[The Last] The Tenseigan

[Made in Heaven]

i want excuses from you and man of sin, why you trust him and not me

Dunno,maybe because he has the databook

 

[1Told]

Dunno,maybe because he has the databook

you know i was just repeating stuff i red from people whom saw the movie, i've said it many times but well, i'm waiting for my excuses, come on don't be shy =D

 

[Garfield01]

If it's in a parallel universe as you claim, there is no way it would be able to interact at all with things in the plain of reality as it so often did. they are nothing more than invisible clones. And seeing as how the Byakugan's insight as been said to be the most superior, and the fact that the Tenseigan is an even stronger version of the byakugan, it would be able to pick up on the Limbo clones



Except Sasuke' Rennigan has Tomoes while Madara's or Nagato's do not, indicating that there is in fact a diffrence. The 4th databook even elaborates on this .



Hagoromo was seemingly born with t, there is no indication he unlocked it.



*Ashura and Indra chakra



Kaguya never showed any Six path jutsus, and her forehead Rennigan-Sharingan eye was diffrent from both Madara's rennigan and Sasuke's Rennigan in that her's was red with tomoes while Sasuke's is purple with tomoes and Madara's is simply purple.



So why aren't they listed as users in the databook? Moreover, why didn't Sasuke use limbo to fight Madara's limbo? Moreover, why didn't Madara use Amenotejikara to counter Sasuke's Amenotejikara ?



Where are you even getting this from ?



Same would apply to a rennigan user since Toneri can also absorb chakra.



How do you know that's the form of Madara they're referring to ? All the databook says is that it's equal to the Rennigan, which is true to a degree, and that he is on par with Madara. which form of Madara exactly?

Like I said before, I do believe Juubi Jin Madara/Edo Madara is above Toneri, simply due to the fact that he has amplifiers in both cases. I'm saying that Toneri is on par with a normal Rennigan user, like Nagato, and that he is on par with EMS Madara .



That's not what canonical sources say.



Must I remind you that in both cases in which the moon was created, Both Hagoromo and Sasuke were aided by Hamura [Byakugan weilder] and Naruto [Senjutsu weilder] ? The Rennigan user cannot create a moon on their own, as both of these cases show that the joint effort of a Rennigan user and someone equal to them in power was needed in order to create the moon.

And yeah, Rennigan has got nothing to destroy the moon . Don't kid yourself.

*sigh. This is going to be a loooong day.


1) Madara's limbo was strong enough to repel all nine tailed beasts in a single instance

You must be registered for see links

, suggesting that it's capable of using some form of doujutsu to be capable of knocking over a tailed beast.

Databook:

Limbo Hengoku

Perceiving this phantom is impossible, the enemies unpreparedness invites disaster.

A person who posses the Rinnegan can intervene in an adjacent world, an extremely distance world. In that space a shadow is produced, which everyone who is connected with the current world can't feel. Not only will the jutsu user gain a duplicate of himself with equal ability, but it will also be invisible. Squaring of against a user, counter attack is impossible, going up against this ability will result in one losing against such a powerful enemy

The Rinnegan can shape one shadow. With a complete set of two Rinnegan it can shape 4.

That speaks for itself.



2) Sasuke's rinnegan having tomoe does not mean anything. It's a special variant gifted by hago. The appearance is nothing, it all boils down to the prowess, which is the same for all rinnegans. All MS have a different look, but multiple different MS's are seen to use the same doujutsu like susanoo. If you split someone's power to two different people, wouldn't the unison/fusion of those two people have the exact same power as person 1? That's how it works with the indra and ashuras descendants. I don't see what's so hard to understand about it. All rinnegans have the same power, and they all start at different places. The paths shown by nagato come as a basic and then the rinne user gains a bonus, whether ame or limbo, whatever it is. Once that user masters his rinnegan, which neither sasuke nor madara did, they will have complete and full access to all rinnegan doujutsu. Therefore madara would have eventually been able to use ame, and vice versa with sasuke. Simple. As. That.


3) Hagoromo was born with the rinnegan. So? Kaguya's power simply went two ways. Rinnegan to hago and Byakugan to Hamura. Nothing more, nothing less. He unlocked the powers which that eye offers by training his eye. That doesn't mean when he was born with it he had access to every power the rinnegan offered. lmao wuuut. Every eye needs mastery.

4) Kaguya never showed any six path jutsus because she was nerfed. Simple as that. How the bloody f*** would naruto and sasuke defeat the strongest character if she had access to all of her power? They could barely keep up with dimension shifting.


5) A rinnegan user can create a moon. Lmao. Chibaku tensei is essentially a mini version of the moon. It's not clear as to why a second partner is needed as their is no consistency between hamura and naruto's power. One can speculate that kishi did that two show that sasuke and naruto in the end working together just as their predecessors did (hamura and hago).

6) lmao @ rinnegan has nothing to destroy the moon. You're not serious right? A rinne user can simply deconstruct the moon without effort via gravitational manipulate/bansho ten'in ect.


7)

You must be registered for see links

Here Tenseigan is compared to the only version of madara that had rinnegan. Lel and that's madara with one rinnegan.

Sure, tenori and his tenseigan can compete with nagato, someone whom the eyes don't belong to. Obito did once say that the rinnegan is much more powerful with its original owner. So in hindsight tenori is capable of competing a washed down version of a rinnegan.


Also, one had to sacrifice thousands of byakugan eyes to get a power any where near of what Rinnegan is capable of.


Rinnegan > Tenseigan. Period​

 

[FemmeFatale]

Madara is like the Micheal Jordan of the Naruto verse,
They all want to be like Mad

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Tenseigan is the best but is SHortlived.
I think it is under the category of being overrated, unless we get to see its maximum utility.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Alright, I'm going to destroy the idea that Madara's far above Toneri if at all. (yes, I just read Lost Wood's post)

Please watch this video at the parts that I point out.


[video=youtube;TjUWS_2BiCs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjUWS_2BiCs[/video]


2:25 onward a bit. What do you see? You see Naruto and all his clones floating still and then they suddenly fly forward. That's not taking advantage of low gravity, that's flying.

4:45

You see Shikimaru and Sakura coming down with Sai's birds. So, this is not something anybody on the moon can do. Therefore, Naruto has to have a degree of Rikkudo chakra in addition to BSM for this to happen, and anybody saying otherwise is clearly in denial. So please, stop with the "Toneri lost to KCM" BS. You're not fooling anyone but yourself. He was fighting on par with Naruto with full BSM and Rikkudo chakra.

Toneri also tanks a point-blank ransengan by blocking it with no damage. Toneri displays a level of TSB mastery in this film that Madara hasn't. He adds his own tenseigan chakra to the TSBs, fragements them to smaller ones to make barrages, and uses them to form attacks Madara can only dream of (slicing the moon in half with a giant golden sword beam). In addition to this, Toneri uses gravity manipulation at the start of the fight like Deva Path. If this is the same thing as what's causing the moon to collapse, his ability with gravity control>=Madara's. On top of this, he has a monster that was beating the crap out of BSM/Rikkudo Kurama, and tanked a TBB from him with no visible damage and only knocked away.



So, Madara fans. What damage control do you want to do now?

 

[MAN OF SIN]

I thought it was obvios that Naruto doesn't have RS chakra...
Narutoverse fisics aren't the same as the Real World's physics.
There isn't a really a propper argument for this, it might be a plothole. The whole movie should be seen before judging.
Anyways, Naruto not having Gudoudama is more than enough evidence.

Where was it stated that they were moving around like that because of their location? Gravity is also shown to be on the moon.

I edited my post, showing a Map of the Narutoverse.

That's the not Narutoverse but the ninja nations. You can even tell the map isn't complete with it cutting landscape. As well as the that Land of Toads is stated to be far off that map.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Cool eye, great abilities.



Still fodderized by Kcm naruto which is the little power naruto truely posses. Rm naruto fodderized low to mid diff.
Sasuke had a little to no screentime because he would destroy toneri.
Madara with rinnegan negs.
Obito negs in all of his forms

-jubito-rinn/kamui obito - dms obito is when he negs meduim. Diff
Dms kakashi negs
Kaguya


Toneri is fodder and compared to one of the stronges?? Loll naruto didnt even use truth seeking balls anu form of biju ransegan of blitz speed
Such pity

Read this post.

Its not KCM... at the very least its BSM. His whiskers are thicker plus he has the eye shape of Kurama's eyes merged with Sage Mode. You'd have to be a retard to believe its KCM.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Watch people still try and down play it with shit like "1000 years worth of sealed byakugan is equal to 2 pairs of sharingan" when in reality the sharingan doesn't evolve into the rennigan at all, Indra and ashura chakra awakens it.

Meaning if Hashirama got Madara's DNA, he'd have rennigan, just without the Sharingan. so Sharingan isn''t a requirment.

Hence why Madara can't access Susano'O when using Rennigan. And also why Nagato was unable to revert his eyes back to EMS, unlike Kakashi who can freely change between 3T and MS.

It's because they're two separate dojutsus.

EMS is Sharingan's limit. Tenseigan is Byakugan's limit.

 

[Honord Sage]

Tenseigan has ben confirmed its now part of the Naruto Universe and it’s a possibility Hamura pass this trait to Hinata who might have past it to Her children, so you may be on the look out for it in the new series if the children like Buruto manifest it in the series.

 

[HiddenSound]

all the Madara and Naruto fanboyz are coming here to spank you, good luck XD

Seeing how both of those fanbases are filled to the brim with dipshits and retards, I don't think luck is necessary against them.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Black Zetsu was just a plot device to get rid of Madara. He has no feats or strength. Eveyone who can think logically should now that this Zetsu-move made absolutely no sense.
One eye Maddy survived any attack, like Gais 8 gates, Narutos lava shuriken, beeing cut in half by Sasuke etc. He had Limbo which have the same abilities as the original (especially shared vision, so Madara should've seen Zetsu coming) and possessed six paths senjutsu, whereby he should've been able to sense Kurozetsus move.
Of course, a two eyed JJ Maddy would stomp that ugly unicorn-pokemon.

I think Madara saw BZ coming but he did not expect a betrayal since he believed BZ is his will.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I thought for sure my comment would rustle some jimmies .

 

[Shruikan]

Is this thread still going?Cmon people the Tenseigan isnt going to be in Part 3.Its poster boy was rejected in Part 3 Lol It was just something introduced to make people look for something more in a love story Lol

 

[WalksInShadows]

Alright, I'm going to destroy the idea that Madara's far above Toneri if at all. (yes, I just read Lost Wood's post)

Please watch this video at the parts that I point out.


[video=youtube;TjUWS_2BiCs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjUWS_2BiCs[/video]


2:25 onward a bit. What do you see? You see Naruto and all his clones floating still and then they suddenly fly forward. That's not taking advantage of low gravity, that's flying.


So, Madara fans. What damage control do you want to do now?

i am surprised that some ppl can't seriously tell the difference between flying and diving, which is what was actually going on there. Dude just used gravity to direct himself and the clones towards a target, which is a little concept used by sky divers and hang gliders. If Naruto and those clones were truly flying, he'd have the TSBs....and that is literally the only means with which Naruto was ever able to fly. If you spent more effort looking at that right and less with trying to find somethiing to antagonize a fanbase with, you might have actually known what you were talking about.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

i am surprised that some ppl can't seriously tell the difference between flying and diving, which is what was actually going on there. Dude just used gravity to direct himself and the clones towards a target, which is a little concept used by sky divers and hang gliders. If Naruto and those clones were truly flying, he'd have the TSBs....and that is literally the only means with which Naruto was ever able to fly. If you spent more effort looking at that right and less with trying to find somethiing to antagonize a fanbase with, you might have actually known what you were talking about.

Diving is related to air resistance. There was no actual resistance there, and nothing to warrant that level of acceleration. You could clearly see a shockwave from the start of his movement. Nice try.


absence of TSBs/=/no rikkudo chakra. What do you see here?

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Naruto with Rikkudo chakra with no TSBs.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Diving is related to air resistance. There was no actual resistance there, and nothing to warrant that level of acceleration. You could clearly see a shockwave from the start of his movement. Nice try.


absence of TSBs/=/no rikkudo chakra. What do you see here?

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Naruto with Rikkudo chakra with no TSBs.

not a single thing on this entire page says/suggests what you think it does. That chakra was used in undoing MT, so like i said.....you should have paid better attention to detail like most everybody else did when it happened instead of looking so much into something to use in antagonizing a fan base. Since you're going to bring up there being no air resistance because he was on the moon as "proof", he shouldn't have been able to say anything either because there is no air in space.

 

[NaruKido Sennin]

You have to be pretty retarded if you think that was KCM.

IKR? i keep hearing that sh-- over and over and im like.... why? i mean just look at those thick whiskers that are normally seen in bijuu mode....... i get why ppl are confused because i dont know what the hell it is either. definitely not KCM lol (no dis)

 

[Ensifer]

Closing the thread, it went longer than it should and to be honest I personally don't like how it's featured to promote "Character Vs" bashing and unrelated nonsense.