The One who Knows Everything

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Contrary to popular belief...

• The scroll contains information on a jutsu. Not a special power Sasuke will awaken (infact
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  he is makeing Orochimaru do what is on the scroll, not himself. So, whatever new power there may be, it will not be Sasuke's.) nor is it able to summon "The One Who Knows All" --> Suigetsu said "with That Team Hawk can Rule this Shinobi World!"
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• "The One Who Knows All" is not a summon of the scroll, but he is related to it. Otherwise Sasuke wouldn't say "...This is it" and then "I'm going to The One Who Knows All" right after.
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  The two have to be connected.
  
• Another interesting fact is "The One Who Knows All" has a partner. Orochimaru said "What do you want to meet with Them for?
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Things to keep in mind...

• There is a weakness to every jutsu. ~Itachi
  
• Sasuke wants to know about the True meanings of the words Clan, Shinobi, and Village. He looks to gather his thoughts and feelings, and decide what to do from here on in.

Prediction: The scroll contains one of the following:

• How to become the perfect host for the Juubi
  
• How to Strengthen/Weaken the control over the Juubi without becoming its host
  
• Madara's Weakness
  
• Infinite Tskuyomi's Weakness

Why?:
The One Who Knows All = Madara ?Why?

• He co-founded a village, he was a Clan Leader, and Sasuke has leaverage over him with information pertinent to the war. So, he should be able to clear things up for Sasuke, probably turning him bad/good for good.
  
• He has a partner--> Obito. Thus satisfying Orochimaru's comment.
  
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  Juugo said "It seems the Edo Tensei of Madara is still around". Sasuke immediatly realized what Itachi had done for him. While releaseing Edo Tensei, Itachi let Madara stay as an Edo. This allowed Sasuke to question him, and find himself.

The scroll --> jutsu prominent to Juubi/Madara weakness ?Why?

• Orochimaru studies Jutsu. He mixes hand signs and different chakras to create new jutsu. So, in his lab, you will likely find information on jutsu on his desk. Not information on a special power, or an ancient weapon. Nor a summoning of an all-knowing being.
  
  
• Secondly, Orochimaru studied Hashirama and Madara cells as an attempt to grasp the power of the Sage of Six Paths. This was also the reason why Kabuto was able to revive Madara, and enhance his body. The fusion with the Juubi is a fusion of Senju and Uchiha DNA. So, it is possible that Orochimaru knows how to Strengthen/Weaken the bond, or become the perfect host, of the weakness' of Madara.

Personally I think it's the Perfect host one.​

 

[Saikyokami]

"my Mom" quote form regular show ^^

 

[Sonnelion]

Maybe but I doubt it.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

this again?

 

[hawaiianmike]

For the sake of participating I'll add my few lines.

Personally I think something along the same line as you. However I do believe the jutsu may be a way of retrieving thing's from the death god, or maybe summoning the god himself. In which case Oro could retrieve his arms and in addition the former hokages. At which point I believe the one who knows it all may be Hashirama, or Hiruzen.

Reason being is if he was searching for answers who better than Hiruzen. The man Sasuke knows to be very knowledgeable, and was also believed to be the strongest Hokage in his prime. He could obtain answers about the Uchiha massacre from yet another source of information. Hashirama would also be a good person to have contact with, seeing as he was one of the most powerful shinobi ever known. Either way these 2 could be a possible candidates for who he would want to see for answers.

I highly doubt it's Madara seeing as he is on the battle field with Obito and the others. Not to mention they are going in the opposite direction.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

For the sake of participating I'll add my few lines.

Personally I think something along the same line as you. However I do believe the jutsu may be a way of retrieving thing's from the death god, or maybe summoning the god himself. In which case Oro could retrieve his arms and in addition the former hokages. At which point I believe the one who knows it all may be Hashirama, or Hiruzen.

Reason being is if he was searching for answers who better than Hiruzen. The man Sasuke knows to be very knowledgeable, and was also believed to be the strongest Hokage in his prime. He could obtain answers about the Uchiha massacre from yet another source of information. Hashirama would also be a good person to have contact with, seeing as he was one of the most powerful shinobi ever known. Either way these 2 could be a possible candidates for who he would want to see for answers.

I highly doubt it's Madara seeing as he is on the battle field with Obito and the others. Not to mention they are going in the opposite direction.

He needs no other source for the Uchiha Massacre. He got it from Itachi

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.
If he wanted more information, he would go to the other assassin. Obito. But he knows all the details surrounding the plot of it. The only thing he didn't necessarily know is who killed who, which isn't really important to know.
Since he is looking for answers, to particular questions... Who better to visit than His Clan Leader? Who happened to be a Co-founder of a village, and a ledgendary shinobi. Those are the 3 questions he has. Clan, Village, and Shinobi. Madara would be the perfect choice.
In terms of Strong shinobi who he could visit... Shouldn't Madara be up on that list?
How do you know they are going in the opposite direction? In any case... Orochimaru said that they are going to a place Sasuke knows well. Either the hidden labs that Orochimaru worked in, so they can gather data/do stuff... Or the Hidden Leaf.

 

[PrimeOfTheSixPaths]

Or maybe thats Sasuke going "WTF" to him hearing that Madara is still around after Edo was released >.>

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Or maybe thats Sasuke going "WTF" to him hearing that Madara is still around after Edo was released >.>

Take a look at the very next page. Sasuke's

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went over two pages.

 

[dirklyn]

Enough of such threads

 

[Z3R01]

"my Mom" quote form regular show ^^

You know who else uses qoutes like this ? MY MOM!!!

 

[Heikegani]

Even thought I don't agree 100%, rep for sharing interesting thoughts.
Mainly, I don't see Sasuke meeting with Madara cause that would recruit him in the Moons Eye Plan, which I think Sasuke won't agree to.
I don't think the one who knows everything is Madara (question: does Oro know that Edo Madara is around? I might be mistaken but I think not). I think the elders are the ones who know everything and Sasuke is heading that way. They have all the informationa about the Uchiha massacre, and right now Sasuke is torn between his original idea about getting back at Konoha and Itachi's which is opposite. Sasuke wants to know everything so he can make out his own conclusion.
I do agree with the idea that the scroll is a jutsu, and I believe i has something to do with the So6p and tapping his power.
I believe this mostly because it was Suigetsu who made the remark, someone who is not aware of all that is going on in the war (Madara killing everything and preparing an infinite genjutsu) so when Suigetsu says that that info can win the war for Hawk, it can't be Madara's weakness since Suig doesn't know he is around, it can't be infinite tsukoyomi's weakness for the same reason, it can't be a way to become the host of the Juubi since he also doesn't know the Juubi is around. I think that all trims the list and I'm not a 100% sure about what is in the scroll, but I can imagine that its likned to some sort of ancient power (the sage I believe) that would make someone like Suigetsu believe that it can beat anything.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Even thought I don't agree 100%, rep for sharing interesting thoughts.
Mainly, I don't see Sasuke meeting with Madara cause that would recruit him in the Moons Eye Plan, which I think Sasuke won't agree to.
I don't think the one who knows everything is Madara (question: does Oro know that Edo Madara is around? I might be mistaken but I think not). I think the elders are the ones who know everything and Sasuke is heading that way. They have all the informationa about the Uchiha massacre, and right now Sasuke is torn between his original idea about getting back at Konoha and Itachi's which is opposite. Sasuke wants to know everything so he can make out his own conclusion.
I do agree with the idea that the scroll is a jutsu, and I believe i has something to do with the So6p and tapping his power.
I believe this mostly because it was Suigetsu who made the remark, someone who is not aware of all that is going on in the war (Madara killing everything and preparing an infinite genjutsu) so when Suigetsu says that that info can win the war for Hawk, it can't be Madara's weakness since Suig doesn't know he is around, it can't be infinite tsukoyomi's weakness for the same reason, it can't be a way to become the host of the Juubi since he also doesn't know the Juubi is around. I think that all trims the list and I'm not a 100% sure about what is in the scroll, but I can imagine that its likned to some sort of ancient power (the sage I believe) that would make someone like Suigetsu believe that it can beat anything.

I really don't think that Madara really wants to go through with the Moon Eye Plan. I think he just wants to become the 10 tail jinjuriki.
But even if he does want to go through with the plan, i agree that Sasuke will not agree to it, and be dragged into it. He has never been one to be dragged into another person's/groups plan. What made you think that he would start now? Akatsuki was using him, just like he was using Akatsuki. He goes along with someone only if it is what he was planning to do from the start.
Yes. Orochimaru does know that. Juugo said it

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and Orochimaru could hear it. He may have heard it in other places as well. I just have the one link in mind though.
Sasuke knows all there is about the Uchiha Massacre. He does Not need any more information on it.

Right. He wants to know everything, so he can decide what he will do from here on out.
Suigetsu does know that Madara is arround, for the Same reason Juugo know the he is around. It happened off screen. But Juugo does acknowledged Edo Madara's existence, and Suigetsu isn't phased by his existence. So he knew.

And since so much of Team Hawk happens off screen, and Juugo knows of the Edos, and Kabuto and Tobi working together, and Sasuke was present when Tobi announced his Moon Eye plan, they all pretty much know everything about the war. Accept mabey, to the extent the Edo's were, details on it. They get the jist that Kabuto and Obito had/have a mix of Edo warriors, and zetsu. And that there is a joint Shinobi Alliance. So... yes. Team Hawk knows about the war, and its happenings.

 

[UnrealSoul]

Itachi didn't let madara escape edo tensei. Madara knew the hand signs and released him self. Stop giving itachi such hype. Therefore sasuke did not realize what itachi had done for him.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Itachi didn't let madara escape edo tensei. Madara knew the hand signs and released him self. Stop giving itachi such hype. Therefore sasuke did not realize what itachi had done for him.

Do you see any hand signs from

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to

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? This is when Madara was being taken back to the Pure world, and then spontaneously he stopped going there. No hand signs in the immediate action. He did however, do a hand sign

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, WAYYYYY after he was saved by Itachi. And that hand sign was not the sequence that Itachi made Kabuto do. Bluff? He himself said "It cant be helped" when he

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to disappear.

Also, explain Sasuke's

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. And Why Itachi said that he had to do one more thing.

 

[Heikegani]

I really don't think that Madara really wants to go through with the Moon Eye Plan. I think he just wants to become the 10 tail jinjuriki.
But even if he does want to go through with the plan, i agree that Sasuke will not agree to it, and be dragged into it. He has never been one to be dragged into another person's/groups plan. What made you think that he would start now? Akatsuki was using him, just like he was using Akatsuki. He goes along with someone only if it is what he was planning to do from the start.
Yes. Orochimaru does know that. Juugo said it HERE and Orochimaru could hear it. He may have heard it in other places as well. I just have the one link in mind though.
Sasuke knows all there is about the Uchiha Massacre. He does Not need any more information on it.

Right. He wants to know everything, so he can decide what he will do from here on out.
Suigetsu does know that Madara is arround, for the Same reason Juugo know the he is around. It happened off screen. But Juugo does acknowledged Edo Madara's existence, and Suigetsu isn't phased by his existence. So he knew.

And since so much of Team Hawk happens off screen, and Juugo knows of the Edos, and Kabuto and Tobi working together, and Sasuke was present when Tobi announced his Moon Eye plan, they all pretty much know everything about the war. Accept mabey, to the extent the Edo's were, details on it. They get the jist that Kabuto and Obito had/have a mix of Edo warriors, and zetsu. And that there is a joint Shinobi Alliance. So... yes. Team Hawk knows about the war, and its happenings.

I guess. though since as you say, taka is mainly off screen, I gotta take your word for it (I doubt taka and oro know about the juubi being alive).
Also I feel that "the one who knows everything" is such a vast term that its easy to get confused. sasuke is looking for information, but information about what? I think that Sasuke is mainly focused about his clan's history (idk if the massacre theme is resolved).
Sasuke's obstacles right now are hi efinitions of a village, a clan, etc... so he is completely centered about the history of the Uchiha and the Leaf. To Sasuke, he already met "Madara"(=Tobi) so he is not 'the one who knows everything".
We are both on the same page, Sasuke will never join Madara, you said it perfectly, so he has no reason to go to the battlefield. rather, its on Sasuke's best interest to let the war happen and have all the world's shinobi busy so he can move around and bully all the higher ups that have been so reserved from him.
Besides, meeting/killing the elders has been one of Sasuke's goals. Now its the best time to contact them since there is a war going on (they are more vulnerable).

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

I guess. though since as you say, taka is mainly off screen, I gotta take your word for it (I doubt taka and oro know about the juubi being alive).
Also I feel that "the one who knows everything" is such a vast term that its easy to get confused. sasuke is looking for information, but information about what? I think that Sasuke is mainly focused about his clan's history (idk if the massacre theme is resolved).
Sasuke's obstacles right now are hi efinitions of a village, a clan, etc... so he is completely centered about the history of the Uchiha and the Leaf. To Sasuke, he already met "Madara"(=Tobi) so he is not 'the one who knows everything".
We are both on the same page, Sasuke will never join Madara, you said it perfectly, so he has no reason to go to the battlefield. rather, its on Sasuke's best interest to let the war happen and have all the world's shinobi busy so he can move around and bully all the higher ups that have been so reserved from him.
Besides, meeting/killing the elders has been one of Sasuke's goals. Now its the best time to contact them since there is a war going on (they are more vulnerable).

Right.

 

[psukkar]

Contrary to popular belief...

• The scroll contains information on a jutsu. Not a special power Sasuke will awaken (infact
  You must be registered for see links
  he is makeing Orochimaru do what is on the scroll, not himself. So, whatever new power there may be, it will not be Sasuke's.) nor is it able to summon "The One Who Knows All" --> Suigetsu said "with That Team Hawk can Rule this Shinobi World!"
  You must be registered for see links
  
  
• "The One Who Knows All" is not a summon of the scroll, but he is related to it. Otherwise Sasuke wouldn't say "...This is it" and then "I'm going to The One Who Knows All" right after.
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  The two have to be connected.
  
• Another interesting fact is "The One Who Knows All" has a partner. Orochimaru said "What do you want to meet with Them for?
  You must be registered for see links

Things to keep in mind...

• There is a weakness to every jutsu. ~Itachi
  
• Sasuke wants to know about the True meanings of the words Clan, Shinobi, and Village. He looks to gather his thoughts and feelings, and decide what to do from here on in.

Prediction: The scroll contains one of the following:

• How to become the perfect host for the Juubi
  
• How to Strengthen/Weaken the control over the Juubi without becoming its host
  
• Madara's Weakness
  
• Infinite Tskuyomi's Weakness

Why?:
The One Who Knows All = Madara ?Why?

• He co-founded a village, he was a Clan Leader, and Sasuke has leaverage over him with information pertinent to the war. So, he should be able to clear things up for Sasuke, probably turning him bad/good for good.
  
• He has a partner--> Obito. Thus satisfying Orochimaru's comment.
  
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  Juugo said "It seems the Edo Tensei of Madara is still around". Sasuke immediatly realized what Itachi had done for him. While releaseing Edo Tensei, Itachi let Madara stay as an Edo. This allowed Sasuke to question him, and find himself.

The scroll --> jutsu prominent to Juubi/Madara weakness ?Why?

• Orochimaru studies Jutsu. He mixes hand signs and different chakras to create new jutsu. So, in his lab, you will likely find information on jutsu on his desk. Not information on a special power, or an ancient weapon. Nor a summoning of an all-knowing being.
  
  
• Secondly, Orochimaru studied Hashirama and Madara cells as an attempt to grasp the power of the Sage of Six Paths. This was also the reason why Kabuto was able to revive Madara, and enhance his body. The fusion with the Juubi is a fusion of Senju and Uchiha DNA. So, it is possible that Orochimaru knows how to Strengthen/Weaken the bond, or become the perfect host, of the weakness' of Madara.

Personally I think it's the Perfect host one.​

good job *****

well layed out and thought out.

If u look at this from a plot perspective, how else can sasuke get involved with the plot again if he isn't going to meet up with madara at some point.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

good job *****

well layed out and thought out.

If u look at this from a plot perspective, how else can sasuke get involved with the plot again if he isn't going to meet up with madara at some point.

Thanks

 

[Heikegani]

good job *****

well layed out and thought out.

If u look at this from a plot perspective, how else can sasuke get involved with the plot again if he isn't going to meet up with madara at some point.

I just don't see Sasuke heading into the battlefield right now. I can imagine him going to Konoha and killing the elders or something, after the whole fight between Obito Madara and SA, everyone finds out what Sasuke did and Naruto heads out to have a final battle at the Valley of End.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

I just don't see Sasuke heading into the battlefield right now. I can imagine him going to Konoha and killing the elders or something, after the whole fight between Obito Madara and SA, everyone finds out what Sasuke did and Naruto heads out to have a final battle at the Valley of End.

Neither do I really. I beleive that Orochimaru is not takeing him to Madara yet. But it Must happen at some point. I beleive that Sasuke will go to the Leaf, or the Uchiha hideout or Orochimaru's lab First. Then they might find Karin, and she tells them of a HUGE power (juubi) that she felt. Then once the battle is over, and the moon eye plan doesn't happen?(Obito dies?) then Sasuke will meet up with Madara, and Naruto finds out, and has a battle with Sasuke.


That is one thing I did not incorporate in my thread. Order of events.