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It's got nothing to do with his Sharingan, are you serious? All the Sharingan does is this:

  • The first of the Sharingan's powers is being able to see the flow of chakra.
  • The Sharingan itself gives colour to chakra, allowing the wielder to differentiate them.
  • They are also able to tell if a person is under a genjutsu because the person's chakra flow would be irregular. The Sharingan's second-most prominent ability grants the user an incredible clarity of perception, allowing them to easily recognise genjutsu and different forms of chakra, though not to the same extent as the Byakugan. This also allows the user to pick up on subtle details, enabling them to read lip movements or mimic something like pencil movements.

These abilities didn't contribute heavily to his analysis of Chibaku Tensei. Sure the Sharingan may have allowed him to perceive the Chibaku Tensei slightly better than everyone else, but if you disregard that his analysis could have been done completely on his own, without the use of the Sharingan.
in part one it was shown that the sharingan slows down what the wielder sees(during the battle with haku sasuske after obtaining the sharingan could read hakus moves,when sasuke obtained the 3rd tomoe sasuke could read 1tailed narutos moves. lee stated that even if the sharingan lets you read your oponents move you need to be physically capable to dodge them) just trying to show you that sharingan does help with seeing a foes moves
 

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in part one it was shown that the sharingan slows down what the wielder sees(during the battle with haku sasuske after obtaining the sharingan could read hakus moves,when sasuke obtained the 3rd tomoe sasuke could read 1tailed narutos moves. lee stated that even if the sharingan lets you read your oponents move you need to be physically capable to dodge them) just trying to show you that sharingan does help with seeing a foes moves

:sy: I already stated that in my post, I'm just saying that Itachi could have done it without his Sharingan. I'm not denying the Sharingan helped him... U_U
 

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So much Itachi wanking

Shikaku is the smartest then Shikamaru in terms of overall IQ.

Shikamaru has the potential to surpass Shikaku and be the smartest in Narutoverse because he is so young!

But another person people overlook is Orochimaru!!! That guy was a genius

A lot of ppl overlook him because his intelligence is beyond their understanding.
 

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These abilities didn't contribute heavily to his analysis of Chibaku Tensei. Sure the Sharingan may have allowed him to perceive the Chibaku Tensei slightly better than everyone else, but if you disregard that his analysis could have been done completely on his own, without the use of the Sharingan.
in part one it was shown that the sharingan slows down what the wielder sees(during the battle with haku sasuske after obtaining the sharingan could read hakus moves,when sasuke obtained the 3rd tomoe sasuke could read 1tailed narutos moves. lee stated that even if the sharingan lets you read your oponents move you need to be physically capable to dodge them) just trying to show you that sharingan does help with seeing a foes moves

Sharingan allows the person to predict movements and thus keep up with people better..

WTH does that have to do with chibaku tensei?
 
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:sy: I already stated that in my post, I'm just saying that Itachi could have done it without his Sharingan. I'm not denying the Sharingan helped him... U_U
no you didnt you said it reads chakra flow and chakra flow and physical movement were two complete different things last time i checked P.S y u getting angry:sy:
 

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I would say Minato but we haven't seen enough from him, so probably Itachi.
 

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damn that was alot i still give it to shikamaru and his dad though
 

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people say itachi is smart cause he planned out sasukes future and shit but minato took it to a even farther level by predicting that tobi was gonna be a big threat in the future and put half the nine tails inside naruto thinking he would grow up and surpass him and stop tobi himself its yet to happen but looks like its about to since tobi and naruto are fighting now.

Who else could predict that 16 years from a day that a just born infant is gonna end up surpassing him and fighting the man he fought those 16 years ago. in hopes that he will defeat him.

Not only that but minato is the fastest ive seen at analyzing peoples strengths and weakness even better then itachi himself at it.

1# minato did not predicted nothing, he just remembered that jiraya told him about a what will happen in the future.

2# Minato knew what was going to happend in the future not because he found it out but because a profecy that says so but honestly minato just gamble things up, he just did the smartest gamble naruto is the main character so nothing will happen to him. lol.

3# he was lucky that for not reason tobi dint come back to kidnap naruto after minato die, he was not smart enough to leave a clue about tobi to hiruzen or someone...(plot no jutsu dindt allow tobi to come back)..

torune and fuu got the same conclusion and i dont think they are as smart as minato. the only different is that they dint have the speed..

Konan was the one who really find out tobi abilities in details, all minato did was get into a obvius conclusion!! that even a retarded would get.

Attacked him but went ghost, turned off ghost and attacked me, wow to simple i have to attack him faster before he goes ghost.. brilliant!

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Look this guys went to the same conclusion as minato, because it was danm obvious!!
 
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no you didnt you said it reads chakra flow and chakra flow and physical movement were two complete different things last time i checked P.S y u getting angry:sy:

The sharingan never helped him with chibaku tensei because there is nothing that the sharingan is capable of doing that could have helped him in that situation..

Movement prediction, chakra flow etc plays no part in what he did..

 

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There you go my friend, Kakashi saying that he's as smart as shika..

Which is why I believe each and every one of you are overating his abilities... He's not shikaku yet...Right now at 16 he's on part with geniuses like kakashi, minato etc.. in terms of being analytical and strategical...

However they surpasss him in terms of pure knowledge... Of jutsu, history etc.. since they're older...

This is why shikimaru only compares when it comes to being strategical... And that's only 1 part of intelligence

Thanks for the scan, however, it's obviously based off of your interpretation, as this guy states:

Not disagreeing in any way but i would just like to point out kakashi said he has a brain like shika(analytical brain) not necessarily equal. I would say shika might be more creative in strategical terms but kakashi is more creative in ninjutsu creation, usage terms. The topic is so vague because of broad viewpoint to look from

In my opinion, what he says here makes perfect sense. The keyword in what Kakashi said was the word "like". It's similar. I could say that a really smart kid in my class has a brain "like" Einstein, but I wouldn't be saying that he's smarter. They just think alike and are both immersed in a similar subject in which they excel. So I stick by my belief that Shikamaru is a smarter tactician than Kakashi. If you read the rest of my post (which you haven't actually commented on...) then you would realize my overall point. Shikamaru is the second best tactician/strategist (behind his father). However, Itachi is the best thinker, philosopher, whatever. Itachi understands right and wrong and why people do what they do better than everyone else, so he has more intelligence in that field.
 

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The sharingan never helped him with chibaku tensei because there is nothing that the sharingan is capable of doing that could have helped him in that situation..

Movement prediction, chakra flow etc plays no part in what he did..


Thank you, Owarij U_U
 

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Thanks for the scan, however, it's obviously based off of your interpretation, as this guy states:



In my opinion, what he says here makes perfect sense. The keyword in what Kakashi said was the word "like". It's similar. I could say that a really smart kid in my class has a brain "like" Einstein, but I wouldn't be saying that he's smarter. They just think alike and are both immersed in a similar subject in which they excel. So I stick by my belief that Shikamaru is a smarter tactician than Kakashi. If you read the rest of my post (which you haven't actually commented on...) then you would realize my overall point. Shikamaru is the second best tactician/strategist (behind his father). However, Itachi is the best thinker, philosopher, whatever. Itachi understands right and wrong and why people do what they do better than everyone else, so he has more intelligence in that field.


You think shikimaru is the 2nd best strategic person.. but he isn't .. kakashi also displayed many strategies and analytical ability.. we see that in his fight with deva path pein and his 5 second cd time on his jutsu...

Like in that case is simply the linking words to the two comparisons..
He may not be exactly like shikimaru but he has to be awfully close...

If my pencil is like yours, we either have the same pencil, or one with a LITTLE difference otherwise the pencils aren't alike.. other than the fact that they both can be used to write...

What kakashi is comparing is his strategical ability and shikimaru;s... nothing else... shika hasn't shown intelligence in any other fields to make a comparison with.... and Kakashi is saying he is just as good as shikimaru when it comes to making strategies..

Currently in a class so i'll reply when I get a better chance
 

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Well intelligence means many things. Yes Itach is incredible observant and uses his observation skills to quickly deduce the enemy attacks, but Minato did just as fast with Tobi, or Kakashi was helping Naruto fight against Tobi, figured out that Tobi isn't using rinnegans abilities because it took a lot of chakra to control the tailed beast's.

I think you're a die hard Itachi fan, which is fine, I like Itachi too, but there are people in the narutoverse just as smart or if not smarter then Itachi.
 

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One thing I'd like to point out is that he became an Anbu Captain at age 13. Kakashi became a Jōnin at the age of 13, so technically Itachi was his boss

Just to make clear, the ANBU has no power over the jounin. As a matter of fact, as Kakashi has shown many times in the series, he can command ANBU members himself, such as when he set up a defense for Sasuke.

ANBU Captains can only command ANBU members. They have no power over the rest of the village. They're just there to protect it.
 

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Lots of smart characters listed here, top few being Shikamauru, his pops, Minato and Itachi. As for the the argument in the original topic, Shikamaru is more intelligent Itachi is more skilled.

Personality has a lot to due with achievements, Shikamaru is notoriously lazy and unmotivated in comparison to other intelligent characters.
 

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You think shikimaru is the 2nd best strategic person.. but he isn't .. kakashi also displayed many strategies and analytical ability.. we see that in his fight with deva path pein and his 5 second cd time on his jutsu...

Like in that case is simply the linking words to the two comparisons..
He may not be exactly like shikimaru but he has to be awfully close...

If my pencil is like yours, we either have the same pencil, or one with a LITTLE difference otherwise the pencils aren't alike.. other than the fact that they both can be used to write...

What kakashi is comparing is his strategical ability and shikimaru;s... nothing else... shika hasn't shown intelligence in any other fields to make a comparison with.... and Kakashi is saying he is just as good as shikimaru when it comes to making strategies..

Currently in a class so i'll reply when I get a better chance

I know that Kakashi has displayed high abilities in those fields, and he is certainly one of the smartest characters in the manga. But I go by feats. I don't go by what characters say, because there is bias, and there are cases where one does not know the full extent of the other's power. And if feats are anything to go by, then I would say Shikamaru is smarter than Kakashi. Especially since that scan is from near the beginning of Shipudden, and Shikamaru has certainly shown more mental prowess since that time as well. So even if Kakashi were as smart as Shikamaru back then (which I'll admit is a possibility) I'd still say that since then, Shikamaru has continued to improve is mental abilities since then, and has surpassed Kakashi to become the second best strategist behind only his dad (who I believe Shikamaru will surpass due to the whole theme of the new generation surpassing the old). Enjoy your class!
 

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Well, you certainly made some good points. Shikamaru doesn't take peoples feelings into account while Itachi does...those can both be good or bad. Anywho, Itachi is a better thinker, like you said, but what about Shikaku???
 

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Are you saying Itachi's better just because he has a wider range of jutsus?
 

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1# minato did not predicted nothing, he just remembered that jiraya told him about a what will happen in the future.

Minato infact predicted that his son will the the savior jiraiya was talking about.

2# Minato knew what was going to happend in the future not because he found it out but because a profecy that says so but honestly minato just gamble things up, he just did the smartest gamble naruto is the main character so nothing will happen to him. lol.

Ofc he was TOLD about the prophecy so he didnt predict it,but the prophecy didnt relate to him or naruto, so all he did was his own decision, so the credit goes to him,not to the prophecy maker. Moreover,you yourself accepted that minato did the smartest gamble.

3# he was lucky that for not reason tobi dint come back to kidnap naruto after minato die, he was not smart enough to leave a clue about tobi to hiruzen or someone...(plot no jutsu dindt allow tobi to come back)..

Tobi hadnt gone for a walk that naruto was lucky that tobi didnt return back. Tobi was badly injured & probably went for an MRI scan & surgery....it was only logical that he shouldnt show up near kyubi because the kyubi would attack tobi as tobi had captured him. As far as telling hiruzen about tobi,it was a plot no jutsu so that tobi's presence during kurama attack is not known by anyone else,because he could've told about tobi to the toad he had summoned to give key to naruto's seal.

torune and fuu got the same conclusion and i dont think they are as smart as minato. the only different is that they dint have the speed..

torune & fuu just found out about his tangeability.....whereas minato was able to analyze,but also devise a plan to counter that & wound tobi.

Konan was the one who really find out tobi abilities in details, all minato did was get into a obvius conclusion!! that even a retarded would get.

konan was in akatsuki,ie alongside tobi for too many months, whereas minato had to face tobi without any info on him, konan had no worry of surroundings so could use full destructive attacks while minato had to worry about the village as well as kyubi,yet minato did more damage to tobi than konan, & you still think konan was better ?

Attacked him but went ghost, turned off ghost and attacked me, wow to simple i have to attack him faster before he goes ghost.. brilliant!

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Look this guys went to the same conclusion as minato, because it was danm obvious!!

not only faster,but smarter.As I said earlier,those 2 just analyzed about tobi's tangeability, whereas minato not only analysed it,but also found its weakness,devised a plan to counter it, & the most importantly, had the ability to do it successfully without even trading the blows.
 
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