The peace ideology in the series......

[Venomous Cobra]

so yeah now that the manga is over and aside from pairings which character had the best ideology , who had the best ideology about peace in the series ?

Nagato-wanted to show the world "pain"and was wiling to create a weapon by using the bijuu

madara- getting everyone inside a dream in which gives them everything they wanted in life and rule that dream world

naruto-by understanding each other's pain people will be able to obtain peach (kinda)

sasuke-rule the world and get red of the past mistakes(kages) and control the bijuu until all the hatred is foucesd on him(kinda like what lelouch did but wasn't sasuke wasn't wiling to die)

kaguya-now kaguya didn't necessarily had anything in mind about peace but her wanting to get all the chakra in the world for herself was kinda ok but then again humans would've just invented another thing to kill each other

now tell me which one do you think was close to obtain a temporary peace (theres no such a thing as "eternal peace" cause love is what causes hate )

 

[Zealotic]

Itachi .

 

[take it easy]

Naruto ofcourse.

Nagato's idea is nothing but only containment strategy.

And i don't see how Sasuke's bloody dictatorship or Madara's fake world may even be considered as peace.

 

[JackelLord]

Itachi had the best peace ideology

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Naruto ofcourse.

Nagato's idea is nothing but containment strategy.

And i don't see how Sasuke's bloody dictatorship or Madara's fake world may even be considered as peace.

if democracy couldn't obtain pace why not try dictatorship ?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Itachi had the best peace ideology

what was it ? i dont seem to remeber

 

[Mari Makinami]

There is no better ideology whatsoever, every has it's advantages and disadvantages, which depend on your own subjective view of the life. This goes for our world as well.

 

[take it easy]

if democracy couldn't obtain pace why not try dictatorship ?

I don't think that dictatorship have better chances to obtain peace in NV than democracy.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

There is no better ideology whatsoever, every has it's advantages and disadvantages, which depend on your own subjective view of the life. This goes for our world as well.

thats exactly what i thought but i was talking about everyone's point of view, so whats yours

 

[Mari Makinami]

thats exactly what i thought but i was talking about everyone's point of view, so whats yours

I think that no matter which ideology is closer to you, there always will be those who will oppose it.

No matter how long the truce will last, another war will come with the following generations forgetting the past.

So basicly if I was given an opportunity to change the world, either NV or ours, I probably would just leave it be as it is.

I believe that our life and our world are beautiful just as they are, and you know, tastes differ. If I make some changes, there definitely will be some people who won't like them.

You can't make it perfect for everyone, so there is no point in changing anything at all - that's if we're talking about "what's best for the world" stuff.

You could do that for your own benefits, of course

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I think that no matter which ideology is closer to you, there always will be those who will oppose it.

No matter how long the truce will last, another war will come with the following generations forgetting the past.

So basicly if I was given an opportunity to change the world, either NV or ours, I probably would just leave it be as it is.

I believe that our life and our world are beautiful just as they are, and you know, tastes differ. If I make some changes, there definitely will be some people who won't like them.

You can't make it perfect for everyone, so there is no point in changing anything at all - that's if we're talking about "what's best for the world" stuff.

You could do that for your own benefits, of course

makes sense.........

 

[IHunt]

Kakuzu. Money is the salvation of all things, I tell you.

But now, seriously, this peace thing was ****** from the beginning to the end.

There's no good, straight solutions. That's the truth. That's the ONLY truth. If there was something that could be made from this peace topic, should be hammering right in Naruto's head that there's no magic, no jutsu, no WEAPON, no ideology that can magically save the world.

Peace is a diifficult and and not traight path, and the future generations can as well screw it up.

Amazes me how Kishimoto can write some mature stuff and then come with this childlish **** to resolve it.

 

[V h o]

Naruto's .

 

[Meee]

Madara U_U

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Madara's way was the best as was not only offered a permanent peace with no pestilence, no famine, and no death. Just just eternal happniess. That's why Kishi had to pull that Zetsu retcon out of his ass.

Naruto's way has been proven to be a dud. Nishuu didn't stop Idra from going to war with his family. There is more to conflict than misunderstanding.

 

[RedShadow]

Peace is bull.

 

[Lia]

Madara's way was the best as was not only offered a permanent peace with no pestilence, no famine, and no death. Just just eternal happniess. That's why Kishi had to pull that Zetsu retcon out of his ass.

Naruto's way has been proven to be a dud. Nishuu didn't stop Idra from going to war with his family. There is more to conflict than misunderstanding.

I'll go with this.
Madaras solution was the best solution. Of course there are some people who would say "no, it's only a dream, not real!!" but that doesn't matter. That "dream" would feel like reality. As you sure know, dreams can feel very realistic and.. just imagine that this dream continues forever. I don't know if people inside Mugen Tsukuyomi would be able to live as long as they are connected to these root-things like Madara was connected to the Gedo Mazo. But even if they would live a normal lifetime within this dream, everyone would be happy. Every person gets what he wants, without affecting other people what might ends bad.
I would welcome this dreamworld in real life. Reality is cruel, humanity is cruel.. and there is no way that it will change someday.

But yeah.. Kishimoto couldn't let the villain bring peace, so he needed to make Mugen Tsukuyomi a bad thing and came up with this Zetsu-BS, which doesn't even makes any sense.

 

[NSUNSR]

Naruto's was the best.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

I'll go with this.
Madaras solution was the best solution. Of course there are some people who would say "no, it's only a dream, not real!!" but that doesn't matter. That "dream" would feel like reality. As you sure know, dreams can feel very realistic and.. just imagine that this dream continues forever. I don't know if people inside Mugen Tsukuyomi would be able to live as long as they are connected to these root-things like Madara was connected to the Gedo Mazo. But even if they would live a normal lifetime within this dream, everyone would be happy. Every person gets what he wants, without affecting other people what might ends bad.
I would welcome this dreamworld in real life. Reality is cruel, humanity is cruel.. and there is no way that it will change someday.

But yeah.. Kishimoto couldn't let the villain bring peace, so he needed to make Mugen Tsukuyomi a bad thing and came up with this Zetsu-BS, which doesn't even makes any sense.

Hagoromo stated that the tree's power would keep them alive. The Gedo Mazo is just a weaker version of the God Tree/Juubi's power. The databook also supports this.

"Mugen Tsukuyomi is listed as a Kekkei Mora Genjutsu used by Madara and Kaguya. The rightmost lines are really blurry so it's a bit hard for me to read, but it basically says that the user approaches the full moon and opens the Rinne Sharingan, which is reflected on the surface of the moon, shining light onto the surface of the earth which plunges everyone into an eternal sleep.

Divine: Deep Forest Emergence is then used on the helpless victims to let the Divine Tree capture them with its roots, so that it can steal their chakra for eternity."

That's the only reason why I support Madara's end game. If that feature didn't exist then humanity would have faced extinction.

 

[Lia]

Ah okay, thank you!
That sounds very good and reasonable. This Info makes MT even better, than that what Naruto reached.
I mean, what did he reach? What is his answer? Nothing at all, as we can see. He continued this ninja system which led to 4! world wars in NV. Now it seems that almost every "evil" is defeated (since Kurozetsu was portrayed as the root of darkness). But logically nothing changed and there will be other persons who turn evil.. maybe not as long as Naruto lives.. but after 2-3 generations surely.

Ah, before I forget... humanity's extinction wouldn't be so bad at all. The planet would be better off without humans, in NV as well as reality