The Last of Sakura's character.

[shelke]

No all the women in this manga give women a bad name

Women value relationships a lot more than men. A very important point to remember. They even stay in abusive relationships. It's not all that unheard of.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

And how are you helping her case by saying she is not even much relevant or focused? Should i think she is somewhat better because she is not shown much?

I. Am. Not. Going. With. Could. Would. Shoulds.

My point was that it was stupid to compare he to characters who had far more focused and plot relevance.

 

[paratise]

Women value relationships a lot more than men. A very important point to remember. They even stay in abusive relationships. It's not all that unheard of.

It is no all about "valuing the relationship".

A good load of women who stick the abusive relationship are doing that for their childrens' sake. Or many of them do that due to lack of self worth.

Idk how these apply to Sakura though. She seemed confident and did not have kids from Sasuke.

 

[paratise]

My point was that it was stupid to compare he to characters who had far more focused and plot relevance.

Then what is her worth again? Headcanons?
"Far more" is an exaggaration when we speak of guys like Sasori.

 

[BLAZE]

Then what is her worth again? Headcanons?
"Far more" is an exaggaration when we speak of guys like Sasori.

On a serious note if u ever try to debate Hinata fan in VS thread the only thing u get from other side is fanfiction or biased scenario's
They go far enough to say Gentle fist oneshots
Neji's reaction time,speeds and feats r given to Hinata as they r hereditary being passed.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

Then what is her worth again? Headcanons?
"Far more" is an exaggaration when we speak of guys like Sasori.

Sasori was actually relevant to the plot at one point. Unlike Hinata.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Sasori was actually relevant to the plot at one point. Unlike Hinata.

Hinata has never been relevant to the plot until THE LAST. She's mostly just.... there.

 

[Dannie]

She had a fanbase?Whats there about her to like apart from the comic relief moments?

Most, particularly the female fanbase claim to have a resemblance of her so they feel her pain and character.

It's a pretty retarded reason but whatever..

 

[Made in Heaven]

Keep Disliking My posts but dat won't change any fact
The focus Hinata got btw

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Well, she's had focus on her clan somewhat as well. Of course, that's mostly secondary .

In case no one learnt their lesson by now never ever be a fan of any female in Kishi's manga unless you want it to bite you in the ass later on

Too late for that

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I have seen plenty. And i don't see a reason why would she get attempted to be "defended" so much when someone does not even think of her as decently written.


Again with the "side character" thing... How is that an excuse? Best written characters of this series are almost all among the side cast. Orochimaru, Danzo, Gaara, Lee, Neji, Sasori, Kabuto, Kisame for example. They were side characters but i can say they are decent.

It is a very legit excuse. Your post just solidified it. Note, that most of the characters you just listed were, at one point, villains. Villains have a character development advantage. Villains, being the enemies the MC has to beat, or convince to turn, usually end up with development of some sort. They cannot be equated to a side character, which acts as a support, whereas the villains have a huge focus. Also, the villains that lost their villain status and reverted to side characters got bland real fast. Take Neji and Garra for example. As villains, they had very complex characters that made them great, but when they became side-characters, they became one-note characters. To make your point, you need to use side characters that have never been anything else, like Lee and Tenten, and they're pretty much one-note characters like Hinata and Sakura. Note, that I don't see anybody hating on Ten Ten despite her remarkably bland character. Why? Because she doesn't have much screen time to get old, that's why. Note that Hinata has never really had any focus, but that Naruto was around, so she didn't even have the chance to develope because she's always off-screen. Heck, one could argue that Hianta and Lee are very similar. I'm serious. Both are low-skill hard-work people, but the reason why some like you like Lee better is probably because he gives a very visible standing and give a power trip while Hinata has not really had a full-scale fight to show what she's got.

Probably. This manga was going downhill for a good while.

I disagree strongly. There's a crap ton of things to like about part 2. I personally like it more than part 1. Part 2 was when the development of the MCs finally started to kick in while Part 1 was pretty much only about K11 with a bit of Naruto and Sasuke thrown in. Part 1 was the set up, part 2 is the actual manga moving along.

No it does not. Clan is just related to having a power from linage in this manga. Not having a clan also a reason for sort of development, a good example would be Lee and Gai, whose characters' rich points came from not having a heritage or granted powers. Sakura did have the similar potential, but it was not written well. Having a clan and not having a clan offers different potentials, but these potentials are not inferior to each other.

No. Not a chance. Sakura had none of that potential. Sorry, but Sakura has always been an "I wish" character where as Guy and Lee have been "I will" characters.

For a fictional character, yes. If it was for something like a country i could not judge based on what i have seen, because what i have not seen would exist regardless. Same can not be said for a fictional character who is what the author have written. What i have seen is what author have written. I can not judge her over headcanons.

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Everything has a lot to work on unless they are perfect.
I have a blank paper. It has a lot to work on. I have a piece of fabric. It has a lot to work on. You know who has "a lot to work on"? This guy:

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He is from an orphanage so that gives an interesting and dramatic background. He had relations to Kabuto, one of the most developed characters and biggest villains. He is waiting for Kabuto and concerned over his friends' wounds, so he is a very good guy. If these get to developed he would be so darn awesome. Bet he would be a greater heroine than Sakura too.

But it does not got like that. What have been shown is what have been shown.



A "bad" base rarely exists. Sakura had a good base too, a normal girl with shallow concerns gets into ninja world and starts to grow while trying to fit in a verse filled wth people born with much greater powers.

I can not judge something over the base. I do not go over to a construction site and say "this foundation seems dope, so the building which will built here would be a lot better than the one which is already contructed over there".

No, you can definitely judge a base. Potential is potential, and Hinata had potential if given the opportunity to be fleshed out like Guy was. Sakura had a TERRIBLE base. A simple fangirl that was annoying and cruel, and nothing else, but moans about how she can't do stuff. As I've said before, she's an "I wish" character as opposed to an "I will" character.

 

[BLAZE]

Hinata has never been relevant to the plot until THE LAST. She's mostly just.... there.

Well, she's had focus on her clan somewhat as well. Of course, that's mostly secondary .

but then somehow people make assumptions and fanfics dat r baseless
These came from u CC
u even made her leader of Hyuga clan in the movie without any backup to statement

Top 5 Best Female Written Characters: Tsunade , Ino, Hinata, Kushina, and (soon to be) Kaguya

 

[Made in Heaven]

but then somehow people make assumptions and fanfics dat r baseless
These came from u CC
u even made her leader of Hyuga clan in the movie without any backup to statement

What baseless assumptions have I made aside from that whole Kaguya mess?

Oh, but see, the movie has a line that reads "Hinata's Hyuga Clan" .... with a possessive S. Add that on to the fact that She has the Birth Right, is superior to Hanabi, more relevant as a character, is part of her charcater development, and the fact that Hanabi loses her eyes altogether .... It's pretty clear she's the clan leader... or at least, she will be.

I mean, do tell me .... If not Hinata, who are you expecting to be the Leader?

No, you can definitely judge a base. Potential is potential, and Hinata had potential if given the opportunity to be fleshed out like Guy was. Sakura had a TERRIBLE base. A simple fangirl that was annoying and cruel, and nothing else, but moans about how she can't do stuff. As I've said before, she's an "I wish" character as opposed to an "I will" character.

Sakura should have been made a Senju. It would have provided much more depth to her character .

 

[BLAZE]

What baseless assumptions have I made aside from that whole Kaguya mess?

Oh really.u and ur theories

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Oh, but see, the movie has a line that reads "Hinata's Hyuga Clan" .... with a possessive S.

dat baseless assumption

Add that on to the fact that She has the Birth Right, is superior to Hanabi, more relevant as a character, and the fact that Hanabi loses her eyes altogether ....

Oh f@#k Indra was right and so was neji about hyuga clans crap sack destiny

It's pretty clear she's the clan leader... or at least, she will be.

Assumptions at finest

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

No she gets Panel Time

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Are you character bashing bruh? :leaf: JK!

 

[Made in Heaven]

Oh really.u and ur theories

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You said I make baseless assumptions . That was not a baseless assumption , I had valid reasons to believe what I did

dat baseless assumption

Coming from someone who's English skills are as developed as a snail's, it's no wonder you missed the point.

But let me repeat that regardless: The movie information reads "Hinata's Hyuga Clan", a very clear indication that she may very well be the Clan's leader.

Oh f@#k Indra was right and so was neji about hyuga clans crap sack destiny

Don't know why you're bringing this up, but yeah, I agree .

Assumptions at finest

I'm not assuming things. I suggest you polish up your English if you're having difficulty understanding what I'm saying.

>She's more relevant than Hanabi
>Is superior in strength than her
>Fought in the war
>Has the Birth Right to be heir.
>And most importantly, Hanabi loses her eyes. Don't tell me you think she'll still be the clan leader like that?

Again, I ask .... If not Hinata, who do you expect to be the Clan leader?

 

[Lana Del Taka]

I guess the lesson is to never have a female character from Kishit's as your favorite character. Mine wasn't even shown in the last 2 chapters

 

[SagemodejubihostSasuke]

Sasuke is a pimp, and he has been tnj.

That is all.

 

[Vega]

Yeah I'm not really a pairing person but I see what you mean. I even thought Kakashi says in one chapter during this arc that Sakura is just trying to help Sasuke without relationship goals, guess not lol.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Really? She didn't even appear in 699?! That's sad yo .

Yea, not surprised really. I'm hoping but that we'll see what happens to her and the rest of Taka in the movie but i doubt it.

 

[BLAZE]

You said I make baseless assumptions . That was not a baseless assumption , I had valid reasons to believe what I did

Yes gentle fist is gonna perform a feat which it has not shown till now
Trying to act like Hinata was just gonna stand up and reach to naruto when she was facepalming the ground and Naruto was flying away on gaara's sand

Coming from someone who's English skills are as developed as a snail's, it's no wonder you missed the point.

Coming from someone who has brain size of pea and can't even debate so resorts to half @$$ed fanfictions i m sure u missed the point
I m not Internet to show how good my English skills r and if u have problem with mine or anyones English then go make English base and wank ur English there

Don't know why you're bringing this up, but yeah, I agree .

K

I'm not assuming things. I suggest you polish up your English if you're having difficulty understanding what I'm saying.

@bold laughable
I suggest dat u stop making assumption and fanfics dat may or may not happen in the future and also stop passing it as facts

>She's more relevant than Hanabi

agreed

>Is superior in strength than her

dunno but agreed

>Fought in the war

wut does this even proof

>Has the Birth Right to be heir.

does she even care about it

>And most importantly, Hanabi loses her eyes. Don't tell me you think she'll still be the clan leader like that?

When.In the movie.
Come again after the movie is released

Again, I ask .... If not Hinata, who do you expect to be the Clan leader?

Hiashi is doing pretty fine and does Hyuuga clans lacks jonins or wut

Funny how Blazing Storm called me a troll for this post.

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Appearntly answering a thread's question and stating an opinion is trolling. But him bashing Hinata isn't.Lol

I called u troll becoz despite of all evidence being given about that was not an @$$pull u kept crying it is and u r currently still doing so