The Most Complicated Thing in DBZ?

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

For a show with minimal plot and based everything around its awesome fights, how could something like the Buu transformations be so confusing.

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I mean can anyone else explains how this works.

I mean I'm pretty knowledgeable when it comes to the Big 3 and DBZ, but even this confuses me.

 

[Brenkuto24]

Buu absorbing people contributed to the forms

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Buu absorbing people contributed to the forms

Do you mean the people from Earth, because I doubt they would have that much impact on the difference from Evil Buu and Kid Buu.

If you mean the Z fighters, these forms were with no Z fighters absorbed. Majin Buu was a "good" form while Evil Buu was him before Majin Buu became Majin Buu.

Basically if Super Buu lost Majin Buu, he should have turned back into Evil Buu. But we got Kid buu. But if Kid Buu was the "original", Evil Buu shouldn't have been there and it should have been Kid Buu who absorbed Majin Buu when Majin Buu spit out Evil Buu.

 

[griems]

Kid Buu absorbed the fat kai and thereby growing weaker.

Fat Buu had an inner struggle with his own darkness and expelled it thereby forming Evil Buu.

Evil Buu and Fat Buu had a fight that Evil Buu won and then ate/absorbed Fat Buu thus becoming Super Buu because the dominant side of the of the Fat Kai no longer weakend Kid Buu.

When Goku and Vegeta went inside of Super Buu they removed Fat Buu thus leaving him with noone else but his original self Kid Buu.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Kid Buu absorbed the fat kai and thereby growing weaker.

Fat Buu had an inner struggle with his own darkness and expelled it thereby forming Evil Buu.

Evil Buu and Fat Buu had a fight that Evil Buu won and then ate/absorbed Fat Buu thus becoming Super Buu because the dominant side of the of the Fat Kai no longer weakend Kid Buu.

When Goku and Vegeta went inside of Super Buu they removed Fat Buu thus leaving him with noone else but his original self Kid Buu.

But if they removed Majin Buu, then it should have been Evil Buu since he was just the original Evil Buu. Or Evil Buu shouldn't have existed and it should have been Kid Buu that absorbed Majin Buu when Majin Buu expelled the Evil part of him.

 

[Brenkuto24]

Everything greims said is true....he originally changed from his normal form(kid buu) by absorbing Daikayo and the old north kai

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Everything greims said is true....he originally changed from his normal form(kid buu) by absorbing Daikayo and the old north kai

Mhm. That is how it went, but what the story says doesn't make sense.

Absorbing the Dai Kaioshin or the Grand Supreme Kai shouldn't matter in the equations of the pic I posted. He is apart of Majin Buu. Getting rid of Majin Buu should also get rid of the Dai Kaioshin. So in both cases when Majin Buu was just Majin Buu, the Dai Kaioshin was put into Majin Buu. Evil Buu and Kid Buu did not have the Dai Kaioshin in him, so it shouldn't cause them to be different.

 

[Moshar Aburame]

Evil Buu came from Fat Buu, who had all the goodness from the Old Kai, so he came from a source that had good in it. After Evil Buu absorbed Fat Buu, he still absorbed the good and the goofy nature from the Old Kai, it was just less prominent. But when Fat Buu was cut from Evil Buu, all the goodness from the Old Kai was severed and he reverted back to Kid Buu.

 

[Phoenix110]

No comment

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Alright. Let's try this from a different approach. What I am basically saying Evil Buu and Kid Buu are essentially the same.

Let's answer some questions.
Does Evil Buu have the Dai Kaioshin in him?
Does Kid Buu have the Dai Kaioshin in him?

If the answer is no to both then why are they different.

Majin Buu has the Dai Kaioshin in him because it is what makes him Majin Buu. This is notable because of him being the way Majin Buu is. If he didn't have the Dai Kaioshin in himself, then he wouldn't be Majin Buu.

Now since Both Kid Buu and Evil Buu had no other entity inside them(basically they were just the original evil forms) why are they different?

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Kid Buu absorbed the fat kai and thereby growing weaker.

Fat Buu had an inner struggle with his own darkness and expelled it thereby forming Evil Buu.

Evil Buu and Fat Buu had a fight that Evil Buu won and then ate/absorbed Fat Buu thus becoming Super Buu because the dominant side of the of the Fat Kai no longer weakend Kid Buu.

When Goku and Vegeta went inside of Super Buu they removed Fat Buu thus leaving him with noone else but his original self Kid Buu.

This is the right answer.Nicely said.

 

[Redemption]

Fat Buu had more evil and darkness in him before fusing with evil buu. After the fusion was done he lost more of a chunk of power he initially had and that chunk went to evil buu thus kid buu was again complete. Fat buu was stronger at the begining and weaker after the fused form was split cause he lost more power.

Kid buu>fat buu in a greater measurement than evil buu>fat buu.

At least that's how i saw it.

 

[PaperHERO]

It's Asian mathematics going on here. Surely it's more complex than it looks.

 

[Wamphyri]

Naww don't sweat it...


Look at it chronologically:

Bibidi "created" (according to toryama he much rather .. found him) kid buu. The Original form therefore is Kid Buu

This Buu had a safety mechanism.. Whenever an opponent seemed dangerous .. He would just absorb them and integrate them into his being.


Now:

Kid Buu attacked the realm of the Supreme Kais... Where he encountered South Kai. South Kai was a fighter with the physique of Super Buu... And he was a fighter much like Piccolo or Vegeta...
AS Kid Buu absorbed South Kai .. He took his physique and became Super Buu


Super Buu then engaged the grand supreme Kai .. A fat, playful and kind being.
This is when Fat Buu was born. This also is the Buu that was sealed and later unsealed by Babidi.



Fat Buu however tried to expell his evil (much like Kami did) and he basically expelled everything before the absorption of the grand supreme kai ... Including the form that already had absorbed the South Kai. While trying to retain his power. Therefore we get the weakened super buu which is evil buu


Now as Evil buu absorbs Fat buu, he stores him seperately in a pod as to draw on his power without taking on his personality. That is the new absorption Super Buu used from then on. He basically tried not to repeat the mistake which turned him into fat buu.

 

[7th Biggest OP Fan]

Fat Buu had more evil and darkness in him before fusing with evil buu. After the fusion was done he lost more of a chunk of power he initially had and that chunk went to evil buu thus kid buu was again complete. Fat buu was stronger at the begining and weaker after the fused form was split cause he lost more power.

Kid buu>fat buu in a greater measurement than evil buu>fat buu.

At least that's how i saw it.

I like this answer. It makes a bit more sense.


So what you are saying is When Evil Buu was created, Majin Buu kept some of the evil inside him thus making Evil Buu and not Kid Buu because Kid Buu = all evil while Evil Buu = mostly Evil.

That would make sense except how did Super Buu be able to absorb the rest of the evil so when he reverted back, he became Kid Buu. If he did it this way and Majin Buu wasn't in some frozen state where evil can pass freely from one entity to the other, that is a hell of a stretch that wasn't explained in the manga.

 

[MacNeato]

I think Evil Buu was more of a manifestation of dark energy. Thats why when fat buu spat out evil buu they had the same clothes but fat buu retained his form.

Now when evil buu got the best of fat buu and absorbed him, the dominance of that negative energy is what changed his appearance. He was originally evil before, but that changed when he absorbed fat Kai. Now he was evil again because his negative counterpart absorbed him.

When goku and vegeta removed fat buu and everyone else from there pods and out of his body, all that was left was that dominant evil and he reverted to his original form.

I get what you're saying though. When he expelled the evil from his body, it should have came out as kid buu, but that wasn't the case. He was a negative manifestation of the buu we were introduced to.

 

[SS100]

Lol, how can something simple as this be confusing?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

What I would like to know is why did East Supreme Kai not just use the Dragonballs to wish his fellow Supreme Kais back?