[Theory] the man within Spiral zetsu !!!

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@Minamoto
My god, i have never seen such an idiot like yourself, sorry but true.
Nothing against theorist's, but the way you keep trying to defend yourself and your silly claims is just hilarious.
Reading your posts is like peeling onions.

Spiral Zetsu is pressumably just Yamato (He wasn't killed offscreen, and i doubt kishi would do that to such semi-importaint character), and no he did not turn dark or switched sides, it's spiral zetsu controlling Yamato's body.

Oh and next time try to use multiple quotes, spamming 5 messages containing the same 'message' is a bit overdue (Page 3).
 
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bro a clone can't be a central vilain...it has to be the reall madara..
SPIRAL ZETSU IS NOT A CENTRAL VILLAIN, seriously I don't think people like you are reading the same manga as everyone else... Stop sucking up the base
 

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@Minamoto
My god, i have never seen such an idiot like yourself, sorry but true.
Nothing against theorist's, but the way you keep trying to defend yourself and your silly claims is just hilarious.
Reading your posts is like peeling onions.

Spiral Zetsu is pressumably just Yamato (He wasn't killed offscreen, and i doubt kishi would do that to such semi-importaint character), and no he did not turn dark or switched sides, it's spiral zetsu controlling Yamato's body.

Oh and next time try to use multiple quotes, spamming 5 messages containing the same 'message' is a bit overdue (Page 3).

i promise i will transfom all that hatred toward me into a victory in my favor...
 

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That would make for 3 madara's if you were right...madara, madara's limbo shadow and now madara's shell? That's a few too many madara's if you ask me.

I'm a Madara, you're a Madara, everyone's a Madara! :p
 

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i promise i will transfom all that hatred toward me into a victory in my favor...

It isn't hate, it's pity... "guys I had a thought so it must be true! look I made a youtube video proving my point with no actual facts and wild speculation!"
 

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It isn't hate, it's pity... "guys I had a thought so it must be true! look I made a youtube video proving my point with no actual facts and wild speculation!"

Lol you just described him 100% Bravo!
 

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It isn't hate, it's pity... "guys I had a thought so it must be true! look I made a youtube video proving my point with no actual facts and wild speculation!"

link me your youtube vid....here's my channel....
 

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Lol I have read some of your theories already, what makes you think that I will change my mind by watching one more of your vids?

Btw, Obito being controlled by Madara is completely different by him beign truly Madara. Obito had to follow his plan (because at that point he wanted to do so) and because of that seal but from that to say Madara somehow took over his body, he could speak with his voice, he could use his body as his own, is just a falsification of what happened...ofc I wouldn't expect anything less from you.
 

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link me your youtube vid....here's my channel....

dude... i was mocking you... youtube videos are inadmissible in court, especially when they contain nothing but wild speculation
 

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dude... i was mocking you... youtube videos are inadmissible in court, especially when they contain nothing but wild speculation

ok i have to admit that i was reading your post in speed of light...thought u were talking about your vid..
 

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Lol I have read some of your theories already, what makes you think that I will change my mind by watching one more of your vids?

Btw, Obito being controlled by Madara is completely different by him beign truly Madara. Obito had to follow his plan (because at that point he wanted to do so) and because of that seal but from that to say Madara somehow took over his body, he could speak with his voice, he could use his body as his own, is just a falsification of what happened...ofc I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

ahha so now you say madara controlled obito.....the purpose of that heart-seal is so when 2nd madara manupulate obito...obito wouldn't know of himself being controlled by tobidara.....LOOK listenw well plzz...i still can forgive you...join my side and you'll be victorer...i give you my word !!comon !!..
 

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ahha so now you say madara controlled obito.....the purpose of that heart-seal is so when 2nd madara manupulate obito...obito wouldn't know of himself being controlled by tobidara.....LOOK listenw well plzz...i still can forgive you...join my side and you'll be victorer...i give you my word !!comon !!..

Lol I've never implied that Obito wasn't controlled or to explain it better, I think that in Obito's case you can't really consider it a "control" for the simple fact that till before he got talk no jutsu, he as well wanted the Infintive Tsukuyomi, that means that he intentionally did what he did. Madara did have put that mark on him in case he wanted to change his plans. The very fact that even when Kakashi destroyed that seal, he still pursued the Infinitive Tsukuyomi proves exactly that he wanted it on his own, with or without Madara's manipulation.
Also, you say that the purpose of the seal was to not let Obito know of him being controlled while madara perfectly stated in this chapter that he did know of that seal and thus of his possible control and for that reason he intentionally chose to get hit by Kakashi.

To sum it all up, I believe that Obito could have been possibly controlled but this did not happen because he intentionally wanted to complete the infinitive tsukuyomi. Madara's seal was in case he chose not to follow it. For that reason, he wasn't really controlled but hypothetically he could have, had he chose not to follow madara's footsteps and a proof of that is him desiring to complete the Infinitve Tsukuyomi even when the seal was removed and had his freedom to choose a different path.
 
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@Minamoto
My god, i have never seen such an idiot like yourself, sorry but true.
Nothing against theorist's, but the way you keep trying to defend yourself and your silly claims is just hilarious.
Reading your posts is like peeling onions.

Spiral Zetsu is pressumably just Yamato (He wasn't killed offscreen, and i doubt kishi would do that to such semi-importaint character), and no he did not turn dark or switched sides, it's spiral zetsu controlling Yamato's body.

Oh and next time try to use multiple quotes, spamming 5 messages containing the same 'message' is a bit overdue (Page 3).

Totally agree with you....before biting and injecting curse seal to him, orochimaru seems to "recognize" this spiral zetsu. We know that oro is also an expert in hashirama cell and has so many guinea pig when developing new jutsu for him and for danzou. I'm sure oro recognize this spiral zetsu as the one and only his success guinea pig, which is of course, YAMATO.
Plus, when suigetsu attack this spiral zetsu with double water gun, we can see an ear and hairstyle that resemble to Yamato. I mean, who else it's gonna be???
 

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Lol I've ever implied that Obito wasn't controlled or to explain it better, I think that in Obito's case you can't really consider it a "control" for the simple fact that till before he got talk no jutsu, he as well wanted the Infintive Tsukuyomi, that means that he intentionally did what he did. Madara did have put that mark on him in case he wanted to change his plans. The very fact that even when Kakashi destroyed that seal, he still pursued the Infinitive Tsukuyomi proves exactly that he wanted it on his own, with or without Madara's manipulation.
Also, you say that the purpose of the seal was to not let Obito know of him being controlled while madara perfectly stated in this chapter that he did know of that seal and thus of his possible control and for that reason he intentionally chose to get hit by Kakashi.

To sum it all up, I believe that Obito could have been possibly controlled but this did not happen because he intentionally wanted to complete the infinitive tsukuyomi. Madara's seal was in case he chose not to follow it. For that reason, he wasn't really controlled but hypothetically he could have, had he chose not to follow madara's footsteps and a proof of that is him desiring to complete the Infinitve Tsukuyomi even when the seal was removed and had his freedom to choose a different path.

ok you had your last chance to join me cuz i was just trying to save you from your stuppdidty that is going to happen soon...WHEN TOBIDARA GETS REVEALED REMEMBER ME LAUGHTING AT YOUR ST...Y !!!....(side note : i only admired one thing in you is when you never mocked my english...its like you care about peoples' thoughts more then you care about their languages...and this is good thing...hmmm maybe this slight little thing might spare you from my revenge..
 

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WoooooooooooooooooooooooooW
nine years of reading this manga and th the most stupid thing i ever read
not just that you named the character too it's kinda made me believe your crazy or something but i have to go with just to much stupid
and whats up with this stupid ego like you are the one whose writing the manga
you are just making a complete fool of your self
i just registered here after many years of just reading posts to tell you how much stupid you are

not to mention that who you call another Madara, defeated by just a girl and by a stupid bite from Orotshimaru
 
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ok you had your last chance to join me cuz i was just trying to save you from your stuppdidty that is going to happen soon...WHEN TOBIDARA GETS REVEALED REMEMBER ME LAUGHTING AT YOUR ST...Y !!!....(side note : i only admired one thing in you is when you never mocked my english...its like you care about peoples' thoughts more then you care about their languages...and this is good thing...hmmm maybe this slight little thing might spare you from my revenge..

Lol if your theory comes into fruition (which won't happen), then you'll have my respect.
As for your english, I really don't care, as long as I can undersand easily what you're saying I have no problem with that, though some of your mistakes seem to be made intentionally (ex. plz instead of please I mean come on) but whatever. And I do care more about someone's thoughts. Languages is a very complex subject, the one who is good at one can suck at another so me making fun of it is like sh*tting on myself since my french is not very well either. Point is that as long as you're not a pain to become comprehensible then I couldn't care less.
 
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Lol if your theory comes into fruition (which won't happen), then you'll have my respect.
As for your english, I really don't care, as long as I can undersand easily what you're saying I have no problem with that, though some of your mistakes seem to be made intentionally (ex. plz instead of please I mean come on) but whatever. And I do care more about someone's thoughts. Languages is a very complex subject, the one who is good at one can suck at another so me making fun of it is like sh*tting on myself since my french is not very well either. Point is that as long as you're not a pain to become comprehensible then I couldn't care less.
here comes a wise quote created by me :"REALL SHINOBI NEVER EDIT HIS POSTS!!!"
 

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here comes a wise quote created by me :"REALL SHINOBI NEVER EDIT HIS POSTS!!!"

Well I'm not a shinobi so there is no problem with that XD and besides if I see a mistake I simply can't let it go. It's like seeing a painting with a blotch that you leave it there ruining that way your art.
 

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WoooooooooooooooooooooooooW
nine years of reading this manga and th the most stupid thing i ever read
not just that you named the character too it's kinda made me believe your crazy or something but i have to go with just to much stupid
and whats up with this stupid ego like you are the one whose writing the manga
you are just making a complete fool of your self
i just registered here after many years of just reading posts to tell you how much stupid you are

not to mention that who you call another Madara, defeated by just a girl and by a stupid bite from Orotshimaru

you are not a real naruto fan...tobimadara said during the 5 kages summit that he was weak and that he was JUST AN EMPTY SHELL OF HIS FORMERSELF!!!...AND THAT HE PLANS TO GO BACK TO HIS FORMERSELF...IT MEANS HE ISNT AS STRONG AS HIS REALL VEESEL RIKUDO MADARA..plus...dont forget that tobidara insisde spiral zetsu was fighting 5 kages+edo hiruzen+ team orochimaru+ allied shinobies...evenrikudo madara got beat sometimes...so plzz...make sence or rather stfu
 
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