The misconception of Edo Madara being Hashirama + Madara

[KingHashirama]

He didn't have it before....

Highly false, the Uchiha had been using Izanagi without the use of Senju dna.

To make FULL USE of Izanagi you need Senju dna... however, to use the technique you don't need senju dna.

 

[Trollasaur]

Highly false, the Uchiha had been using Izanagi without the use of Senju dna.

To make FULL USE of Izanagi you need Senju dna... however, to use the technique you don't need senju dna.

There you go then, he had a shit version.

GG

 

[KingHashirama]

There you go then, he was using a shit version.

GG

No he didn't use it.. . Izanami is useless against someone like Hashirama. How well did it serve Obito and Danzo?

Don't even know what the scrolls are, I believe in some "filler" the summoned weapons like swords, shurkiens ect

Edo Madara>>Edo Hashirama
Madara<Hashirma.

In the filler, Hashirama used a smaller scroll that he usually caries to summon weapons. However, what about the huge ones ? ;].

 

[Trollasaur]

No he didn't use it.. . Izanami is useless against someone like Hashirama. How well did it serve Obito and Danzo?


In the filler, Hashirama used a smaller scroll that he usually caries to summon weapons. However, what about the huge ones ? ;].

Izinagi*
Obito killed someone with it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Izinagi*
Obito killed someone with it.

You can't kill with it....

 

[Trollasaur]

You can't kill with it....

Obito was invincible for a couple a minutes, he said that, he used izinagi and killed konan anyways so it doesn't matter it worked.

 

[The Necromancer]

Madara has everything but Wood Human. He's Madara + at least 70% of Hashi, far more than you're making him out to be.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

Oho, KingHashirama is at it again... I cannot even begin to fathom why people still take him seriously, when he is the same ignoramus who stated that Sakura exceeds Nagato, in terms of Genjutsu and Taijutsu.

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara has everything but Wood Human. He's Madara + at least 70% of Hashi, far more than you're making him out to be.

Madara hasn't shown the hands that blocked the sword of PS (and could've took down Kurama + PS if used right).

You say him having his dna makes him 70% of Hashi...... though his chakra is still inferior to Hashirama's and Tobirama's... . So in terms of chakra strength hes not even in Hashi's league....

Hashirama's scrolls, with many jutsus.. Madara doesn't have those..

Sage Mode.. that amplified Mokuton time 100 ... Madara doesn't have it...

Now tell me how does Madara have 70% of Hashirama , just cause he has mere Mokuton....

Oho, KingHashirama is at it again... I cannot even begin to fathom why people still take him seriously, when he is the same ignoramus who stated that Sakura exceeds Nagato, in terms of Genjutsu and Taijutsu.

Though i only recall saying Taijutsu..

And maybe because unlike you I don't go on threads and complain about the OP.. but actually talk about the thread itself... You want people to take your complains seriously? I mean all you do is complain.....


Even in Sakura > Nagato in Taijutsu.. all you people did was complain.... .

 

[BasedRikudo]

It's actually madara + yamato

 

[KingHashirama]

It's actually madara + yamato

^^^^^^^^ well 3-4 Yamatos.

 

[The Necromancer]

Madara hasn't shown the hands that blocked the sword of PS (and could've took down Kurama + PS if used right).

You say him having his dna makes him 70% of Hashi...... though his chakra is still inferior to Hashirama's and Tobirama's... . So in terms of chakra strength hes not even in Hashi's league....

Hashirama's scrolls, with many jutsus.. Madara doesn't have those..

Sage Mode.. that amplified Mokuton time 100 ... Madara doesn't have it...

Now tell me how does Madara have 70% of Hashirama , just cause he has mere Mokuton....

The hands, you refer to, are part of Wood Human. The thing i said he does not have.

Chakra does not matter as he is an edo with unlimited chakra, and uchiha have also been stated to have immensely powerful chakra, just not as much of it.

Hashi's scrolls, never been used, aka, useless in debate.

Sage mode has produced Wood Buddha, and Sealing Tori. Powerful, but not nearly stronger than 30% of hashi's over all power.

So yes, Great Forest Destruction+Wood Dragon+Flowering Tree World+Wood Clones =70% of Hashi's power, and Wood Buddha+Wood Person =30% imo.

 

[KingHashirama]

The hands, you refer to, are part of Wood Human. The thing i said he does not have.

Chakra does not matter as he is an edo with unlimited chakra, and uchiha have also been stated to have immensely powerful chakra, just not as much of it.

Hashi's scrolls, never been used, aka, useless in debate.

Sage mode has produced Wood Buddha, and Sealing Tori. Powerful, but not nearly stronger than 30% of hashi's over all power.

So yes, Great Forest Destruction+Wood Dragon+Flowering Tree World+Wood Clones =70% of Hashi's power, and Wood Buddha+Wood Person =30% imo.

Umm they aren't part of the wood human.. no clue where you got that from.

Even as Edos.. your chakra still determines the jutsu you are enable to use or not. I never Said Madara doesn't have strong chakras, i'm saying hes not in Hashirama's league.... Don't know where your getting unlimited chakra = unlimited chakrapool.


This isn't about a debate, this is about the manga.

Buddha is stronger then any technique Hashirama has... Torri gates put down the juubi. and that is less then 30%.. And why are you stating that, those are the only powers Sage mode will show? Sage mode strengthens every technique he uses, whether it be normal mokuton techniques or high teir..

Well glad its your opinion... cause Hashirama isn't just Mokuton... Just because thats what hes shown so far.. doesn't mean thats all the thing he has.

 

[TheSages456]

the only thing you have to look at to see that edo madara isnt madara+hashirama is their current fight where hashirama is equaling madara with his mokujin which is something we saw him use in base.

 

[Xāvî1]

since you just need dna of hashiram. then madara has that. so is wood jutsu is as strong as hashirama. But not strong as his sage mode

 

[KingHashirama]

since you just need dna of hashiram. then madara has that. so is wood jutsu is as strong as hashirama. But not strong as his sage mode

Just so you know that is a thing made by fans.... Manga doesn't even support it..