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Sage Mode Naruto wrecks any version of MS Sasuke if we are talking about War Arc.



Comparing an earlier arc Sasuke to a later arc Naruto in order to put Naruto above him, lol.

Without the Kyuubi's assisstance in any sort of way, Sasuke owns Naruto with Genjutsu easily.

SM Naruto > most versions of Sasky. The rest is overkill.



SM Naruto > MS Sasuke

EMS Sasuke> SM Naruto

KCM Naruto =/< EMS Sauke

BSM Naruto =/> EMS Sasuke

Rikudo Mode Naruto = Rinnegan Sasuke

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Let's not forget base Naruto beat Sharinnegan Sasuke, countering him.

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Also, Naruto's base rasengan was evenly matched against Sasuke's enhanced amateratsu chidori.

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Manga facts shall remain manga facts.

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Let's not forget base Naruto beat Sharinnegan Sasuke, countering him.

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How did you miss the fact that Sasuke's 3T sharingan deactivated . Kurama even says in the scan you posted that his powers have weakened. His sharinnegan closed a .

Also, Naruto's base rasengan was evenly matched against Sasuke's enhanced amateratsu chidori.

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That wasn't base. It was kurama powered. How did you miss scan. "what's left is my chakra, and it's all yours now". Do you think is base too? :erm:
 
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How did you miss the fact that Sasuke's 3T sharingan deactivated . Kurama even says in the scan you posted that his powers have weakened. His sharinnegan closed a .
Nope, Sasuke clearly has his rinnegan activated before he attacked Naruto, Naruto punched him, and that's when it deactivated.

That wasn't base. It was kurama powered. How did you miss scan. "what's left is my chakra, and it's all yours now". Do you think is base too? :erm:

Naruto was in a transformed state in that scan, not the same. He is clearly in base with just a drop of Kurama chakra. His base rasengan was evenly matched against Sharinnegan Sasuke's enhanced amaterasu chidori. It was two infused ninjutsu's vs one ninjutsu.
 

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This was just Sasuke using his head in battle and knowing that he had the Bijuu's in the palm of his hands, so why exactly wouldn't he use them? I don't see any problem with Sasuke using extra tools to enhance his abilities. It's called being a ninja. Pretty sure if you had 9 chakra monsters at your disposal you wouldn't hesitate for a second to use them to your will.

At least Sasuke wasn't given advice on how to fight.

The only thing Sasuke had was his own wits and tactics. There was no being or entity gathering chakra for him or telling him what to do next.

I'd rather think for my own and discover a way of winning than to be given advice from someone else.
 

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This was just Sasuke using his head in battle and knowing that he had the Bijuu's in the palm of his hands, so why exactly wouldn't he use them? I don't see any problem with Sasuke using extra tools to enhance his abilities. It's called being a ninja. Pretty sure if you had 9 chakra monsters at your disposal you wouldn't hesitate for a second to use them to your will.

At least Sasuke wasn't given advice on how to fight.

The only thing Sasuke had was his own wits and tactics. There was no being or entity gathering chakra for him or telling him what to do next.

I'd rather think for my own and discover a way of winning than to be given advice from someone else.

like you just said, using the tools at his disposal. i like how its ok that sasuke used bijuu power, but when it described the way that naruto uses it, somehow the negative is found in it.

point still remains however. in any other circumstance where naruto and sasuke were fighting, naruto would have shitted on sasuke if he was out for blood. if you cant see that, then your just a fanboy. forget favorites, thats just how there power was at that point in time in the manga. both of them at their full power at that point in the manga in a death battle would have gone too naruto. im not talking about potential of the rennigan, because we than would have to go into the potential of RSM naruto. so we have to go on what they were capable of at that time, without 9 bijuu conviently being suspended in chibaku tensie for sasuke to get a mid battle upgrade. something that normally wouldnt have been possible, but for plot reasons was.
 

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Dude we already seen Tobi use just the Sharingan to control the Kyuubi during the Konoha attack flashback.

Obito had MS, But eh I believe you. Obito did have senju dna after all. Idk just going by the manga with that scan.

Comparing an earlier arc Sasuke to a later arc Naruto in order to put Naruto above him, lol.
Genjutsu is a non-factor in a match between SM Naruto Vs MS Sasuke. Which I can explain if needed.

In a vs battle (Which means no plot) between Pain arc SM Naruto & Danzo fight MS Sasuke. Naruto wins high-extremely high diff (majority consensus I've seen)

Not to mention this. I don't think I need to explain how credible & Knowledgeable KG is. Not to mention he's a Sasuke fan. (That doesn't mean anything really)
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True, Nice thread.

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In the end this was the result, but I think Kishi made them equals.
f*ck no he didn't...


Sasuke is gonna need a second life to surpass Naruto, like Madara needed a second life to surpass Hashi-boy.
 

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like you just said, using the tools at his disposal. i like how its ok that sasuke used bijuu power, but when it described the way that naruto uses it, somehow the negative is found in it.

First and foremost little boy, if you want to spout nonsense and say that Sasuke "stealing Bijuu chakra" and enhancing his Susano'O with the Bijuu chakra is a bad thing then I can easily say that it is even more poor that Naruto received advice from the Kyuubi while Sasuke had no one telling him what to do. If you can hop on what the op says and agree with him, but then turn around and get asshurt when I counter with the same principal then you are in fact the real fanboy here. Not me.

I don't care for your own sob story so you can save it. We wouldn't have to bring up the fact that Naruto received advice and help from the Kyubi if you didn't climb your way into this pitiful reasoning for Sasuke using the Bijuu as if that is actually bad. It's called being smart. No shit if he decided to capture the Bijuu, why else wouldn't he use it? How about you think for a minute instead of screaming your insecurities.

And second, how about you actually look at the thread instead of being so stupid. The op clearly started this mess, so I am not just going to act as if what he is saying is actually true.

Lastly, the rest of that post is just garbage. If in fact Naruto could simply just "shit on Sasuke" then their would be no need for him to go Bijuu mode just to block a simple fire jutsu or their would be no need for him to throw two Rasen-Shurikens to fend off against Sasuke's one arrow or their would be no need for Naruto to allow Kurama to gather so much nature energy just to tie with Sasuke.

The fact that you are even thinking that Naruto can just "shit on Sasuke" is laugh worthy when, if Naruto could just "shit on Sasuke" then they wouldn't have tied and Naruto wouldn't have lost his arm in the process of "shitting on Sasuke".

Naruto fanboys. I swear they have no ****ing sense.
 

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Obito had MS, But eh I believe you. Obito did have senju dna after all. Idk just going by the manga with that scan.


Genjutsu is a non-factor in a match between SM Naruto Vs MS Sasuke. Which I can explain if needed.

In a vs battle (Which means no plot) between Pain arc SM Naruto & Danzo fight MS Sasuke. Naruto wins high-extremely high diff (majority consensus I've seen)

Not to mention this. I don't think I need to explain how credible & Knowledgeable KG is. Not to mention he's a Sasuke fan. (That doesn't mean anything really)
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KG is one the most intelligent people on this site, but here's what Naruto has to say about himself Vs Sasuke back then.

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f*ck no he didn't...


Sasuke is gonna need a second life to surpass Naruto, like Madara needed a second life to surpass Hashi-boy.

I see you haven't been paying attention to Gaiden.

like you just said, using the tools at his disposal. i like how its ok that sasuke used bijuu power, but when it described the way that naruto uses it, somehow the negative is found in it.

point still remains however. in any other circumstance where naruto and sasuke were fighting, naruto would have shitted on sasuke if he was out for blood. if you cant see that, then your just a fanboy. forget favorites, thats just how there power was at that point in time in the manga. both of them at their full power at that point in the manga in a death battle would have gone too naruto. im not talking about potential of the rennigan, because we than would have to go into the potential of RSM naruto. so we have to go on what they were capable of at that time, without 9 bijuu conviently being suspended in chibaku tensie for sasuke to get a mid battle upgrade. something that normally wouldnt have been possible, but for plot reasons was.

Masashi purposefully had Sasuke lose his sword right before fighting Naruto, and not use multiple techniques such as Chibaku Tensei,and Bansho Tenin.

Sasuke was always stronger/more skilled than Naruto each time they.

1)In the Academy
2)End of Part 1
3)Orochimaru's hideout
4)Kage Summit
5)End of Part 2

Let's not forget base Naruto beat Sharinnegan Sasuke, countering him.

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Also, Naruto's base rasengan was evenly matched against Sasuke's enhanced amateratsu chidori.

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LOL, such obvious selective reading. Sasuke had his Left eye, (Tomoe Rinnegan eye closed, and go back to the page before then and we see. his EMS deactivating.



and on the page after the one you posted the Kyuubi himself mentions how Naruto noticed Sasuke's EMS deactivated, and took advantage.



And on the page i posted above the Kyuubi said to Naruto that he would give him the rest of his chakra, then Naruto made a Rasengan from it. It was a Kyuubi powered Rasengan.

Manga facts shall remain manga facts.

Fappers shall remain drowned in their fantasies.

Exactly, hence the OP's comment. Amazing how he and a few others selective read,and selective mentioned things without looking at the full situation.

 
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KG is one the most intelligent people on this site, but here's what Naruto has to say about himself Vs Sasuke back then.

Right and I showed where in a scenario where Plot is not involved. (Strongest thing in NV considering it neg diffed Madara)

Pain Arc SM Naruto beats that MS Sasuke. And also don't be that guy. We both know that MS Sasuke was in no condition to fight, he couldn't even use Susanoo that's why Zetsu & Obito had to come save him. He's lucky Kishi didn't have SM Naruto whoop dat *** . Lmao
 

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Nope, Sasuke clearly has his rinnegan activated before he attacked Naruto, Naruto punched him, and that's when it deactivated.
No. If his 3T eye deactivated, what makes you think the rinnegan would offer any power increase to Sasuke during that clash. It was closed.



Naruto was in a transformed state in that scan, not the same. He is clearly in base with just a drop of Kurama chakra. His base rasengan was evenly matched against Sharinnegan Sasuke's enhanced amaterasu chidori. It was two infused ninjutsu's vs one ninjutsu.
He couldn't transform because all of kurama's power was put in a single rasengan. After that he was put to sleep. :lmao:
 

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Right and I showed where in a scenario where Plot is not involved. (Strongest thing in NV considering it neg diffed Madara)

Pain Arc SM Naruto beats that MS Sasuke. And also don't be that guy. We both know that MS Sasuke was in no condition to fight, he couldn't even use Susanoo that's why Zetsu & Obito had to come save him. He's lucky Kishi didn't have SM Naruto whoop dat *** . Lmao

Ofcourse in this hypothetical battle we are talking about a full health Sasuke Vs Full Health Naruto.

Naruto feels he wasn't strong enough to defeat Sasuke during the Kage Summit arc. He didn't know Sasuke was severely weakened in that moment.

Anyway, without the Kyuubi's assistance at all, Sasuke easily wins with Genjutsu.
 

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Ofcourse in this hypothetical battle we are talking about a full health Sasuke Vs Full Health Naruto.

Naruto feels he wasn't strong enough to defeat Sasuke during the Kage Summit arc. He didn't know Sasuke was severely weakened in that moment.

Anyway, without the Kyuubi's assistance at all, Sasuke easily wins with Genjutsu.

Base Naruto yes. SM Naruto no
 

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First and foremost little boy, if you want to spout nonsense and say that Sasuke "stealing Bijuu chakra" and enhancing his Susano'O with the Bijuu chakra is a bad thing then I can easily say that it is even more poor that Naruto received advice from the Kyuubi while Sasuke had no one telling him what to do. If you can hop on what the op says and agree with him, but then turn around and get asshurt when I counter with the same principal then you are in fact the real fanboy here. Not me.

I don't care for your own sob story so you can save it. We wouldn't have to bring up the fact that Naruto received advice and help from the Kyubi if you didn't climb your way into this pitiful reasoning for Sasuke using the Bijuu as if that is actually bad. It's called being smart. No shit if he decided to capture the Bijuu, why else wouldn't he use it? How about you think for a minute instead of screaming your insecurities.

And second, how about you actually look at the thread instead of being so stupid. The op clearly started this mess, so I am not just going to act as if what he is saying is actually true.

Lastly, the rest of that post is just garbage. If in fact Naruto could simply just "shit on Sasuke" then their would be no need for him to go Bijuu mode just to block a simple fire jutsu or their would be no need for him to throw two Rasen-Shurikens to fend off against Sasuke's one arrow or their would be no need for Naruto to allow Kurama to gather so much nature energy just to tie with Sasuke.

The fact that you are even thinking that Naruto can just "shit on Sasuke" is laugh worthy when, if Naruto could just "shit on Sasuke" then they wouldn't have tied and Naruto wouldn't have lost his arm in the process of "shitting on Sasuke".

Naruto fanboys. I swear they have no ****ing sense.

Little boy? Really? Just scanning over the crap you put I'm not even gonna properly respond to what you put. Im not even sure why you got mad and started delving into insults. Doesnt matter cuz you sound like an idiot, next.
 

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And they both needed the sage to be alive so stfu everyone
 

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I Deny That.


This would have worked much better if i had been the first post, but oh well.
 

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Comparing an earlier arc Sasuke to a later arc Naruto in order to put Naruto above him, lol.

Without the Kyuubi's assisstance in any sort of way, Sasuke owns Naruto with Genjutsu easily.







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Sm naruto already has kyuubi so your point is invalid bud
 

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2v1 and Naruto still couldn't win, that's a fact.
 
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