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Oh? Well, I did say correct me if I'm wrong, because I wasn't sure. I'll need that page for future references, thanks. :p

Lol, if you need anything Tsunade, just ask.
I have them all.

My precioooous O_O

Lol, kiddin' xd
 

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She did create medical ninjutsu.

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i am sure medical ninjutsu has a history cause if tsunade herself created it then how come other village ninja can do it like raikage's bodyguard
surely konoha will go to extreme lengths to protect the secrets of medical ninjutsu cause its a huge advantage.
 

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i am sure medical ninjutsu has a history cause if tsunade herself created it then how come other village ninja can do it like raikage's bodyguard
surely konoha will go to extreme lengths to protect the secrets of medical ninjutsu cause its a huge advantage.

Well, she did create a system and then the others took it as an example.
Let's say something similar with Chuunin exams.
And well, the others know just basics like how to stop bleeding, but Tsunade is on another scale herself.
 

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1. Hashirama
2. Hiruzen
3. Minato
4. Tsunade
5. The short time when there wasn't a Hokage present
6. Tobirama

Don't know about 2 & 3 though, would say that Minato and Hiruzen share their place. Minato was also supposed to be a genius and the strongest Shinobi of his time. He developed the Rasengan, Hiraishin no Jutsu and most likely Dead Demon Seal. He also stopped the great ninja war.
 

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Hashiramatard you prove nothing, putting hiruzen higher than minato proves one thing you are pathetic
 

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"was" < "Are". o_O

This would be true if you were talking about Old hiruzen.

In his Prime he is hailed as "God of shinobi", "Was hailed as God of shinobi" only refers to Old hiruzen.

"Was" is simply being used to refer to the past tense (his prime state).
 

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This would be true if you were talking about Old hiruzen.

In his Prime he is hailed as "God of shinobi", "Was hailed as God of shinobi" only refers to Old hiruzen.

"Was" is simply being used to refer to the past tense (his prime state).

When the so called "god of shinobi" in his prime..

Isn't even hailed as one of the best shinobis of his village by the military (Anbu)... how can i consider that to be even true??

And when the so called "God of shinobi" in his prime couldn't even do as much as Onoki.... how can i consider him to be a god?
 

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1. Hashirama
2. Tsunade- as a Hokage, she had the most trouble. She re-builted the village after Orochimaru's attacks, Akatsuki, Pein, a war, Madara. She also created the medical ninjutsu, which saved hundreds of lives.
3. Tobirama
4. Minato and Hiruzen

I agree with you, Tsunade faced the worst adversity out of all, despite not being as strong as Hashirama or Hiruzen, he had an incredible perfomance in keeping people alive and protecting the village.
 

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When the so called "god of shinobi" in his prime..

Isn't even hailed as one of the best shinobis of his village by the military (Anbu)... how can i consider that to be even true??

And when the so called "God of shinobi" in his prime couldn't even do as much as Onoki.... how can i consider him to be a god?

So called? Both the First and second Databooks Prove this to be true.

You Take one Anbu's statement as Fact, Yet you question hiruzens, Why not question the Anbu's also?, Or is it just because the Anbu's statement goes towards what you believe.

Old Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 current Kages (Kabuto stated this after Oro's battle with him), This includes onoki, A, Mei, 3rd kazekage.
To even be considered as the strongest of the 5kages in his (as the Anbu/Oro/Emna said) "miserable state compared to his prime), is quite a feat.

Prime can't do what onoki as much as onoki?, I'm sorry when did we see him fight during his prime?. It doesn't matter if you don't consider him as a "God", Kishi does.
 
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Minato and Tobirama. Minato for saving the village from the nine tails and being the hero of the 3rd war, and Tobirama for building the villages infastructure.
 

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So called? Both the First and second Databooks Prove this to be true.

You Take one Anbu's statement as Fact, Yet you question hiruzens, Why not question the Anbu's also?, Or is it just because the Anbu's statement goes towards what you believe.

Old Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 current Kages (Kabuto stated this after Oro's battle with him), This includes onoki, A, Mei, 3rd kazekage.
To even be considered as the strongest of the 5kages in his (as the Anbu/Oro/Emna said) "miserable state compared to his prime), is quite a feat.

Prime can't do what onoki as much as onoki?, I'm sorry when did we see him fight during his prime?. It doesn't matter if you don't consider him as a "God", Kishi does.

Again, we go to the databooks.... Can't prove it by the manga??

Why question the Anbu.. They stated what is believed in the leaf.

Talking about the 69 year old guy who was called a "God" can't do much or even close to what Onoki did. He was forced to commit suicide. Or did i watch the wrong fight? . Kishi considers Pain a god.... SO6P a god.... man others Gods also.. so your point here is?

Is this is the best defense you people can give? "Databook says it".. or brining Kishi into everything. If your gonna use the databook , then i might as well use the Anime.

Anbu and Dan and Madara > Oro.

In the Databook it states the samething its stated in the Manga....
 

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Again, we go to the databooks.... Can't prove it by the manga??

Why question the Anbu.. They stated what is believed in the leaf.

Talking about the 69 year old guy who was called a "God" can't do much or even close to what Onoki did. He was forced to commit suicide. Or did i watch the wrong fight? . Kishi considers Pain a god.... SO6P a god.... man others Gods also.. so your point here is?

Is this is the best defense you people can give? "Databook says it".. or brining Kishi into everything. If your gonna use the databook , then i might as well use the Anime.

Anbu and Dan and Madara > Oro.

In the Databook it states the samething its stated in the Manga....

You do know what the databook are don't you?, Databooks are just as good as any manga scan, Databooks are writen by kishi himself.
Both the Databooks and the Manga call hiruzen "God of shinobi".

Why Question Iruka's statment, He was simply Stating was Leaf/possibility other shinobi outside the village believed.

You seem to forget the power scale difference between Part one and Part two, You also must understand Hiruzen (unlike onoki) Doesn't have the best medical nin in the world behind him and Old age affects people in a different ways.

Yes kishi Called Pain/Nagato/Sage as Gods, Look at how insanely overpowered they are, Hiruzen/nagato are the only people who have ever shared the title of "God" with the SO6P.

What to You expect from a 69 year old Kage who is far past his prime and in a "miserable state", Even in his Prime i doubt Hiruzen can defeat Both Edo hashirama and tobirama at the same time. You say it as Fighting Hashirama/Tobirama + Oro is a walk in the park.

Rarely do the Databooks contradict the Manga, As i've said the Databooks are just as good of a source as the Manga it's self.

Dan/Anbu > Oro? LOL.

You comparing Me bringing the offical Databooks that kishi makes, to ananime that kishi has almost nothing to do with is laughable.
 

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You do know what the databook are don't you?, Databooks are just as good as any manga scan, Databooks are writen by kishi himself.
Both the Databooks and the Manga call hiruzen "God of shinobi".
Why Question Iruka's statment, He was simply Stating was Leaf/possibility other shinobi outside the village believed.
You seem to forget the power scale difference between Part one and Part two, You also must understand Hiruzen (unlike onoki) Doesn't have the best medical nin in the world behind him and Old age affects people in a different ways.
Yes kishi Called Pain/Nagato/Sage as Gods, Look at how insanely overpowered they are, Hiruzen/nagato are the only people who have ever shared the title of "God" with the SO6P.
What to You expect from a 69 year old Kage who is far past his prime and in a "miserable state", Even in his Prime i doubt Hiruzen can defeat Both Edo hashirama and tobirama at the same time. You say it as Fighting Hashirama/Tobirama + Oro is a walk in the park.
Rarely do the Databooks contradict the Manga, As i've said the Databooks are just as good of a source as the Manga it's self.
Dan/Anbu > Oro? LOL.
You comparing Me bringing the offical Databooks that kishi makes, Compared to an anime that kishi has almost nothing to do with is laughable.


I do not care about the Databooks. I only read and watch the Naruto Series. If something needs to be proven by Kishi then it will be proven there.
Why am i question Iruka now.. even though i believed him in the past? Because of Madara uchiha and Dan.
NARUTO IS STILL NARUTO. Did kishimoto in his "Databooks" which you like to use say anything about a power scale difference?? no. Sorry But Onoki was being a beast before Tsunade even showed up.. lmaoo.. Dude Onoki is way older then Sarutobi.. lmao. Sarutobi was overpowered?? Wth are you talking about ?? He was a disgrace to the name "god".

Again using Age as a excuse.. The SO6P (God of shinobi).. at his end time split up the 10-tails.... That is a god. Not Sarutobi hiruzen.

Dude your "God of shinobi" was cornered to commit suicide in 5-6 chapters while the hokages were brainlessly toying with him.

Dan > Oro, Anbu (The current people who live in the village ) > Oro

Currently Hashirama and Tobirama are held as the best shinobis.

And where in the data book does it say " He is the strongest hokage"... or "He is the God of shinobi".... If your the strongest hokage and the god of shinobi.. that goes to your whole life... not just your prime.


And last time I checked we were talking about NARUTO the series.... not "Kishimoto's Personal NARUTO".
I hope you yourself the Manga isn't solely done by Kishimoto?? And Kishimoto has little to do with the anime?? aahhahaha joke right? I hope you do know Kishimoto gave away copyrights.... meaning he isn't the sole creator anymore. Anime needs to be approved by Kishimoto.
 

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I getting tired of this hiruzen is stronger than (insert name here)

just because he's called god of shinobi does mean he was that strong, that name could of came from the hope people saw in him,or the fact that he was trained by hashi, the fact that he was oldest reining hokage,maybe it's because he taught 3 of the strongest ninja, or maybe its just because hes wise.....

you dont see people overrating nagato because he was believed to be a real god.....but people overrate hiruzen because he was called god of shinobi......now that thats of my chest ima tell you that your list is wrong
 

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I do not care about the Databooks. I only read and watch the Naruto Series. If something needs to be proven by Kishi then it will be proven there.
Why am i question Iruka now.. even though i believed him in the past? Because of Madara uchiha and Dan.
NARUTO IS STILL NARUTO. Did kishimoto in his "Databooks" which you like to use say anything about a power scale difference?? no. Sorry But Onoki was being a beast before Tsunade even showed up.. lmaoo.. Dude Onoki is way older then Sarutobi.. lmao. Sarutobi was overpowered?? Wth are you talking about ?? He was a disgrace to the name "god".

Again using Age as a excuse.. The SO6P (God of shinobi).. at his end time split up the 10-tails.... That is a god. Not Sarutobi hiruzen.

Dude your "God of shinobi" was cornered to commit suicide in 5-6 chapters while the hokages were brainlessly toying with him.

Dan > Oro, Anbu (The current people who live in the village ) > Oro

Currently Hashirama and Tobirama are held as the best shinobis.

And where in the data book does it say " He is the strongest hokage"... or "He is the God of shinobi".... If your the strongest hokage and the god of shinobi.. that goes to your whole life... not just your prime.


And last time I checked we were talking about NARUTO the series.... not "Kishimoto's Personal NARUTO".
I hope you yourself the Manga isn't solely done by Kishimoto?? And Kishimoto has little to do with the anime?? aahhahaha joke right? I hope you do know Kishimoto gave away copyrights.... meaning he isn't the sole creator anymore. Anime needs to be approved by Kishimoto.

Again you only show your ignorance, The Databooks are made by Kishi. Databooks > You opinion.
Kishi Proves Things in Both the Manga and the Databooks, Both are vaid souces since he himself writes them, This is Fact.

I've already told you why dan's statement isn't Fact but his own opinion, You just take every little thing aslong as it goes towards your own Biased View on the manga.

Your pathetic arguments get weaker and weaker, Hiruzen is stated to be Far weaking Because of his old age (manga fact).

Again, Everyone in the leaf During his prime/Other shinobi/Oro Called Hiruzen a God and the strongest hokage. You're completely Biased and i'm not your if you have understanding issues.
As i said, Both the First and second Databooks back the Manga up by Him being called "God of shinobi" "Said to of been the strongest hokage. If you cannot accept this then thats your problem.

In the Manga kishi's words are final. He is the creator of the manga/Databooks, Fan opinions mean nothing. Kishi writes/Draws the manga he says what Goes into it, he says what is done/said.

The anime has many many inaccuracies that the manga never did

Quick example
tobirama using bringer of darkness against hiruzem, when in actual fact it was hashirama.
Kakashi using Hidden mist tech against Itachi in the anime, When he never did in the manga

The anime Gives characters jutsu's they never had in the manga. Kishi isn't the sole creator of the Anime, But he is on the manga.
Manga/Anime are two completely different thing.

You disagree with kishi because it doesn't go against your fanboy wishes, Stop being so bone idle and get it in your thick skull.

Kishi + Databooks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You.

I'm done with you.
 
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Again you only show your ignorance, The Databooks are made by Kishi. Databooks > You opinion.
Kishi Proves Things in Both the Manga and the Databooks, Both are vaid souces since he himself writes them, This is Fact.
I've already told you why dan's statement isn't Fact but his own opinion, You just take every little thing aslong as it goes towards your own Biased View on the manga.
Your pathetic arguments get weaker and weaker, Hiruzen is stated to be Far weaking Because of his old age (manga fact).
Again, Everyone in the leaf During his prime/Other shinobi/Oro Called Hiruzen a God and the strongest hokage. You're completely Biased and i'm not your if you have understanding issues.
As i said, Both the First and second Databooks back the Manga up by Him being called "God of shinobi" "Said to of been the strongest hokage. If you cannot accept this then thats your problem.
In the Manga kishi's words are final. He is the creator of the manga/Databooks, Fan opinions mean nothing. Kishi writes/Draws the manga he says what Goes into it, he says what is done/said.
The anime has many many inaccuracies that the manga never did
Quick example
tobirama using bringer of darkness against hiruzem, when in actual fact it was hashirama.
Kakashi using Hidden mist tech against Itachi in the anime, When he never did in the manga
The anime Gives characters jutsu's they never had in the manga. Kishi isn't the sole creator of the Anime, But he is on the manga.
Manga/Anime are two completely different thing.

Manga : Kishimoto, His team and his editor. o_O. Not solely kishi.

Ok. time to break this down. And btw why are you BRINGING THE DATABOOKS IN WHEN THEY SAY THE SAME EXACT THING AS THE MANGA.. LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO?!!!!! DID It say anything about Hashirama having medical ninjutsu?? no. why? because its not stated in the Manga.

Databook is based off of the manga.. and its also by Kishimoto and his team and the editor.

And that just showed that Tobirama is also capable of using that tech.
And Kakashi using the technique is inconsistent how?? just cause its not shown its inconsistent ?

Lets go on to breaking it down:

You believe Sarutobi is the strongest.. because of his nicknames but not by the power he showed.

I believe he isn't the strongest because a high jounin level ninja cancelled his hype as hailed "As the God of Shinobi".
And your best defense to that was "Dan never saw their powers". Well Did the people who called Hiruzen the God of shinobi see Hashirama and Madara's power? Cause so far its above what Sarutobi showed..



Last but not least.. believing Kishimoto is the sole creator of Naruto and what he draws and says is the final thing... is showing your unknown side of how a manga works...
 

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I do not care about the Databooks. I only read and watch the Naruto Series. If something needs to be proven by Kishi then it will be proven there.

Databooks are written by Kishimoto, so they are reliable, I don't know what you're talking about. There are things that can't be put in the manga so he adds them in the databooks.
 

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Databooks are written by Kishimoto, so they are reliable, I don't know what you're talking about. There are things that can't be put in the manga so he adds them in the databooks.

The characters analysis aka shinobi cards are based directly from the manga. o_O. No need to bring them up. While talking about who is the strongest. And Kishimoto and his editors do the Databooks.
 
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