The leaps of logic some people go to in order to explain away something......

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So lately there have been threads saying how "MS techniques can be used without MS"(this one is so dumb on many levels) to trying to explain away the fact that Madara can somehow use Susanoo despite being blind because of some chakra BS.Yet if Naruto could use BM without Kurama,or if Neji,Hiashi,and Hinata can use Gentle Fist or have 360 degree vision without Byakugan then most people here would call bullsh*t.

But here we are with people going to absurd leaps of logic in trying to explain away the events of this week's chapter....honestly you have to admit that all these explainations are a little out there.Madara absorbing chakra?Easily explained,him surviving against all 9 bijuus?Eh it could go either way.

Madara using Susanoo despite being blind and the fact Susanoo is a MS technique?Not so much.
 
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I actually believe Kishi is watching these forums and finds the best theory for his BS and then confirms that in the manga.
 

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on one side there are people who immediately rush to claim something BS and a plothole
on the other side their are those who theorize and form hypothesis' to make sense of things

i think we should just wait and see if theres an explanation
 

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I actually believe Kishi is watching these forums and finds the best theory for his BS and then confirms that in the manga.
That would'nt suprise me one bit...hell he could use the recent one where all MS techniques can be used without the eyes itself.
 

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on one side there are people who immediately rush to claim something BS and a plothole
on the other side their are those who theorize and form hypothesis' to make sense of things

i think we should just wait and see if theres an explanation

Some things are just implausible and there can never be a explanation good enough to change it.
 

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I wouldn't call it logic. There are just some people who believe that Kishi can do no wrong and will go to any lengths to support that.

I love and respect Kishimoto's work, but this last chapter needs to be explained in the upcoming chapters or else this will be looked at as a huge plot hole.. I hope he gives an explanation .
 

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I just don't see how this can be explain logically , people are just trying to make an excuse for it but ....until Kishi explains it (if he does it) you got nothing , which I doubt it will help that much anyways.
 

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Can't we all just stop this shitty arguing and get a drink?
 

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I just don't see how this can be explain logically , people are just trying to make an excuse for it but ....until Kishi explains it (if he does it) you got nothing , which I doubt it will help that much anyways.

There is no way Kishi can explain away the fact that Madara not only can use Susanoo while blind,but he had Zetsu recover the other Rinnegan eye that is supposed to be with Nagato's corpse which is in Kamui land.He has to go to extreme leaps of logic in order to explain those two.
 

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I guess were are never going to let this go.
 

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Well I did a thread about it and it's not that illogical
 

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There is no way Kishi can explain away the fact that Madara not only can use Susanoo while blind,but he had Zetsu recover the other Rinnegan eye that is supposed to be with Nagato's corpse which is in Kamui land.He has to go to extreme leaps of logic in order to explain those two.

stop triple posting
you're wrong
obito took both eyes from nagato, kept the left one for himself, and kept the right one in his hideout which obviously zetsu would have access to since he was so close to obito

apparently there seems to be only two types of naruto fans: those who enjoy it, and when something doesnt make sense, try to theorize and make sense out of it themselves until they get an explanation
then, theres those like yourself, who just try to claim everything as BS and an illogical plothole as soon as something doesnt fit right with them. rather than going to search and investigate on their own, they'd just rather complain and be inaccurate...
 

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I think people are getting wayyy too mad over this Susano'o being used without his eyes thing.

One, it very well COULD be part of his chakra.

Two, it's not even a really big "story altering" move like people are making it out to be. Madara was trapped in the seal. Had Kishimoto not made him use Susano'o, it would have been another technique. Did you guys really expect that to work on him?

Also, Naruto WOULDN'T have BM and Hiashi couldn't use any Gentle Fist techniques because...

1. Kurama is a separate entity that Naruto has bonded with. Take that away, no BM.

2. Hyuuga clan members without their eyes are still Hyuuga clan members, unlike taking a Bijuu away from a Jinchuuriki making them not Jinchuuriki anymore. They still have a Bloodline Limit that would probably be passed down to their offspring... Hyuuga clan members need their eyes because I don't know of any one of them that COULD fight blind like Madara can.

Maybe their eyes act as mediums for their power, but nothing states that the eyes have to be physically present to use that power other than Madara stating that eyes can "unleash" their full potential when they are together.
 
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