The most hated character of NV. Warning: Long thread (but i think its a good read)

[Penguin]

also im disagree with part about kage summit... samurai just protect kages from terrorist.

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OT: Sakura is the most hated while Sasuke has the weirdest fanboys.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

The whole point about being good is to "not fight fire with fire" and defeat your opponents with justice or just desserts. See, despite the whole "special chakra manifesting itself inside the optic nerves taking over the emotions", certain Uchiha defeated this emotion-blurring curse. Certain smart and wise Uchiha. You would think, despite the intellect and understanding of hardship Sasuke knows, he would put aside MORE hardship for both him and the acquaintances of the target to just let it go, be better than that, and rebuild stronger.

But that just didn't happen for him and he wished to do morally unjust decisions. Sasuke stepped in the right direction when he chose to help the SA out, but how long will this last?

Not exactly. Sasuke had far more of a burden than Itachi or Shisui or Kagami. He had the burden of Itachi's decision as Itachi made this decision to protect him, he had the burden of his entire family's death and his brothers isolation. He even says to Itachi that he should have just killed him at 7 years. Psychologically, far more disturbing than anything we've seen from any other character. I do agree though, Sasuke's decision ultimately felt shallow (as he had a defined set of moral guidelines up until then that he abandoned much too quickly) but it was within a reasonable circumstance.

 

[Fodder#4]

I don't believe he is the most hated character; But he does get a lot of shit. While I do sometimes bash him for his thinking, when you look into his reasoning and all. . It's not all that outlandish for him to be doing these things.

 

[AGoodBoy]

yea, he's the most hated but at least he isn't the worst.


That title goes to that ******, cleptomaniac, beta panzy. Commonly known as: Obito

 

[Keimil]

You can't possibly be saying naruto is smart at all..


Don't you think it's unfair to label sasuke's revenge with the uchiha curse, he has legit reasons for it and it's not easy to forgive people for killing your family, but these people didn't even apologize so how could he forgive them if they don't admit being wrong in the first place?

This exactly, and thanks!

That's true, but Sakura approached him because she wanted to kill him. She didnt decide to kill him when she arrived at the place, it was the very reason why she went there, thats why its self defense, same goes for Kakashi. As for the samurai, he warned them not to attack him because he only wanted to kill Danzo, maybe he couldve just knocked them out, but this was easier and still understandable. The konoha/akatsuki stuff is in the thread.

Sakura was there to kill him, yes she was... but even when she got the chance to kill him, she backed down, she realized she wasn't able to do it, her feelings didn't allowed it, how the killing strike to her back could be considered legit self-defense since she hadn't made a move yet?
You forgot to mention the destroying Konoha part, why would he destroy every single person in Konoha when only some of them had the fault of what happened to his brother and family?? That is evil behavior, there is no excuse.
What about Karin? He was going to murder in cold blood right after she saved her life and helped him during the battle with Danzou, he acted so ungrateful... there in no way to defend his actions...

 

[Fireplay]

Sakura is the most hated. Sasuke isn't hated. It's the Sasuke fanboys that are hated. I agree with some things you said but some of your points are invalid though.

 

[VolatileSoul]

. sasuke isht smarter than naruto ( attack on kages and bee show his stupidity) and sasuke very naive ( international terrorist serious think about hokage seat, lolololol)

I wouldn't use the attack on the Kage summit to show stupidity. What happened at the Kage summit happened because Zetsu sold him out. The plan would have worked otherwise. It wasn't very smart to attack someone you know very little about except that they have a powerful monster that gives them power, hold back against them, and do this while you are injured though. If Gaara can become Kazekage after he murdered his own villagers for the lulz, the Sasuke becoming hokage isn't that far fetched. Worse if he intends to take control by force.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Sakura has almost no fans, while Sasuke's fans call him ''Lord''. He's not hated, since people put him top 10 almost everytime and Sakura is hardly in top 30. If you were here when Neji died, you wouldn't had posted this thread. Look at the most hated anime characters, Sakura is either #1 or #2.

 

[SabakuNoGaaraOVZ]

Sakura has almost no fans, while Sasuke's fans call him ''Lord''. He's not hated, since people put him top 10 almost everytime and Sakura is hardly in top 30. If you were here when Neji died, you wouldn't had posted this thread. Look at the most hated anime characters, Sakura is either #1 or #2.

I'm not talking about the amount of fans, in that case you'd be right, sakura has almost 0 fans and sasuke's got enough, I'm talking about the amount of haters. Also, people rank these characters by power, when sasuke gets in top 10 it means that people think he's strong and not that they like him. Sakura is weak, thats why she gets in the top 30 (and theres still people that think that her recent powerup made her on par with sasuke/naruto) not because people hate her. But what about the time when neji died, what happened, people hated on him or something?

Sakura is the most hated. Sasuke isn't hated. It's the Sasuke fanboys that are hated. You make alot of sense though.

Thanks, and thats a good point, although it often looks like they hate sasuke instead of the fanboys when they make sasuke is emo threads or bash him in other threads, but you might be right.

Sakura was there to kill him, yes she was... but even when she got the chance to kill him, she backed down, she realized she wasn't able to do it, her feelings didn't allowed it, how the killing strike to her back could be considered legit self-defense since she hadn't made a move yet?
You forgot to mention the destroying Konoha part, why would he destroy every single person in Konoha when only some of them had the fault of what happened to his brother and family?? That is evil behavior, there is no excuse.
What about Karin? He was going to murder in cold blood right after she saved her life and helped him during the battle with Danzou, he acted so ungrateful... there in no way to defend his actions...

1) You're not saying that Sasuke was supposed to wait for her to make her move right? He was onto her and thats why made his move. He knew that even if she wasnt gonna make a move at that exact moment that she would become a problem later, I mean, she said she wanted to leave the village just because she loves him.. she said stuff to naruto (about loving him and not sasuke) that was similar in stupidity and naruto didnt even fall for it. You see where im going?

2) You're right about the fact that its only few people that caused the uchiha massacre, but Danzo only let Itachi spare Sasuke because he's his brother, this means that other innocent uchiha children did get killed (this had to be done to prevent these kids coming back for revenge like sasuke). Now Sasuke's reason to kill innocent konoha people is not the same as Danzo, its just simple revenge for the innocent uchiha children that got killed.

3) Karin: Read the part in this thread "Why people think he's evil and why I think he's not;" number 5. I'm not saying it was correct for Sasuke to that or wrong for people to hate him for doing that, but read the stuff in that section.

 

[uchihajaime]

Sakura was there to kill him, yes she was... but even when she got the chance to kill him, she backed down, she realized she wasn't able to do it, her feelings didn't allowed it, how the killing strike to her back could be considered legit self-defense since she hadn't made a move yet?
You forgot to mention the destroying Konoha part, why would he destroy every single person in Konoha when only some of them had the fault of what happened to his brother and family?? That is evil behavior, there is no excuse.
What about Karin? He was going to murder in cold blood right after she saved her life and helped him during the battle with Danzou, he acted so ungrateful... there in no way to defend his actions...

Sasuke is paying evil until evil. By definition this is evil but it is very understandable. Uchiha children died, though they had no idea what was going on. There's also Sasuke's aunt (Uruchi Uchiha) who couldn't possibly have been involved. However, she is dead. the children are dead. Sasuke isn't dead only because Itachi couldn't murder in cold blood his most precious person. All those innocent Uchiha are dead.
Sasuke desired to do the same thing to the village that the elders did to his clan. Don't just kill those responsible. Kill them all. Eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth. It's wrong but very understandable.

 

[SabakuNoGaaraOVZ]

Sasuke is paying evil until evil. By definition this is evil but it is very understandable. Uchiha children died, though they had no idea what was going on. There's also Sasuke's aunt (Uruchi Uchiha) who couldn't possibly have been involved. However, she is dead. the children are dead. Sasuke isn't dead only because Itachi couldn't murder in cold blood his most precious person. All those innocent Uchiha are dead.
Sasuke desired to do the same thing to the village that the elders did to his clan. Don't just kill those responsible. Kill them all. Eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth. It's wrong but very understandable.

Thats exactly what im trying to say!

 

[Keimil]

I'm not talking about the amount of fans, in that case you'd be right, sakura has almost 0 fans and sasuke's got enough, I'm talking about the amount of haters. Also, people rank these characters by power, when sasuke gets in top 10 it means that people think he's strong and not that they like him. Sakura is weak, thats why she gets in the top 30 (and theres still people that think that her recent powerup made her on par with sasuke/naruto) not because people hate her. But what about the time when neji died, what happened, people hated on him or something?

Thanks, and thats a good point, although it often looks like they hate sasuke instead of the fanboys when they make sasuke is emo threads or bash him in other threads, but you might be right.


1) You're not saying that Sasuke was supposed to wait for her to make her move right? He was onto her and thats why made his move. He knew that even if she wasnt gonna make a move at that exact moment that she would become a problem later, I mean, she said she wanted to leave the village just because she loves him.. she said stuff to naruto (about loving him and not sasuke) that was similar in stupidity and naruto didnt even fall for it. You see where im going?

2) You're right about the fact that its only few people that caused the uchiha massacre, but Danzo only let Itachi spare Sasuke because he's his brother, this means that other innocent uchiha children did get killed (this had to be done to prevent these kids coming back for revenge like sasuke). Now Sasuke's reason to kill innocent konoha people is not the same as Danzo, its just simple revenge for the innocent uchiha children that got killed.

3) Karin: Read the part in this thread "Why people think he's evil and why I think he's not;" number 5. I'm not saying it was correct for Sasuke to that or wrong for people to hate him for doing that, but read the stuff in that section.

1) Sasuke had no idea what she planned to do, she has always kissed his ass so hard that her plans to go with him were perfectly believable... So Sasuke didn't care what was she planning, he was going to kill her disregarding that... He was on her back, about to kill her with a chidori, how it make sense for you that can be considered self-defense?? Even if Sakura could have made the first move, she wouldn't have been able to actually stab him, not only because Sasuke is so much faster than her but her feelings wouldn't have allowed her... She never really tried, but Sasuke could have killed her twice if it wasn't for Kakashi and Naruto...

2) Don't make sense anyway... He was aiming his revenge to people who had nothing to do with it...

3) I actually had read the thread, but your point is lame...

He tried to kill Karin. Now this is a legit reason to hate sasuke, but the same people that hate him for this reason, dont hate konoha for killing the uchiha or sakura for trying to kill sasuke. Konoha had to set priorities; they could solve their problems with the uchiha without violence but that would be more difficult. killing them off simply was the easiest solution. Same goes for sakura and Sasuke. Sakura loved Sasuke, but he was a rogue ninja and therefore she decided to kill him. And Sasuke couldve saved Karin, but killing her and Danzo together was just a whole lot easier.

The only defense you give is that he did wrong by stabbing her, as well as other characters did in other situation.
Sakura never really tried or want to kill Sasuke, but Sasuke did tried twice...
Konoha didn't kill the Uchiha clan, Danzou and Itachi did, Sarutobi wanted to resolve that issue by trying to arrange an agreement with the Uchiha, and Danzou and the Uchiha's traitor didn't listen...
And finally, it doesn't matter how easier it is to kill Karin (or anyone) than healing her, if you have a little bit of ethics and moral, you would at least try to heal her, plus if you consider she had healed him from a death injury Bee and Danzou made him, there is no "easier" that could cross your mind, you would try to help her no matter what...

 

[uchihajaime]

1) Sasuke had no idea what she planned to do, she has always kissed his ass so hard that her plans to go with him were perfectly believable... So Sasuke didn't care what was she planning, he was going to kill her disregarding that... He was on her back, about to kill her with a chidori, how it make sense for you that can be considered self-defense?? Even if Sakura could have made the first move, she wouldn't have been able to actually stab him, not only because Sasuke is so much faster than her but her feelings wouldn't have allowed her... She never really tried, but Sasuke could have killed her twice if it wasn't for Kakashi and Naruto...

2) Don't make sense anyway... He was aiming his revenge to people who had nothing to do with it...

3) I actually had read the thread, but your point is lame...

The only defense you give is that he did wrong by stabbing her, as well as other characters did in other situation.
Sakura never really tried or want to kill Sasuke, but Sasuke did tried twice...
Konoha didn't kill the Uchiha clan, Danzou and Itachi did, Sarutobi wanted to resolve that issue by trying to arrange an agreement with the Uchiha, and Danzou and the Uchiha's traitor didn't listen...
And finally, it doesn't matter how easier it is to kill Karin (or anyone) than healing her, if you have a little bit of ethics and moral, you would at least try to heal her, plus if you consider she had healed him from a death injury Bee and Danzou made him, there is no "easier" that could cross your mind, you would try to help her no matter what...

1. She tried (and failed) to kill him. Sasuke in response tried to killed her. You have no idea what Sasuke would have done if she hadn't tried to kill him. In my opinion, she would have just joined him after proving her loyalty be killing Karin.

2. It makes as much sense as killing innocent Uchiha. Sasuke is paying evil with evil. It's wrong but it is as wrong as the Uchiha Massacre

3. see points 1 and 2

 

[Keimil]

1. She tried (and failed) to kill him. Sasuke in response tried to killed her. You have no idea what Sasuke would have done if she hadn't tried to kill him. In my opinion, she would have just joined him after proving her loyalty be killing Karin.

2. It makes as much sense as killing innocent Uchiha. Sasuke is paying evil with evil. It's wrong but it is as wrong as the Uchiha Massacre

3. see points 1 and 2

1) She tried? Did she? Then show me a manga scan when she actually attempt to kill Sasuke, there is only one, and she stopped herself... Sasuke didn't...

2) Neither make sense, killing innocent is never the answer, wasn't when Itachi did , wasn't when Sasuke was about to...
The fact that was part of his revenge isn't a solid defense for him. Besides, i repeat, Konoha didn't decide that, Danzou and Itachi did, it is not Konoha's fault or responsibility...

3) I did see them, but doesn't make any sense, you are comparing orange and potatoes...

 

[SasukeNeverSoloed]

No..... It's Sakura. No doubt.

No..... It's Obito. No doubt *the god of NB has spoken U_U*

 

[SabakuNoGaaraOVZ]

No..... It's Obito. No doubt *the god of NB has spoken U_U*

You contradict yourself in your username. I'm afraid you're even more stupid than those NB members that hardly speak any english and still want to argue..

1) Sasuke had no idea what she planned to do, she has always kissed his ass so hard that her plans to go with him were perfectly believable... So Sasuke didn't care what was she planning, he was going to kill her disregarding that... He was on her back, about to kill her with a chidori, how it make sense for you that can be considered self-defense?? Even if Sakura could have made the first move, she wouldn't have been able to actually stab him, not only because Sasuke is so much faster than her but her feelings wouldn't have allowed her... She never really tried, but Sasuke could have killed her twice if it wasn't for Kakashi and Naruto...

2) Don't make sense anyway... He was aiming his revenge to people who had nothing to do with it...

3) I actually had read the thread, but your point is lame...

The only defense you give is that he did wrong by stabbing her, as well as other characters did in other situation.
Sakura never really tried or want to kill Sasuke, but Sasuke did tried twice...
Konoha didn't kill the Uchiha clan, Danzou and Itachi did, Sarutobi wanted to resolve that issue by trying to arrange an agreement with the Uchiha, and Danzou and the Uchiha's traitor didn't listen...
And finally, it doesn't matter how easier it is to kill Karin (or anyone) than healing her, if you have a little bit of ethics and moral, you would at least try to heal her, plus if you consider she had healed him from a death injury Bee and Danzou made him, there is no "easier" that could cross your mind, you would try to help her no matter what...

1) So you think Sasuke wanted to kill Sakura for no reason? That makes more sense to you? Her bs sounded just as believable as the bs she told naruto; she didnt sound sincere at all, and naruto noticed, but you deny the fact that sasuke noticed that as well just to label him as 'evil'.

2) I'll word it different, maybe this makes more sense to you: He aimed his revenge at all; the ones that were involved (danzo & the elders) en those who weren't, just like Konoha killed all uchiha's; both involved and innocent uchihas (for example, children).

3) Sasuke had little chakra left and had a long day with multiple near death situations. He only had enough chakra to do one of these 2 things; 1. Save Karin and escape. 2 Kill Danzo and sacrifice Karin.
It was the moment that he chose option 2 that he became my favorite character. Yes she saved him and he saved her as well when she got hit by amaterasu. At that moment he actually did his best to save her, he did something he never tried before and wasnt sure if it was gonna work but still did it (while Juugo gave up on her). However, that situation was different from this one. This situation was a chance to kill Danzo, a chance he maybe wouldnt get again. He could save a friend and let a chance he committed his life to go or vice versa. Ethically its incorrect but its totally understandable. The girl's life didnt even weigh half as much as Danzo's death (he committed his whole life to this man's death, his whole clan's death is on this man's hands). Sakura defintely did try to kill Sasuke you cant deny that, and her action was totally ununderstandable (idk if thats a word pls dont mind my english, 3rd language); sasuke's life is not her business, nobody ordered her to kill him, she's not strong enough etc. So you cant even give me the 'hes a rogue ninja' argument cus thats not her business, thats up to Konoha higher ups to decide (and if they want him dead she wont be the one theyll ask). And then you still understand her move better than sasuke's? What about Gaara, he killed a lot of people. What he did to make up for this? He saved naruto's ass from kimimaro (this was a genin mission). Thats it. Sasuke saved naruto a million times, even in the last few chapters but that didnt count. The point is; Sasuke's deeds are not always ethically correct as murder is just wrong, but from his point of view they're all understandable. Every single one. He just doesnt explain himself to everyone which causes him to get portrayed as an evil criminal to the shinobi world, BUT, the NB members read the manga and see why he's not a bad guy and still hate him cus NV doesnt like him

 

[Keimil]

You contradict yourself in your username. I'm afraid you're even more stupid than those NB members that hardly speak any english and still want to argue..

1) So you think Sasuke wanted to kill Sakura for no reason? That makes more sense to you? Her bs sounded just as believable as the bs she told naruto; she didnt sound sincere at all, and naruto noticed, but you deny the fact that sasuke noticed that as well just to label him as 'evil'.

2) I'll word it different, maybe this makes more sense to you: He aimed his revenge at all; the ones that were involved (danzo & the elders) en those who weren't, just like Konoha killed all uchiha's; both involved and innocent uchihas (for example, children).

3) Sasuke had little chakra left and had a long day with multiple near death situations. He only had enough chakra to do one of these 2 things; 1. Save Karin and escape. 2 Kill Danzo and sacrifice Karin.
It was the moment that he chose option 2 that he became my favorite character. Yes she saved him and he saved her as well when she got hit by amaterasu. At that moment he actually did his best to save her, he did something he never tried before and wasnt sure if it was gonna work but still did it (while Juugo gave up on her). However, that situation was different from this one. This situation was a chance to kill Danzo, a chance he maybe wouldnt get again. He could save a friend and let a chance he committed his life to go or vice versa. Ethically its incorrect but its totally understandable. The girl's life didnt even weigh half as much as Danzo's death (he committed his whole life to this man's death, his whole clan's death is on this man's hands). Sakura defintely did try to kill Sasuke you cant deny that, and her action was totally ununderstandable (idk if thats a word pls dont mind my english, 3rd language); sasuke's life is not her business, nobody ordered her to kill him, she's not strong enough etc. So you cant even give me the 'hes a rogue ninja' argument cus thats not her business, thats up to Konoha higher ups to decide (and if they want him dead she wont be the one theyll ask). And then you still understand her move better than sasuke's? What about Gaara, he killed a lot of people. What he did to make up for this? He saved naruto's ass from kimimaro (this was a genin mission). Thats it. Sasuke saved naruto a million times, even in the last few chapters but that didnt count. The point is; Sasuke's deeds are not always ethically correct as murder is just wrong, but from his point of view they're all understandable. Every single one. He just doesnt explain himself to everyone which causes him to get portrayed as an evil criminal to the shinobi world, BUT, the NB members read the manga and see why he's not a bad guy and still hate him cus NV doesnt like him

1) He did tried to kill Karin for no reason, why would Sakura be the exception? Besides, if he was attemping destroying Konoha, he just would have one less kunoichi to kill...

2)I know he aimed them, we are not discussing that... we are discussing if its wrong and evil or not, and it is... If you think this kind of behavior is acceptable, worthy of a shounen hero, ok, it's your opinion, not a unquestionable truth...

3)Sure, that was the only option he had, thank god he was so considarate, so grateful:

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He had option, Tobi did asked him what he wanted to do with her, and he chose to kill her.

Sakura defintely did try to kill Sasuke you cant deny that, and her action was totally ununderstandable (idk if thats a word pls dont mind my english, 3rd language); sasuke's life is not her business, nobody ordered her to kill him, she's not strong enough etc. So you cant even give me the 'hes a rogue ninja' argument cus thats not her business, thats up to Konoha higher ups to decide (and if they want him dead she wont be the one theyll ask). And then you still understand her move better than sasuke's?

She was determined to do it, but she backed down... if you really think she did try to kill him, give me the manga scan, i am still waiting for it. Regarding, the "Is not her business" point, Danzou, when he was Hokage considered him enemy of the 5 nations, so anyone from any nation could have killed him and it would have been their business...
So Sakura, if she would have wanted to, was on on her right to kill him... as well as Kakashi...

However, It's true It seems Sasuke is kind of changing for good, I'm still not convinced of that...
I hope he has... Maybe he will earn his forgiveness, as well as Gaara earned it...

 

[Vegeto30294]

1. He killed Danzo. People call him a criminal for that, because Danzo is a hokage and of course, you cant kill a hokage, even if he made your brother kill your whole family=D

Even if Danzo was disliked, its still a criminal offense to waltz right into a top secret meeting and attempt to kill a KAGE. If you don't like the current President for his actions, that doesn't justify personally killing him, would it?

Also, Danzo didnt make Itachi do anything. The Uchiha clan was going to be wiped off the map at one point or another, whether its by Itachi or the other clans themselves.

2. He attacked the kage summit. Basically he just went there to kill danzo but the samurai and all the other present people attacked him (while he did warned them not to) and of course, if someone attacks you, you should just let it happen you know thats what everyone does=D

I'm sorry, were the Samurai supposed to step aside and give him a pat on the back because he's in a bad mood? He's trespassing on high value property, working with Akatsuki, and already an international criminal. The samurai were doing their job.

3. He tried to kill Sakura. Of course, despite sakura's uselessness, a murder is a murder. However, she tried to kill him first but you know what, let her. She's from konoha she can do whatever she wants right

Im sorry, who threw the first attack again from behind?

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4. He wants to destroy Konoha, the village that made his brother kill his family and indirectly made sasuke kill Itachi. People are gonna say that killing Itachi was his own choice cus you know, if my brother kills everyone I like I wouldnt do shit *NB LOGIC*. (same goes for wanting to destroy the village of course).

Destroying one of two things that Itachi gave his life to protect from inside Akatsuki because he didn't feel the same way.

Nagato actually destroyed Konoha and killed a lot of innocent people to get the nine tails and create peace by force, but he revived most of them and regretted committing these crimes. Guess what? He's forgiven! (by the people of the base) But sasuke on the other hand wanted to destroy the village for good reasons, didn't do it, changed his mind, and he's not forgiven.

Nagato was hated just like every other villain until he gave his life for the village. Same with Itachi. Neither Sasuke nor Nagato had good reasons to destroy Konoha, but Sasuke hasn't shown any act of redemption except appear in a war because he changed his mind, again.

6. He joined Akatsuki. So he joined the bad guys' team cause he needed allies to carry out his revenge plan. Ohnoki used the akatsuki and the sand used Orochimaru, they never got hated for that.[/SPOILER]

Joining Akatsuki = International Criminal. It's that straightforward

Onoki was hated.

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The Sand was as much a victim of Orochimaru as the Leaf was. Why do you think the 4th Kazekage is dead and Orochimaru took direct control of the invasion?

Either way, Sakura is more hated by the base than Sasuke

 

[SabakuNoGaaraOVZ]

1) He did tried to kill Karin for no reason, why would Sakura be the exception? Besides, if he was attemping destroying Konoha, he just would have one less kunoichi to kill...

2)I know he aimed them, we are not discussing that... we are discussing if its wrong and evil or not, and it is... If you think this kind of behavior is acceptable, worthy of a shounen hero, ok, it's your opinion, not a unquestionable truth...

3)Sure, that was the only option he had, thank god he was so considarate, so grateful:

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He had option, Tobi did asked him what he wanted to do with her, and he chose to kill her.

She was determined to do it, but she backed down... if you really think she did try to kill him, give me the manga scan, i am still waiting for it. Regarding, the "Is not her business" point, Danzou, when he was Hokage considered him enemy of the 5 nations, so anyone from any nation could have killed him and it would have been their business...
So Sakura, if she would have wanted to, was on on her right to kill him... as well as Kakashi...

However, It's true It seems Sasuke is kind of changing for good, I'm still not convinced of that...
I hope he has... Maybe he will earn his forgiveness, as well as Gaara earned it...

1) He didnt kill Karin for no reason, after he stabbed her together with Danzo (already gave you the reasons for this), it would be dumb to leave her alive for various reasons such as the fact that she knows a lot about him (if she somehow teamed up with his enemies it would be disadvantageous), she could make team taka fall apart if she tells the team that sasuke stabbed her etc.

2) You're totally ignoring my argument about innocent uchihas that got slaughtered along with the uchihas that were involved with the coup.

3) I didnt say he had no other choice, I said he had 2 options and that his option to kill her along with danzo weighed more (cus he may not get the chance again), read the details in my previous comment. Furthermore, you found sakura's intention? I found it foolish, to think she could kill sasuke (or that she should do it without getting the order to do it or without consulting the others), so did kakashi.

4) Sounds like you'd only forgive sasuke if the NV does

 

[SasukeNeverSoloed]

You contradict yourself in your username. I'm afraid you're even more stupid than those NB members that hardly speak any english and still want to argue..

What do my Username have to do with this thread? I bet you probably feel so badass for insulting someone you've never met just because they have a username that you don't like:|


-SasukeNeverSolo'ed-