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It's not an opinion, any person with the simplest of grasp on what a heroine is knows Sakura fails flat on her massive forehead. I wouldn't expect you to understand.
Says the person who ran away from the base after the load bull$#!t he sprouted about Kaguya failed Lol
I'm not a "Hinata wanker" .... I know what's wrong with her character, and I do admit it when I need to, unlike you, who refuses to see the blatant failure Sakura's character is.... the only one who enjoys fapping to any character here is yourself.
Did i ever said Sakura was brilliantly written char or Did say sakura was well written char ,No ;Lol
U r the biggest Hinata fapper on the base making half @$$ed assumptions about everythin.U read thid manga only becoz of hinata its derivatives NH and subtle Hyuga clan wank so u r not the one to talk :coffee:
And don't call me a wanker, it could get you an infraction.
Don't care
Why not weren't u crying hinata has massive chakra reserve as she is descendant from Kaguya :coffee:
You can "say the same" all you like, that doesn't change the fact that you're comparing a main character to a side character, you BS troll.
Says the troll who always compares both but then starts crying MC and side char after his wank fails
if u r goinna make excuses then compare hinata with any char
That alone shows you have no idea what you're talking about . Why do you bring Hinata up anyways? Because I like her? So Hinata being a bad character suddenly validates Sakura's character as being bad as well?
I have nvr even said once Sakura is a great char or whatever
But u r the one who wanks Hinata as good char while bashing other.Fan no u r a wanker who tries to justify bull$#!t fanfics.
No it dosen't
what the **** kind of logic goes through your brain?
U r not the one to talk about logic becoz u make half @$$ed assumptions i.e
U assumed Kaguya will become one of the best written female chars mang alongside the side char u wanked but when it failed u started bashing Kishi's writing
Kaguya's horn is weak becoz ur wank failed but as hinata is her descendant she somehow gains massive chakra reserve[despite showing piss poor reserve] so u can wank her
Went far enough to say sakura's punch didn't kill any juubi clones
 
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Does this mean you are also ok with how the pairings ended? If so than why?
Already posted enough in pairing sticky( You can view it if you are not logged in :p) as well as in this thread:



It's not an opinion, any person with the simplest of grasp on what a heroine is knows Sakura fails flat on her massive forehead. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

I'm not a "Hinata wanker" .... I know what's wrong with her character, and I do admit it when I need to, unlike you, who refuses to see the blatant failure Sakura's character is.... the only one who enjoys fapping to any character here is yourself.

And don't call me a wanker, it could get you an infraction.

You can "say the same" all you like, that doesn't change the fact that you're comparing a main character to a side character, you BS troll. That alone shows you have no idea what you're talking about . Why do you bring Hinata up anyways? Because I like her? So Hinata being a bad character suddenly validates Sakura's character as being bad as well? what the **** kind of logic goes through your brain?
It's still all just opinions. Any pairing or relationship or take on character is subjective. People like certain types and do not like others for tons of personal reasons.

And you brought Hinata up in this thread yourself- Repeatedly, which I ended up cleaning. And please, your trolling in name of Hinata is too well known. Granted he could use less offensive language you are not known for being too nice either. So kiss and make up you two or take it to VMs.

I wasn't completely serious with that Sakura comment. Lol. I still like the manga overall too. I also believe that the characters are all like pieces on a chess board, and I also believe it's more important to look at how the characters work together to make a good story, rather than trying to prove "x character>>>y character etc". Nevertheless, the females in this story are very easy for most people to hate on due to lack of development in comparison to the males, as this thread about Sakura(and the other one about Hinata currently) show. I used to think it was about the females lack of power compared to the males, but most people hated the arc about Kaguya(the strongest in the manga), so I guess there's more to it than that.
Females in shonnen or boys shows always end up secondary. They are either devoted mother/wife or they are damsel in distress. Even the most badass ones would be a step behind the main male characters. That's how they are designed. More skillful writers can find a better way to put them, while keeping up this publication line or they just create some token powerful girls for here and there with little significance to main story.

Kishi already declared he struggle with female characters and frankly when you have to constantly think about putting females right there but not let them overshadow the main heroes then hoping for some miracle writing is self defeating. If something 'good' happens in this regard it would be a pleasant surprise otherwise I'm used to not keeping my hopes up, unrealistically. Throughout the literature in action books- I mean even real books- it's been pretty common. Hermione was written by a female not a male.

Do you expect shonnen publishers to address girls instead of guys and tell them= " There are no princes but there are a lot of bums, and you don't want to marry one"?


Kishi didn't use them females for fan service not tried to raise the sale by naked female drawings. That counts for something in my book. I don't have to like Sakura but that doesn't make her unrealistic, nor it makes her any less just because I wished more from her or for her.
 
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I have no complains about this manga till the Kaguya Arc.Its downright bad from there.Also in case no one noticed most of the haters focus mostly on Hinata and Sakura and that's for a reason and its not just pairings
 

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Hinata's past was not even half as sinister. Having a strict father who was disappointed because of her easily giving up and too shy and awkward to make friends for far too long does not equal to being orphaned and hated by all. In fact that phase of her life is more similar to Sasuke's when his father was favouring Itachi. But I don't see Hinata having any automatic chemistry with Sasuke just because of that much, nor him being any inspiration to her. Anyway..It's really a personal opinion on this issue.

What I meant that having painful past is no guarantee of understanding each other, and not having doesn't mean not being able to connect either. It maybe an initial conversation starter but when things go down both would be either arguing over whose past was worse to justify themselves or would start counting each others' weakness in not getting over it or being partially responsible for it.

All you will get is " my pain is greater than yours!! I need more sympathy and understanding and thus you should be more accommodating!!! " Well unless you are married to a version of Naruto, few are that accommodating and if they have beast of painful past within they may go full Kyuubi on you without any control.

Enough empathy and love to help the other to recover and will to put past behind and move on for the better is more important as far as I am concerned. If your partner is not able to do the same, you may still have to leave them behind for your own sanity at times or for the sake of kids if any. It wouldn't do if one partner is able to cope despite his/her pain and other is not and constantly keeps demanding for more. Getting in relationships is easy. To keep them working, one has to work on it.

This is all I am going to say on this matter. It's not even about Hinata or Sakura.
Lol of course it's not that sinister as I already mention, but they both felt neglected by people (Hinata and Father, Naruto, and most of the village. No matter what the reason why Hinata did not have friends does not matter, in the end she did not have friends like Naruto. And like I said earlier also, they all 3 experience the similar past.

Understanding one's feelings is just more than a conversation starter, understanding one's feeling will last until death, again like I said earlier there are other things that helps makes relationships. But the main part is the feelings in most relationships. People that don't understand each other are the one's usually getting up divorce in the end, because they do not know how to relate to the other fully. If the person can relate to your past by sharing similar feelings than odds are you will connect to them way more easier than a person who does not know what your pain really is. Having messed up pastes is nothing to brag about or say one is worst than the others in those relationships, in those relationships it's about helping each through the bad times.

The last part of your post is true, but if you are getting the empathy by someone who doesn't understand what you are going through than it's like just giving a one word reply to a 4 paragraph letter.
 

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We were discussing political aspects here! Were there some significant political aspects in Sakura's actions or her marriage? Or is it that the simplicity of the thread topic eluded your grasp? You are the person who makes arguments that manga depicted Kakashi as gay and I'm the one deluded? ....OK.
The missing nin aspect wasn't political? Am I missing something?

Are you still stuck in that Kakashi rut? You could have done a better job of scrambling out. That Wiki page probably hurled you back in.
 
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No you got it wrong. He or she is not a Hinata wanker. They are one of your kind. Here enjoy.
Don't Bull$#!t shaz
He is the person who wanked hinata and made her kaguya's reincarnation alongside wanking kaguya as one of the best char of NV so the Byakugan wank can be justified.
After kaguya failed a big time he is crying over Kishi's writing skill :coffee:
 

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Don't Bull$#!t shaz
He is the person who wanked hinata and made her kaguya's reincarnation alongside wanking kaguya as one of the best char of NV so the Byakugan wank can be justified.
After kaguya failed a big time he is crying over Kishi's writing skill :coffee:
I am not bullshitting, that person typed it. Don't look at the past, look at the content. Is that a content of a Hinata wanker?

OT: Sakura is a average character. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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I don't know what to make of Lady Byakugan.Sometimes she is a diehard Hinata fan overrating her and the Hyuugas and sometimes she accepts her flaws
 

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He tried to kill her twice you dismiss that as a simple rough patch? Really now

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She also tried to kill him twice and he forgave her, yet I don't see people complaining about that. Kakashi also tried to kill him at the summit, and he forgave Kakashi too, yet I don't see peole complaining about that.
 

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I am not bullshitting, that person typed it. Don't look at the past, look at the content. Is that a content of a Hinata wanker?
The person typed "how kishi failed in writing the story his way
@bolded Today according to CC Hinata got massive chakra boost for being Kaguya's Descendant and Kaguya's horn became thin sheet even though RSM naruto's Bijuu enhanced punch didn't damage it



I don't know what to make of Lady Byakugan.Sometimes she is a diehard Hinata fan overrating her and the Hyuugas and sometimes she accepts her flaws
Yes he accepted the Flaws is Kishi's writing :coffee:
 

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The missing nin aspect wasn't political? Am I missing something?

Are you still stuck in that Kakashi rut? You have done a better job of scrambling out. That Wiki page probably hurled you back in.
And why would that politics would be a relevant discussion in a pairing thread? I don't have a habit of getting off the track like you and rambling about completely non issues without even realizing it. Take your political agenda to a political thread. You should be happy that your great analyses of Kakashi being gay got mentioned. Aren't you the one claiming to have the only perfect understanding of the manga story?

Anyway you are offensive and rude. Don't keep it up.

I am not bullshitting, that person typed it. Don't look at the past, look at the content. Is that a content of a Hinata wanker?

OT: Sakura is a average character. Nothing more, nothing less.
Take it to VM, Shaz. You are not convincing anyone, still take it to VM.
 
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She also tried to kill him twice and he forgave her, yet I don't see people complaining about that. Kakashi also tried to kill him at the summit, and he forgave Kakashi too, yet I don't see peole complaining about that.
First attempt Sasuke was trying to kill everyone.She simply reacted and the punch she was going to use wasn't intended to kill Sasuke BTW
Second and third attempt it was quite clear that she didn't have the resolve to kill him.Sasuke could see right through her deception and yet he tried to kill her first instead of knocking her out

Sakura intended to go through with her foolhardy plan of killing Sasuke without having any resolve because she is thick in the head.

On a side note we also have her saying something about stealing the position of Hokage from the two of them and the last glimpse we get of her is dusting furniture

Sakura as a character is full of bravado but short on delivery needing someone else to do her shit for her
 

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Technically she didn't even try to kill him.Try is when you put in an effort to execute something you thought about.This is precisely where she failed
 

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And why would that politics would be a relevant discussion in a pairing thread? I don't have a habit of getting off the track like you and rambling about completely non issues without even realizing it. Take your political agenda to a political thread. You should be happy that your great analyses of Kakashi being gay got mentioned. Aren't you the one claiming to have the only perfect understanding of the manga story?

Anyway you are offensive and rude. Don't keep it up.
I simply highlighted the aspects of your post that made no sense whatsoever. Sakura's attempts on Sasuke's life had a political leaning behind it, and it IS a part of the pairing debate in almost every thread. Now you are trying to exclude it to validate something, yet again?

Why do you resort to cheery picking?

One of the stupidest argument I have seen in awhile... I use my time the way I like. Better than wasting one's time on something one hates. :lawliet:
We were discussing political aspects here! Were there some significant political aspects in Sakura's actions or her marriage? Or is it that the simplicity of the thread topic eluded your grasp? You are the person who makes arguments that manga depicted Kakashi as gay and I'm the one deluded? ....OK.
Rude? How charming.
 

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Technically she didn't even try to kill him.Try is when you put in an effort to execute something you thought about.This is precisely where she failed
No it doesn't.

She went there with the intent to kill him and tried to do it twice.

Yet, that gets completely ignored for some reason.
 

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true she could not go through with it but i mean she is still a good ninja and the movie will explain why SasuXSaku happened
She is a average ninja and by heroine standards laughably bad

In the movie Sasuke is staying back to protect Kakashi while Sakura is far away on the rescue team and Naruto and Hinata are the sole focus of the movie.I doubt the movie will expand on SS.That's probably the reason why in last chapters SS interactions happened in the manga while NH did not interact
 
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