[Theory] The One Who Knows Everything Isn't a Person...

[AaaaNinja]

The word 'them' is also used to specify someone whose gender is unknown.
"Someone wanted to see you, I sent them to your office."

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I looked at the original raw. Sasuke uses the word 奴ら or "yatsura". Yatsu is "that guy" or "those guys" depending on how many, but I think it's a quirk of the language that an indication of whether it's plural or not can be left out. Sasuke happens to be speaking a dialect that does use a particle to make it plural, ら or "ra". Yatsura.

Them be can singular; if you don't know a person's gender, you can call them they/them. And if it were more than one person, why would Sasuke be referring to the ONE Who Knows Everything? Why not They Who Know Everything?

As for Orochimaru guiding him there, read the manga yourself:

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Sasuke asks where they are going, and Orochimaru responds..."To a place that you too know very well". What place does Sasuke know like the back of his hand? The Naka Shrine.

My answer's above. The translator just did not know, and the original language was very ambiguous on that when I looked at it. None of the sentences in the chapter where the discussion begins mentions gender or how many. That's just how the language works. They did their best when translating it with what they had.

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I am sorry, but the Manga stated who ever Sasuke is going to see is the "Human" who knows everything, but nice theory.

To the OP of the thread, Sasuke is the first person to start mentioning about the person in question. He says, 全てを知る人間 "subete o shiru ningen" 人間 or "ningen" could stand for person/human being/people/human beings. 人 means "person" but it's in combination with 間 which advances the meaning a little to talk about the relationships between people. He could be talking about a community or people who are meant to be together. But anyhow, it's a person or persons he's talking about. It seems like I would be reaching to suggest that maybe the tablet represents the Uchiha Community but I don't know enough about the language to conclude that. And I doubt it because Sasuke also calls them "those guys" at one point as well which I feel he wouldn't say if he was talking about a tablet.

Them, is also used in a plural form. I believe he's going to have orochimaru edo tensei the uchiha clan and ask them. Oh, and just a fyi nagato could also read the entire script, so don't forget about him now.

When looking at the original language I found clues that it's in the plural but it's just one indicator in the form of a tiny particle used once by Sasuke. But I think it's plural.

 

[wade]

Nagato could read it, but he went and attacked the village, he wasn't interested in the tablet. I was thinking of him, but he's not an Uchiha and probably didn't know the tablet existed.

As for the Uchiha clan, it's a fair point, but I doubt they'd know any more than Sasuke or Orochimaru would if they're just ordinary members like Sasuke's parents. Unless you're talking about including Izuna in that.

you're being too narrow minded, whose to say he went to read the tablet at the time he attacked the village? Whose to say he didn't go before he attacked the village sometimes since he is affiliated with obito, and obito is infact a uchiha. Or whose to say obito hasn't warped there at some point in time since he's gotten the rinnegan? Since you know he can appear anywhere in an instant... I'm pretty sure at some point in time madara told obito about the shrine making obito interested in the shrine.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

Just a notice, for anyone telling me to "read the manga", I read the manga This is just a theory I think would be pretty cool, and it is somewhat plausible compared to some theories that people have (I saw one once where Sasuke will absorb the Ten-Tails and become it's Jinchuriki, and not to mention all those that say Sasuke will actually get the Rinnegan, which I reckon would be a really bad story choice for Kishi to make).
I'm not getting all snarky and defensive here, I value the criticism and points against my theory. Just saying, I do read the manga, and it is just a theory.

So, by all means, keep on discussing ^_^

you say you think getting the rinni is a bad story ....but why would he want to see the tablet for? isint it to get the rinni/so6p power? so i dont think it's the tablet.....the place that sasuke knows very well is his own village ....KONOHA and in thislast manga 616 we see that they are in Konoha ...so who will he meet... i think shusui....just by using elimination it's easy to come up with shusui. well thats my theory

 

[Yagamikira]

I looked at the original raw. Sasuke uses the word 奴ら or "yatsura". Yatsu is "that guy" or "those guys" depending on how many, but I think it's a quirk of the language that an indication of whether it's plural or not can be left out. Sasuke happens to be speaking a dialect that does use a particle to make it plural, ら or "ra". Yatsura.



My answer's above.



To the OP of the thread, Sasuke is the first person to start mentioning about the person in question. He says, 全てを知る人間 "subete o shiru ningen" 人間 or "ningen" could stand for person/human being/people/human beings. 人 means "person" but it's in combination with 間 which advances the meaning a little to talk about the relationships between people. He could be talking about a community or people who are meant to be together. But anyhow, it's a person or persons he's talking about. It seems like I would be reaching to suggest that maybe the tablet represents the Uchiha Community but I don't know enough about the language to conclude that. And I doubt it because Sasuke also calls them "those guys" at one point as well which I feel he wouldn't say if he was talking about a tablet.



When looking at the original language I found clues that it's in the plural but it's just one indicator in the form of a tiny particle used once by Sasuke. But I think it's plural.

this dude can actually read and speak japanese huh??
that's right.. "ningen" means human kind..you can all hear something like that when jiraiya vs nagato or obito's words about mugen tsukuyomi..just listen to it carefully and you'll get the "ningen" words..i guarantee it.

 

[binderr]

Wow good find! Definetely plus rep

lol what? this is not a find at all

 

[binderr]

It's the tablet in the Uchiha Meeting Place in the Naka Shrine.

This is just something I realised could really be true while reading about the Naka Shrine on the Naruto Wiki today.

The tablet in the Shrine was written by the Sage of Six Paths for his descendants, and can only be deciphered by the different advanced stages of the Sharingan; the basic Sharingan can read some of it, if you unlock the MS you can read more, and if you have the Rinnegan, you can supposedly read the entire tablet. The tablet details the Sage's history, the secrets of the Mangekyou Sharingan, the Ten-Tails and all of the Tailed Beasts, and information about Madara's "body" (presumably instructions on the Six Paths techniques).

Sasuke often went to the Shrine when depressed or curious to read the tablet, but because he only possessed the regular Sharingan, could only read a limited amount. Even Itachi, with only the MS, couldn't read the entire thing; only Madara ever had the potential, and he didn't unlock the Rinnegan until years after he was attached the Mazo, unable to reach the tablet.

So what I'm saying is, no one's every read the entire thing. The final section is a complete mystery.

Now, according the Naruto Wiki (don't ask for manga pages, because I don't have them), Orochimaru and Kabuto weren't able to read the tablet - of course - but spent years developing a theory on what the tablet says based on research.

So, what I'm thinking is, the scroll that Suigetsu found for Sasuke, that supposedly is really important (important enough that Sasuke would revive Orochimaru to help him fully understand the scroll), tells how to read the entire tablet without possessing the Rinnegan, or has information on what the rest of the tablet could possibly say. The One Who Knows Everything is the Sage of Six Paths, who wrote the tablet in the first place. It could tell how to revive him, or perhaps all the meddling with Edo Tensei and the awakening of the Ten-Tails has already revived the So6P, and that's the massive chakra the group can feel in chapter 616. Orochimaru already knew of this possible revival because of his research.

Sasuke wants to read the tablet because of his current existential crisis; he's confused about what is a clan, the meaning of it all, why Itachi was like he was, what's the meaning of being a Shinobi. The tablet will have the Sage's original writings and ideals, explaining all of this and ending Sasuke's ridiculous path of revenge. He'll then go to fight Madara and hopefully get killed by him, because I don't like Sasuke very much ^_^

TL;DR: The scroll Suigetsu gave Sasuke tells how to read the tablet in the Naka Shrine without the Rinnegan, and the One Who Knows Everything is the S06P through said tablet, possibly revived.

first of all, So6p is not the TOWKE, because he doesnt know jack shit aout clans and shinobis. he was a friggin monk.
secondly, I believe Madara actually read the whole thing, and Oro already guessed the entire thing.

 

[Lyanna Stark]

the facts are he is meating THEM meaning a group the only people that would know much about what sasuke wants are the only two people who havnt been reserected shisui and izuna uchiha makes sense? izuna was madaras brother they were close he would tell eachother alot if not everything and shisui was an anbu of the leaf who would have known the elders plans.
Just my thaught

 

[TheWillofFire]

I like it
Except you are going off of the SO6P writing the tablet
And no where does it say anywhere in Manga that he wrote it, why would SO6P write about Juubi to Uchihas?

 

[Sarahmint]

Amazing theory, but Sasuke wouldn't need Oro to lead him there.

 

[AaaaNinja]

I like it
Except you are going off of the SO6P writing the tablet
And no where does it say anywhere in Manga that he wrote it, why would SO6P write about Juubi to Uchihas?

Hmmm, maybe he gave knowledge to the younger son, and the elder son's future generations had to earn the knowledge, via his eyes or something, I dunno.

 

[Tastyramen]

I can't believe that people still accept what Tobi said regarding the tablet and how the Sage of Six Paths wrote the thing. Everything Tobi said could be completely false, if you believe what he said about the two sons and that the Sage chose the younger of the two, due to his beliefs. Then why would the Sage write a tablet that informs only the older son and his descendants how to achieve more power?

It's doesn't make any sense.

 

[AaaaNinja]

I can't believe that people still accept what Tobi said regarding the tablet and how the Sage of Six Paths wrote the thing. Everything Tobi said could be completely false, if you believe what he said about the two sons and that the Sage chose the younger of the two, due to his beliefs. Then why would the Sage write a tablet that informs only the older son and his descendants how to achieve more power?

It's doesn't make any sense.

He would have his reasons even if they aren't fully-understood. You make a good point about Tobi. He does twist things and I almost forgot that. "Oh, the ninetails' attack on the village was a Natural Disaster and the Uchiha had nothing to do with it," and then Naruto's mom told him someone was controlling it.

When I read your post I remember that scene where he was telling the Kages about what was on the tablet, and also when he shared the legend with Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato. How much of it is the truth? I don't think I trust him completely. If Sasuke's gone to read the tablet personally, maybe he'll get a slightly different story.

He actually has one eye level greater than Obito, so unless Obito had someone go look at the tablet for him, he would find out more than Obito, and maybe we'll find out whether Madara lied to Obito too. If I were Sasuke I wouldn't trust any other Uchiha either, I'd be tired of all the lies.

 

[lion fang master]

I really like this thread but I disagree with the chose of whom knows everything. I see so6p comment but I doubt that he would make himself useful to one part and not the other. I believe that that person is the older son of so6p the one that was gifted with sage eyes / spirit energy, the person that originally wrote the tablet. U can't believe both obito & itachi. Also I don't believe madara and his brother stood for the same thing. All thru this manga there have been 2 sides to the uchiha clan, there was purpose of izanami & izanagi, there were ninjas like itachi & shisui even itachi's father was kind of pleased at what side itachi took. My point is sasuke needs orochimaru to revive his parents to ask about who & what the uchiha clan is, then he probably use his EMS to read the tablet and make his choice.
A lot ppl think so6p is going to reappear but as obito said the sage choose love to rule the ninja world but the older bother didn't like the decision and took revenge against the younger brother but let the fight so what better way to seek future revenge by leaving instructions for future generations to seek ultimate power to rule the ninja world against peace/love.
Another thing I just about, the scroll. Kabuto said he made special arrangements or something of that nature to Edo madara body so he should be able to go at full strength based on their theory I think orochimaru has find a way to reach rinnegan stage without senju DNA and the keys would juugo and Karin. Juugo is ready to give his life to sasuke and Karin is still alive without serving any purpose besides having uzumaki DNA, 2 DNA that has already been compactable with sasuke's that why orochimaru wants sasuke especially now that he has EMS eye.

 

[Draxus]

2 things... Naka Shrine is not in Konaha & the sage didn't create the tablet

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

the facts are he is meating THEM meaning a group the only people that would know much about what sasuke wants are the only two people who havnt been reserected shisui and izuna uchiha makes sense? izuna was madaras brother they were close he would tell eachother alot if not everything and shisui was an anbu of the leaf who would have known the elders plans.
Just my thaught

It's also possible that it's Shisui and Kagami

 

[kibaclaw]

Orochimaru and kabuto already.deciphered the entire tablet. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[superfuzzyllama]

The tablet in the Shrine was written by the Sage of Six Paths for his descendants, and can only be deciphered by the different advanced stages of the Sharingan; the basic Sharingan can read some of it, if you unlock the MS you can read more, and if you have the Rinnegan, you can supposedly read the entire tablet. The tablet details the Sage's history, the secrets of the Mangekyou Sharingan, the Ten-Tails and all of the Tailed Beasts, and information about Madara's "body" (presumably instructions on the Six Paths techniques)

I believe the Sage did not create the tablet, the reason is because it would contradict the exact reason why he choose the younger son over the elder son in the first place, it would make much more sense for the Elder son or one of his descendants to have created the tablet. Plus your stating here that he knew about the Sharingan, based on what's been told in the manga the Sharingan and Byakugan came AFTER the Rinnegan not before so how can he know about the Sharingan? Also the only way there can be information on Madara's body is if Madara himself placed that information, how do you explain the Sage knowing about Madara?

I just don't see why the Sage who is looking to ensure that the Juubi does not come back into the world, would tell it all. I mean sure they are his descendants but even he is smart enough to know that a few would try to use the information to their advantage like Madara and Tobi. That's why it makes more sense for the Elder son or one of his descendants (evil like Madara) to have created it because of what happened between the Sage, his elder son and younger son.

 

[HarrisonX]

It's unlikely that it's gonna happen, but it might. I don't believe your theory is right but that's my opinion. And btw, Madara didn't unlock the Rinnegan when he attached himself to the Mazo, he unlocked the Rinnegan when it was the end of his natural life span. And he was able to reach the tablet and he did read ALL of it... How do you think Madara knew about the Ten-Tails being stuck inside the moon if he didn't read it? ...

 

[Ventalus]

Doubt it. Not gonna say that you're wrong but I doubt it.

In my opinion, Rikudou Sennin would never leave such a big hints for people like Sasuke. As well that he died before the clans started to exist or at least started to grow. Rikudou Sennin believed in the power of love and not the power of might.

As well you would not be enabled to summon him because so far we don't even know if they have any DNA from Rikudou Sennin with I doubt, and I doubt that he would enjoy being summoned/called back by sacrificing another human's life when Rikudou Sennin himself is 'Peace'.

Just my thoughts, I could as well be wrong.