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KCM Naruto was already stronger than Minato. Hebi Sasuke surpassed Fugaku.
Fugaku<<<<<<<<<<<Minato low diff.
Minato had BM when he was revived, that's a part of his powers. The same with Sage Mode .
The moment Sasuke surpassed Fugaku:
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The moment Naruto surpassed Minato:
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Fugaku was a fodder.
Vote Sasuke takes him mid-high diff.
@bold: Minato had BM. BSM Naruto is above BM Minato.
What feats do you have to support this?
Hebi Sasuke was by far superior to Fugaku, but Fugaku certainly wasn't weak IMO but rather very strong.
Naruto surpassed Minato the moment he activated his Kyuubi Cloak Mode Bijuu Mode, though his performances has been fairly lackluster.
You don't really believe pain arc SM Naruto surpassed thisdo you? smhYou must be registered for see images
but pain is way too strong for minato in my opinion
KCM Naruto was already stronger than Minato. Hebi Sasuke surpassed Fugaku.
Sasuke's head looks kinda out of shape.
Oh really?Haha, obviously not. Nothing short of BM Naruto truly surpasses Minato. Yes, KCM can rival him but only that, not beat him, especially when Minato has SM
Bulls***!
That bitterness against Fugaku is obvious. :lol You must be totally out of your mind to say that VOTE 1 Sasuke can beat him. Nothing short of Hebi Sasuke w/CM is beating Fugaku. You're seriously underestimating the Uchiha Clan head and the Konoha Military Police captain.
And that Minato wank is obvious too, LOL... BSM Naruto surpassed Minato by far, that's not the lowest form needed to beat him. BM Naruto easily surpassed Minato and KCM Naruto matched him.
This level of ignorance is astounding. ^
What feats do YOU have to support your point? LMFAO. Even logically, your point makes no sense. Saying that an Uchiha clan head & Konoha Police captain with great power, skills and experience is inferior to an early teen Uchiha kid who just reached 3T level. That's beyond retarded.
Corrected. Some minor underestimation and overestimation was done there...
Haha, obviously not. Nothing short of BM Naruto truly surpasses Minato. Yes, KCM can rival him but only that, not beat him, especially when Minato has SM.
Not really. Yes, Pain is stronger than Minato, but Minato has the right tools to beat him. A tactical use of FTG can be very effective against Pain, and if Deva (the only difficult to handle Pain) gets marked, it's not a very difficult win for Minato, since he can be defeated in the 5 sec cool down time and the rest of them can be handled by FTG even without the markings on their body.
If anything, Pain is way too strong for SM Naruto. Just because he won the fight doesn't mean he is stronger than Pain, LMAO. A weakened and low on chakra Pain (Deva Path only) was manhandling SM Naruto and incapacitated him pretty easily. Even after Naruto went Kyuubi rage mode, that weakened and low on chakra Deva Pain could fight on par with him till the six tails, and even then he sealed him. He only lost the upper hand when Naruto went up to eight tailed form and broke free of the CT, and that also because Pain was extremely weakened by then.
I don't see how KCM Naruto was "stronger" than SM+FTG Minato. Yes, he can be around the same level, but not stronger. True that Minato's proficiency and capability with SM is lacking, but it's not totally useless either.
And Hebi Sasuke surpassed Fugaku but that same Sasuke without CM would have probably just paralleled Fugaku.
Sasuke surpassed Fugaku when he awakened MS.
I think Fugaku is solid Jonin level, but Hebi Sasuke was by far superior. Naruto conceded that Team Kakashi couldn't defeat Pre-Hebi Sasuke based on how he performed against them which excluded Cursed Seal Enhancements. That's rather huge considering Kakashi is one of the strongest Elite Jonin in the village given his performance against Itachi in comparison to Asuma and Kurenai.
3T Hebi Sasuke w/o CM was certainly a Kage Level Ninja.
Oh really?
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So you have no Fugaku feats? Meanwhile I have multitudes of Sasuke feats.
All Fugaku has are titles and hype. He's a fodder.
We agree on Fugaku being highly underestimated, & SM Naruto not surpassing Minato, but you see Minato as >= KCM Naruto any reason?Tell what?