[Theory] the mysterious man's connection with the man inside spiral zetsu

minamoto

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I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-the Mysterious man standing in front of Sasuke might have an idea who the man inside spiral zetsu is :

befor i tell you why...i want to say that THE CHAPTERS ARE LINKED AND CONNECTED IN A LOGICAL CONSEQUENCE SO :

1- chapter 601 : we have the mystery of "the insides" ..........the white zetsu told madara :" the insides ar surprisingly good"...then in another panel he said : " THOSE on the verge of death needs a right away treatment.." (refering to the insides)....so they are inside some1 else..

2-in chapter 602 : after his long absence , we see the spiral zetsu appearing suddenly in the manga not only that but also SOMEONE ELSE
seems to be wearing it...

3-in chapter 603 : we see a mysterious man standing in front of sasuke !!!!!........

-now you might have wondred why kishi brought 2 mysteries at the same time right?....its becuz the mysterious man will be the one to reveal who is inisde the spiral zetsu !!!...

1-who are the "INSIDES".........answer : they are the spiral zetsu + the man inside him..........

2- they were inside who?......they were inside obito's body since Rin's death....if you noticed well the ressemblence between the spiral zetsu 's character and the goofy tobi's....the spiral zetsu was the goofy tobi..

4- who is the mysterious man = its KABUTO YAKUSHI i tell you why :

a)-Tobirama didn't see the mysterious man becuz the latter was within fog of sand
b) tobirama couldn't sence the mysterious man's chakra or recognize him due to those chakra rodes weakning him
c) Karin couldn't recognize kabuto's chakra becuz orochimaru absorbed his snake chakra from kabuto
d)in the panel where they showed the mysterious man's chakra = it looks like SENJUTSU !
e) karin never said its an evil chakra..but she just had bad feeling due to that great reserve of chakra coming from the mysterious man!!
f) kabuto could have gotten that great reserve of chakra via his senjutsu mode wich is a NEW TYPE OF CHAKRA FOR KARIN TO RECOGNIZE !!!
g)kishimoto gave us a major hint of the mysterious man's being kabuto wich is his barefeet..then kishi will do his best to not allow us
think its actually kabuto..
h) kabuto was one of the strongest ninja after the death of oro , so i wont be surprised if he had that great amount of chakra ..
g) itachi left kabuto for a reason...thats becuz he knew kabuto was a nice guy who turned evil becuz of the shinobi's system...and now
that kabuto escaped izanami that means he is a nice guy now and will definitly heal sasuke and even give him senjutsu chakra..kabuto was the one who resurected madara and cuzed all these casualities...now he will do his best to reddem himself...
i) Madara will be surpised how all of those villains : Nagato, obito,kabuto (who are supposed to be madara's allies) deceived him and joined the alliance shinobi's side..
j) kishimoto now is preparing for the PAWNS who will DIE and sacrify themselves for the allied shinobies :KABUTO AND OBITO...while in my opinion i dont think they dizerve to die...maybe sakura should die and tsunade and onoki...


-the connection between kabuto and the man inside spiral zetsu..

-i know!! first thing you gonna say is that kabuto will recognize the man inside spiral zetsu as being "yamato" ...but NOOOOOO..

-who is inside spiral zetsu??......the one inside spiral zetsu is the archaic ancient body of Madara OR the empty shell of madara OR the 2nd madara OR simply madara = there are 2 Madara's runing around....

PLZZ SEE EPISODE 221 ITS A VERY IMPORTANT EPISODE !!

-when kabuto met tobi and showed him the 6th coffin wich contains Edo-madara...Tobi was chocked (not afraid)...and said :"where did you get THAT?!!"....its as if the contains of the 6th coffin is something that belongs to the masked man tobi !!!

-then episode 221 kabuto told tobi : " i expect no less from uchiha madara,your VESSEL IS UNIQUE!!" (refering to edo-madara)

wtf?!..so the revived Madara is THE REALL VESSEL OF TOBI !!! = a shocking truth !!!!...

-if edomadara or better said rikudo Madara is the vessel of tobi...then who is tobi??.....ahhaa good kestion !...the masked man himself gave us the answer during the 5 kages summit when he said : " I AM JUST AN EMPTY SHELL OF MY FORMSER SELF(madara)"....ahhaa
that means tobi is indeed Madara but in another weaker vessel (obito) !!!...

-during fight tobi vs Konan..though Konan does know tobi as madara ,but she did ask him again : "who the hell are you??"..
the masked man said "i am uchiha madara , i am the 2nd rikudo, i was the one who fought hashirama"...DID YOU NOTICE HOW TOBI IS PROUD AND ARROGANT OF HIMSELF BEING MADARA?!...why would tobi lie to konan when he was sure of her death?....didnt tobi tell konan : "since you are ABOUT TO DIE,i wil tell you THE TRUTH : i was the one who SPURRED YAHIKO TO FORM AKATSUKI, i was the one who GAVE NAGATO THE RINNEGAN"...

-Now lets go back to kabuto....many of us think that the secret kabuto knew about tobi..that he was an imposter who pretended to be Madara and that kabuto blackmailed tobi....BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!..

-the secret that kabuto knew about tobi is that that tobi is the empty shell of madara who using some1 as his weaker vessel (obito) controlling him!! ......kabuto wanted to know who tobimadara is controlling = obito ignored the obito part in tobi..

-notice well how the masked man kept telling kabuto that he was the one who fought hashirama and stole his cells and that nagato's rinnegan was his to begin with ..despit kabuto already knowing the secret of tobi..


- how did kabuto knew that tobi is madara ???

-this part is the core of unkown mystery of tobi.....go back to chapter 560 when edomadara told kabuto " you bastard , the SECRETS OF MY BODY!!..some1 like who who can't even read them how did you deciphered them?"....

-honestly i dont know what exactly are those secrets : but they could be that madara's body can be rejuveniled if its REVIVED PROPERLY WITH rinnetensei....and if its revived through rinnetensei that doesn't mean that madara was dead..but instead madara was still alive but just as an EMPTY SHELL OF HIS FORMERSELF....its exactly the same case with the 9 bijuus and gedo mazo...they are both juubi...it means 2 juubis exist at the same time..the gedomazo is the empty shell of Juubi so when the Gedo mazo goes back to its formerself, it will become the revived juubi...it will become COMPLETE!!...didnt tobi tell kakashi he wanted to become complete??

-if you noticed well edomadara or rikudo madara in the manga...he treats himself as "a body" rather then calling himself uchiha madara
its like something is missing in him, i mean his true personality ,his other part...

-if you noticed hwo the masked man spent some of his time sitting on the giant statue of madara in the valley of end = its as if the masked man missed his original form and body "Madara"..

-itachi deciphred madara's body secret engraved in the uchiha stone + read the document of uchiha and knows the seals of his ancestor..thats how itachi found out tobi to be Madara...

-kisame saw the reall face of the real masked man (not obito's) and called him madara = Kisame saw the face of the man who is inside spiral zetsu !!!!..
- go back to chapter 597 and notice well obito's right arm..there's a portion of humain flesh !!!!!...thats our mysterious man madara !!!...
when the juubi was extracted from obito's body that portion of flesh disapppeared...then ooops we suddenly see spiral zetsu and a man inside of him appearing in the few next chapters ...

-why did the masked man laught when he saw the contains of the 6th coffin(edomadara)?
tobimadara laughted at kabuto's ignorance becuz kabuto is unawar that edomadara knows the seal how to stop edotensei and can break free...so while waiting for edomadara to break free from edotensei, tobidara will take advantage of kabuto's ignorance and use him to win the ninja war...

-anyway i hope Kabuto will play big role in revealing the identity of the man inside spiral zetsu
 

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The mystery man being kabuto makes sense I agree on that. But Kisame has never seen the actual face of Madara. So how can he distinguish between Obito and Madara. ?
 

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damn its good i didnt wanna read i hope its kabuto aswel......but the part of two madaras thats just......
 

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Rofl, you didn't understand that scene, like at all. I agree that mysterious man is Kabuto, but Tobi was Obito. There is only 1 Madara..
 

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Didn't read.

Posts like these are against the rules. Letting you know, man.

@OP
It would help if used the actual manga panels in your theory. .-.
 

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makes seance bro.
 

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maybe just maybe it made sense though.
 

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The least I can say is that you really put some effort for the unlearned people to believe.

First, Kabuto may be the mysterious man. Yet, I can tell you that Kabuto did not create the war. Kabuto wanted Sasuke, and if it is him right now, I can guarantee his is as evil as Karin sensed. Characters like Kabuto have so much potential that you cannot destroy them just by Izanami. Moreover, I think it will be cheap for Kishi to make Kabuto be defeated by Izanami. The reason is that when a rule is given in a story, and the target is forgotten for many chapters, it does not make any twist to bring the target back defeated. Specifically, this is true for every target that refused to accept such rule after a lengthy explanation from the user of the technique. What makes sense is that Kabuto discover the flaw from Itachi's explanation. Moreover, you need to understand that Kabuto knows Itachi is a liar just as every genjutsus are lies.

On Madara, his will was given to Black Zetsu. I also think sometimes that Obito never got separated from the Zetsu who controlled his body, but still, Madara was dead and he did not use any weaker version of him apart from Balck Zetsu. Everything Tobi said was lies or recitation of what Madara told him. It is also known that Yahiko created Akatsuki from scratch. Tobi took over only after Yahiko's death.
 

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The least I can say is that you really put some effort for the unlearned people to believe.

First, Kabuto may be the mysterious man. Yet, I can tell you that Kabuto did not create the war. Kabuto wanted Sasuke, and if it is him right now, I can guarantee his is as evil as Karin sensed. Characters like Kabuto have so much potential that you cannot destroy them just by Izanami. Moreover, I think it will be cheap for Kishi to make Kabuto be defeated by Izanami. The reason is that when a rule is given in a story, and the target is forgotten for many chapters, it does not make any twist to bring the target back defeated. Specifically, this is true for every target that refused to accept such rule after a lengthy explanation from the user of the technique. What makes sense is that Kabuto discover the flaw from Itachi's explanation. Moreover, you need to understand that Kabuto knows Itachi is a liar just as every genjutsus are lies.

On Madara, his will was given to Black Zetsu. I also think sometimes that Obito never got separated from the Zetsu who controlled his body, but still, Madara was dead and he did not use any weaker version of him apart from Balck Zetsu. Everything Tobi said was lies or recitation of what Madara told him. It is also known that Yahiko created Akatsuki from scratch. Tobi took over only after Yahiko's death.

thx for your comment bro so i will give you my answer wich is of course just my opinion :
-i think itachi could defeat kabuto if he wanted...itachi needed to capture kabuto alive to stop edotensei that is why the battle lasted long..

-the fight between kabuto and itachi was also battle of principles ....kabuto wasn't defeated as you think on the contrary he won , becuz itachi made him realize who he is...in the same way naruto made obito realize who he is (damn its talk no jutsu!!)....

-kabuto and obito and nagato are all naruto versions gone wrong : thats why these type of villains get talknojutsed easily and become good characters again..

-madara and orochimaru are the ones who created these naruto versions gone wrong : these category of villllains are immune to talk no jutsu and can be the final villains

-i like the character of kabuto..but he isn't a smart villain....kabuto's biggest mistake was when he ressurected Madara and itachi...
kabuto resurected the ones who stopped his edotensei and cauzed his defeat....kabuto underestimated madara a lot and thought madara can't break free from edotensei...one basic rule in a smart villain : never ressurect some1 when you dont have much info about him...
for exemple oro had dna of madara but never dared ressurect him....also how can you resurect some 1 who has an ultimate plan of erasing reality?..kabuto's plan and goal makes sence only in reality...thus madara himself is a threat to kabuto's plan....maybe kabuto said in himself : " i will make use of madara... untill i dont need him i will stop his edotensei".....but sadly all of these backfired

as for tobi being madara...i know you will not belive me ....but obito or better said tobi is uchiha madara...when i say madara its not some clone or black zetsu shitt..but its the empty shelll of madra....its the second madara...the central villain is the one who becomes the final villain...the maskedman is still the final villain..but since the masked man is madara this explains hy madara is both the central and finall villain...the black zetsu is just madara's most trusted pawn...i mean its as if madara can't entrust hashirama's clones 100% but can only entrust on his black zetsu will ....
 

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Didnt you post this theory some time ago already?
 

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have you posted this twice? also it makes sense, i guess?
 
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