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Great post. Made Rin very special. We got our selves a Hyuuga Obito right here.
The Last of Sakura's character.
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As you said yourself, Sasuke saw through her deception (pretending she wants to join him) and her real intent (to kill him) and he simply struck first and Kakashi saved her. You mention Sakura not having the will to go through with it, so what?
Sasuke is a sharingan user yes but he is not a mind reader, and he was half blind anyway, and even if he was a mind reader, he would still be justified in trying to kill her. Why would he knock her out when she had the intent to kill him? This is the shinobi world, killing your enemy is the best way to eliminate the threat, especially when said enemy tried to kill you (her strength of will is irrelevant, it's the intent that matters).
You say Sasuke was trying to kill everyone, that is technically incorrect. Sure, he had the intention to destroy the hidden leaf in the future, but they didn't know that when they decided to kill him, they only knew that he attacked the summit and killed Danzo (who has the longest list of crimes against the leaf by the way, and who they vehemently opposed as Hokage).
The fact of the matter is that everything Sasuke did against Sakura and Kakashi (specifically at the summit) was self defense. It was a simple matter of kill the enemy before they kill you. I'm not sure what 'punch' you are talking about that wasn't intended to kill, frankly, I don't remember Sakura ever trying to punch Sasuke, and I wasn't refering to such a thing, I'm talking about the fact that she tried to stab him with a poisoned kunai.
By the way you don't have to try so hard to convince me that Sakura is not a likeable character, although I do believe that cleaning her house and the taunting/playful remark she made about stealing the position of Hokage from Sasuke and Naruto are completely irrelevant and prove nothing regarding her character. Also, I don't think Sakura is a 'bad character' in the true sense of the phrase, she has a bad and dislikeable personality, but she is a good character because she is a realistic character and fits into Kishi's diverse collection of characters.
We have a headstrong and no nonsense woman (Temari), a shallow, confused, and insecure popular girl who takes out her frustrations by bullying and abusing a dorky and unpopular boy who has a lame crush on her (Sakura), and shy girl and insecure but kind and loving girl (Hinata), a normal and laid back girl (Tenten), and a confident, self assured but somewhat shallow girl (Ino), and a slutty fangirl (Karin). Then we have powerful women who are strong leaders (Tsunade, Mei, and Konan), sadistic women (Anko, Kin Tsuchi), powerful wormonger, manipulative, and controlling women (Kaguya), etc etc. So yes, I dislike Sakura's personality and I would most likely never date someone like her, nor even befriend her probably, but she is not a bad character in the story sense of the phrase, she is a realistic character.
Sasuke and Naruto have MANY flaws themselves, but ofcourse women always get special attention. People are always complaining on behalf of women and always making them out to be victims in every scenario. Most of the complaints made about Sakura's characters I could list the same about Naruto. Obsession with Sasuke? Both Naruto and Sakura are guilty, I could argue Naruto is even worse. Loving a person who abuses you and constantly turns down your affections, often with rude insults? Both Naruto and Sakura are guilty, it's even more ironic that Sakura is the one doing that to Naruto. Refusing to take no for an answer and pestering the other constantly? Both are guilty. But ofcourse all these feminists complain about Sakura being made like that but not Naruto.
The same people who complain about Sakura, Hinata, and Konan having a large chunk of their character revolving around a guy praise Obito for his obsession with Rin, Jiraiya with Tsunade, and Naruto with Sakura. It's honestly quite disgusting. Anyway, sorry for the long rant, I made have drifted off topic there a bit, or and my primitive phone don't allow me to space paragraphs, you'll have to bare the wall of text unfortunately, or you can just not read it, lol
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This.
After this moment sakura really didnt develop much more. She almost developed when she took the resolve to kill sasuke. But then she regressed again. Even her commiting to kill sasuke and then later changing her mind as she realized something would have been fine. But instead here is how it was. "I love sasuke." " Im going to kill sasuke" "oh I love sasuke again"
No progression, or explanation for her reasoning(even if it is woman emotional roller coaster reasoning)
The thing people dont understand, is what LOVE actually is. It is still caring for someone even if they become or are the most vile thing ever. Love the PERSON, hate the ACTIONS.
I never have really hated sakura. She mostly just bored me.
However in the end, I have 3 gripes about her character.
1. Inconsistant development(this could also be incomplete development)
2. She is a girl with a crush, to randomly have deep love for sasuke. She literally had zero development for her commitment. Kishi could have at least had a arc, where something happened and sasuke took care of her, or did something that began her deep feelings instead of the childish crush.
Basically kishi needed to develop sakuras love for sasuke, like he did for her relationship with naruto(it was gradual, and you could see some real changes progress, as she moved from hating him, to caring deeply about him)
3. Her fighting ability. Kishi did not have to really do much. Give her a fight like with sasori, or let her show off some genjutsu or something. Instead she showed no fighting ability other than "HULK SMASH". Taijutsu in addition to senjutsu affects juubi jins. Kishi could have given her a couple of pages, and had her do some serious damage to juubito or juubidara. But instead literally nothing.
I have no real problem with the ending. I have no problem with her loving sasuke. I have no problem with her jumping back to sasuke as soon as he stops being evil. I do have a problem about a lack of transition from girl with crush, to girl with true love. Chuunin exams almost did it, but it just wasnt enough.
To conclude. My gripes with sakura really are just my gripes with the manga period. It just needs some more material. I dont have problems with what is there. It just needs some kishi-made canon fillers. Give us more.
I mean the anime seamlessly blended in additional v2 naruto vs pain fighting(though the animation was really kinda rough) Kishi could easily blend in canon fightings(taijutsu and such) in his existing fights. He could show gai and kakashi beating the seven swordsmen. ETC.
i can see that you are an ns fan you didn't care about sakura or her abilities you just wanted to see with who she is going to end up togheter with and it was with sasuke so what, he apologized to her.because of that people still call her undevolped? she is now the strongest kunoichi in the whole narutoverse and she even isn't coming from a op clan like uchiha,senju, hyuga or from the uzumaki and ppl still call her a crappy character -facepalm-
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I completely agree with this post.
Haruno Sakura was my favorite character up until... say, that second confession before Sasuke and Naruto's last fight in the series. I was really, really angry and incredulous. The thoughts she had before, such as thinking that Sasuke doesn't care about her when Naruto and him saved her when she was stabbed by Madara even though in a very bad situation to be even entertaining the thought long enough to just even think it, I had batted away the doubt, thinking that surely her time to express her change will come.
What happened? I was waiting for her to show something to prove about her spirit and her position in the whole series, and I was quite estatic when she defeated Sasori and took a blade in the gut to save Chiyo and such.
But it seemed in the last few chapters, Kishimoto was trying a bit too hard for SasuSaku to make sense. Yes, I have been shipping that couple as an OTP for three years, but I still don't know how that was managed. Sakura's "please take me with you" panel in chapter 699 really didn't help. In fact, she just reverted back to three years ago. The SasuSaku hints (Sasuke catching Sakura and those eye contact panels, him saying sorry to her, him poking her forehead, ect.) in the last several chapters were put there for a reason, but I am very curious to see how it all happened. A few hundred chapters of not interacting much, the last meeting was when they both tried to kill each other, Sasuke not caring if she died... ect.
I cannot say any more for Sakura's character. I adored her for a long time as someone with potential to become strong in every aspect, but it seems Kishimoto didn't really strive on that. I am waiting for the Last Naruto movie and see if Sakura can redeem herself. I still admire her a lot, and I understand her love for Sasuke. But I really didn't like how her character went twelve again.
I originally liked Sakura for her realistic antics, and I guess I still do. But it's just the way Kishimoto portrayed her in those last few chapters that really hit me as time warped.
Haruno Sakura was my favorite character up until... say, that second confession before Sasuke and Naruto's last fight in the series. I was really, really angry and incredulous. The thoughts she had before, such as thinking that Sasuke doesn't care about her when Naruto and him saved her when she was stabbed by Madara even though in a very bad situation to be even entertaining the thought long enough to just even think it, I had batted away the doubt, thinking that surely her time to express her change will come.
What happened? I was waiting for her to show something to prove about her spirit and her position in the whole series, and I was quite estatic when she defeated Sasori and took a blade in the gut to save Chiyo and such.
But it seemed in the last few chapters, Kishimoto was trying a bit too hard for SasuSaku to make sense. Yes, I have been shipping that couple as an OTP for three years, but I still don't know how that was managed. Sakura's "please take me with you" panel in chapter 699 really didn't help. In fact, she just reverted back to three years ago. The SasuSaku hints (Sasuke catching Sakura and those eye contact panels, him saying sorry to her, him poking her forehead, ect.) in the last several chapters were put there for a reason, but I am very curious to see how it all happened. A few hundred chapters of not interacting much, the last meeting was when they both tried to kill each other, Sasuke not caring if she died... ect.
I cannot say any more for Sakura's character. I adored her for a long time as someone with potential to become strong in every aspect, but it seems Kishimoto didn't really strive on that. I am waiting for the Last Naruto movie and see if Sakura can redeem herself. I still admire her a lot, and I understand her love for Sasuke. But I really didn't like how her character went twelve again.
I originally liked Sakura for her realistic antics, and I guess I still do. But it's just the way Kishimoto portrayed her in those last few chapters that really hit me as time warped.
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It wouldn't make sense if she ended up with anyone other than sasuke.
Sakura new her feelings, she knew no matter how much she tried she couldn't not love sasuke. It does not mean she lacks respect for herself, but would rather accept her feelings rather than have a constant battle.
If she tried to love another man, she would just be putting her feelings for sasuke into that person. Using them to fill the void, rather than truely loving them. Them being together, shows how powerful both Naruto and Sakura's love for sasuke was.
There is NOTHING wrong with her wanting to go with sasuke IMO. I still think she is a bad character, and am an avid "hater".
She simply wanted to finally experience a life with sasuke, she wanted to validate her feelings how is that wrong?
Remember guys we're dealing with teengers, I know plenty of people who have been in "love" for years with people they've never met. Nothing about sakura's feelings are unnatural, she just would've been stronger. Since at the end she just looked like sasuke's *****. Really sasuke could never give any other woman the same attention he gives to Sakura.
They both couldn't fully love anyone,better it be that they are together and apart. Out of all canons, they are only two that i'm genuinely interested in though. Everyone else is predictable, but how would sasuke and sakura be as a family.
Also Sakura and Sasuke ship is the most popular in Japan. The relationship as a whole is more understandable in Japanese culture. If her feelings were true, it makes sense she would still love sasuke after all the shit he did. I think deep down sakura knew, sasugai loved her.
Sakura new her feelings, she knew no matter how much she tried she couldn't not love sasuke. It does not mean she lacks respect for herself, but would rather accept her feelings rather than have a constant battle.
If she tried to love another man, she would just be putting her feelings for sasuke into that person. Using them to fill the void, rather than truely loving them. Them being together, shows how powerful both Naruto and Sakura's love for sasuke was.
There is NOTHING wrong with her wanting to go with sasuke IMO. I still think she is a bad character, and am an avid "hater".
She simply wanted to finally experience a life with sasuke, she wanted to validate her feelings how is that wrong?
Remember guys we're dealing with teengers, I know plenty of people who have been in "love" for years with people they've never met. Nothing about sakura's feelings are unnatural, she just would've been stronger. Since at the end she just looked like sasuke's *****. Really sasuke could never give any other woman the same attention he gives to Sakura.
They both couldn't fully love anyone,better it be that they are together and apart. Out of all canons, they are only two that i'm genuinely interested in though. Everyone else is predictable, but how would sasuke and sakura be as a family.
Also Sakura and Sasuke ship is the most popular in Japan. The relationship as a whole is more understandable in Japanese culture. If her feelings were true, it makes sense she would still love sasuke after all the shit he did. I think deep down sakura knew, sasugai loved her.
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Should we be bothered... Itz like crying over spilt milk if y'all asked me. But seriously u can't compare her to Karin who narrowly escaped death. Besides the whole village forgave Sasuke(I believe because he redeemed himself). And so did Naruto. Infact Naruto put up with Sasukes' bullshit more than anyone else. Xo kishi is still on point. Rethink and stop being blinded by sentiments.
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i will always love sakura. she's my fav and some replies in here makes me puke. a lot of butthurt nice guys .
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Her name is also derived from Saraswati, the Hindu goddess of knowledge. Said Goddess also has connections with Indra .
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I found this post on youtube this sums this up basically
Alright, let's get some things straight :
1/ Sakura has always loved Sasuke (much like every other ***** in the Ninja Academy with the exception of a few girls) and only started to respect Naruto as a person when Sasuke admonished her for saying that him acting like a goofball is due to Naruto not having parents. Hinata respected Naruto from day one because she identifies with his loneliness and struggle to better himself. Call it pity or whatever, but Hinata is much more empathetic than Sakura ;
2/ Sakura didn't see any worth in Naruto until he saved her ass from Gaara and when she discovered that he was a Jinchuriki and was constantly targeted by Akatsuki. Hinata, on the other hand, always believed in Naruto's potential and dreams even before he became famous ;
3/ Sakura, no matter how strong she became, was always a thorn in Naruto's side : during Sasuke's defection, she didn't go with the search party. When they met Sasuke for the first time after 3 years, she just stood there like an idiot, whining. And don't get me started on the Pain arc... She stood there not doing anything (not even properly healing the citizens, most of the healing was done by Katsuyu) and whining again. Hinata, unlike Sakura, didn't have much focus at first because she's a supporting character, but her role shifted slowly : she encouraged Naruto prior to his battle against Neji, held her own against Guren and risked her life defending Naruto against Pain. She didn't shed a single tear out of helplessness and never asked for help. She only cries out of frustration because she isn't strong enough to be truly helpful to Naruto.
4/ Sakura seems to always dump her problems and issues on Naruto - hell, even Sai pointed it to her after Karui and Omoi beat the living daylights out of Naruto because he wouldn't rat out Sasuke. Hinata shouldered her own problems on her own and was motivated by Naruto's determination. She never asked for his help at all.
5/ Lots and lots of beatings, insults and other forms of abuse from Sakura... Hinata only slapped Naruto once to snap him out of Obito's rhetoric.
Long story short :
1/ Guys wanting to ban a manga because a fictional pairing didn't happen is nothing short of moronic. I don't think these guys have any brains in their heads ;
2/ Given the abovementioned reasons, the pairings Naruto-Hinata and Sakura-Sasuke are logical : in an ideal world (a manga world in this case), the good guy gets the nice (and in Hinata's case, freaking hot) girl and the ***** gets the *******.
Alright, let's get some things straight :
1/ Sakura has always loved Sasuke (much like every other ***** in the Ninja Academy with the exception of a few girls) and only started to respect Naruto as a person when Sasuke admonished her for saying that him acting like a goofball is due to Naruto not having parents. Hinata respected Naruto from day one because she identifies with his loneliness and struggle to better himself. Call it pity or whatever, but Hinata is much more empathetic than Sakura ;
2/ Sakura didn't see any worth in Naruto until he saved her ass from Gaara and when she discovered that he was a Jinchuriki and was constantly targeted by Akatsuki. Hinata, on the other hand, always believed in Naruto's potential and dreams even before he became famous ;
3/ Sakura, no matter how strong she became, was always a thorn in Naruto's side : during Sasuke's defection, she didn't go with the search party. When they met Sasuke for the first time after 3 years, she just stood there like an idiot, whining. And don't get me started on the Pain arc... She stood there not doing anything (not even properly healing the citizens, most of the healing was done by Katsuyu) and whining again. Hinata, unlike Sakura, didn't have much focus at first because she's a supporting character, but her role shifted slowly : she encouraged Naruto prior to his battle against Neji, held her own against Guren and risked her life defending Naruto against Pain. She didn't shed a single tear out of helplessness and never asked for help. She only cries out of frustration because she isn't strong enough to be truly helpful to Naruto.
4/ Sakura seems to always dump her problems and issues on Naruto - hell, even Sai pointed it to her after Karui and Omoi beat the living daylights out of Naruto because he wouldn't rat out Sasuke. Hinata shouldered her own problems on her own and was motivated by Naruto's determination. She never asked for his help at all.
5/ Lots and lots of beatings, insults and other forms of abuse from Sakura... Hinata only slapped Naruto once to snap him out of Obito's rhetoric.
Long story short :
1/ Guys wanting to ban a manga because a fictional pairing didn't happen is nothing short of moronic. I don't think these guys have any brains in their heads ;
2/ Given the abovementioned reasons, the pairings Naruto-Hinata and Sakura-Sasuke are logical : in an ideal world (a manga world in this case), the good guy gets the nice (and in Hinata's case, freaking hot) girl and the ***** gets the *******.
