Rasengan and Raikiri

He was Tobirama's student so him knowing it isn't impossible, and Raikiri didn't exist when he was still in prime, but that doesn't matter because he showed the ability to use lightning jutsu

 

[The Messiah]

I'm not a believer of the Prime Hiruzen hype. Itachi solos him.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

There's always that one guy that's so mind blown about Prime Hiruzen that they have to make a thread to convince themselves it can't possibly be real. :lol

Kishi made Hiruzen in order to portray the potential a shinobi with no special bloodline can achieve. He had the intelligence and the talent to master any type of jutsu like Uchiha and the talent to more than 4 basic chakra natures like the Senju.

It's been repeatedly stated that the next generation surpasses the previous one, that's a theme Kishi always emphasized on. Hiruzen surpassed the previous generation in terms of pure skill, no one before him had the same natural understanding of jutsu like him.

P.S : Hiden techs are not KKG majority of the time, just jutsu that's passed on through word of mouth, so Hiruzen being able to use them doesn't contradict the manga.

I know Hidan techs aren't KKG but there's no way Hiruzen is using shadow possession, expansion jutsu, aburama clan bug jamming jutus, and etc. That contradicts the manga.
But for the most part I agree with what you're saying.

I think you're the one that didn't read it properly, my friend.

Strongest. Of. All.

Oh great another one.

I'm not a believer of the Prime Hiruzen hype. Itachi solos him.

That makes you and I

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Your thread is not disproving anything. You're merely repeating the opinion that he cannot be tha powerful.

Hiruzen is the strongest ninja in the verse, denying this is just sad.

 

[Guntah]

Oh great another one.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Don't worry, I'm not brain dead like those Itachi people.

 

[Amenotejikara]

Hashirama is the real prime hiruzen. :lol

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[Nobel]

I'm not a believer of the Prime Hiruzen hype. Itachi solos him.

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It's not a choice you make, listen to this subject who once pledged his loyalty to Rikuzen.

OT: , and so the eternal hype project is executed!!!! Those in denial are neutralized without mercy.

 

[SenseiSama]

I know Hidan techs aren't KKG but there's no way Hiruzen is using shadow possession, expansion jutsu, aburama clan bug jamming jutus, and etc. That contradicts the manga.
But for the most part I agree with what you're saying.

Oh great another one.

No it doesn't, he was revived as a +70year old man in the War Arc, logically he wouldn't have a fraction of the feats he used to in his prime. If you summoned old Madara you wouldn't expect him to perform all the feats prime Hagoromo was said capable of doing.

Him mastering all jutsu backs up the theme of "next gen surpassing previous one". Tobirama was a ninjutsu genius and Hiruzen surpassed him by being able to learn all jutsu that aren't KKG.

The same theme is applied in his relationship with Orochimaru. Hiruzen being able to master all Konoha jutsu would be one of the main reasons why his student wanted to achieve the same and surpass him by mastering all jutsu in the world.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Your thread is not disproving anything. You're merely repeating the opinion that he cannot be tha powerful.

Hiruzen is the strongest ninja in the verse, denying this is just sad.

It's sad that you have nothing to stand by this. My thread is just saying "show me the facts" which your post failed to do like the rest of the hype believers. Name one attack Hiruzen has that can beat 25 susanoo's, jinton, tree world, and capable of leveling a village.

I'll wait

No it doesn't, he was revived as a +70year old man in the War Arc, logically he wouldn't have a fraction of the feats he used to in his prime. If you summoned old Madara you wouldn't expect him to perform all the feats prime Hagoromo was said capable of doing.

He would considering that edo tensei gives the body unlimited chakra so whatever he was able to do in the war was basically the limit to what he was able to do in his prime.
Also Old madara died with a sharingan in his eye, so of course he wouldn't be able to do what Hagormoo did with a sharingan. But everything he did do in the cave and taught Obito would be within his capabilities if he was brought back at that state.

Him mastering all jutsu backs up the theme of "next gen surpassing previous one". Tobirama was a ninjutsu genius and Hiruzen surpassed him by being able to learn all jutsu that aren't KKG.

Not entirely true. Sasuke and Naruto are examples of passing the previous generation and they did not master all the jutsus.

The same theme is applied in his relationship with Orochimaru. Hiruzen being able to master all Konoha jutsu would be one of the main reasons why his student wanted to achieve the same and surpass him by mastering all jutsu in the world.

Not the Hidan ones or KKG

 

[Venomous Cobra]

It's sad that you have nothing to stand by this. My thread is just saying "show me the facts" which your post failed to do like the rest of the hype believers. Name one attack Hiruzen has that can beat 25 susanoo's, jinton, tree world, and capable of leveling a village.

I'll wait

He would considering that edo tensei gives the body unlimited chakra so whatever he was able to do in the war was basically the limit to what he was able to do in his prime.
Also Old madara died with a sharingan in his eye, so of course he wouldn't be able to do what Hagormoo did with a sharingan. But everything he did do in the cave and taught Obito would be within his capabilities if he was brought back at that state.


Not entirely true. Sasuke and Naruto are examples of passing the previous generation and they did not master all the jutsus.

Not the Hidan ones or KKG

I dont need to when the databook and the manga both support it

 

[UnknownJin]

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It's not a choice you make, listen to this subject who once pledged his loyalty to Rikuzen.

OT: , and so the eternal hype project is executed!!!! Those in denial are neutralized without mercy.

HIRUZENAMI GG ! HAHAHAHHAHAHA

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[To Whatever]

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[MomoSaka]

I'm not a believer of the Prime Hiruzen hype. Itachi solos him.

Yeah of course......itachi is invincible lol :elmo: