The Kyuubi is part of Naruto's power, but not part of EMS Madara's power?

[Zebstrika]

I'm seeing a lot of people make a distinction between EMS Madara and the Kyuubi, which is fine.

But I never see this amount of people making a distinction between Naruto and the Kyuubi, or Jiraiya and his frogs, etc.


The Kyuubi was Madara's Summoning, he was able to control it and fight with it. You can't say because the "Kyuubi doesn't like Madara, therefore it isn't his power"

Manda didn't like Orochimaru, yet Manda is part of Orochimaru's power.
Gamabunta didn't like Naruto, but people still said it was part of Naruto's power.


If you deny the Kyuubi being part of EMS Madara's power then you must also deny Kyuubi, Frogs, Monkeys, etc being part of their respective owner's power.

 

[Sasuke the Boss]

Kyuubi is Madara's full power. its his 100% percent.

It's not naruto's power because naruto relies on kyuubi too much and hes bad without it meaning Madara is the true kyuubi master.

 

[Draphsin]

It is a part of EMS madara's power. Its a tool for him to use

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Kyuubi is Madara's full power. its his 100% percent.

It's not naruto's power because naruto relies on kyuubi too much and hes bad without it meaning Madara is the true kyuubi master.

lol my head hurts reading this.

 

[Isabella95]

Madara isn't his jinchurichi. Naruto is.

Still, Madara can summon it if it's free. So it is part of his power only when it is free. Right now he can only cause stomach pain to Naruto.

 

[bajram]

Kyuubi is Madara's full power. its his 100% percent.

It's not naruto's power because naruto relies on kyuubi too much and hes bad without it meaning Madara is the true kyuubi master.

Too much bullsh1t in one post.

 

[YellowFang]

Yes...
But only when he is possessing it...
It was Madara's power from the time he put it under his control to the time when Hashi pull it out of Madara's control...

But as for Naruto's power, it's his and only his unless and until Naruto dies... or the beast gets extracted.

Edit:
It also seems that once an Uchiha bound Kyuubi with their sharingan, that's the contact signed...
And can be removed by using contract seal as shown by Minato, freeing Kurama from Obito...

And Madara still can summon it while Obito can't...

 

[Uchiha Shikiruire]

No
Naruto was able to summon him because you need a contract to be able to summon those beasts, also Orochimaru did this with Manda. Jiraiya also do this.

Madara simply manipulated the Kyuubi with his Sharingan (This is explained like.. everytime in the manga).
So no, Kyuubi isn't his summoning.

 

[cptenn94]

Kyuubi is Madara's full power. its his 100% percent.

It's not naruto's power because naruto relies on kyuubi too much and hes bad without it meaning Madara is the true kyuubi master.

madara needed kurama to make hashi sweat. EMS madara was not strong enough to make hashi sweat.(as seen when hashi was about to suicide for peace)

Face it...you almighty madara NEEDED kurama just to go head to head with hashi....both him and naruto rely on kuramas powers.(though as an edo with rinnegan vs kages he didnt need kurama)

in no way do i care who is stronger


but to answer the title question. Naruto trained for kuramas power while madara just used sharingan and controlled kurama

kurama is more of narutos power because he WILLINGLY gives naruto power, which makes it narutos power, whereas madara takes the power by force.(so if a friend gives you money, then the money is yours, but if you steal it, it is still his, that you are useing)

But kurama is a power owned by both ninjas, so it doesnt matter whose it is.

 

[Draphsin]

Yes...
But only when he is possessing it...
It was Madara's power from the time he put it under his control to the time when Hashi pull it out of Madara's control...

But as for Naruto's power, it's his and only his unless and until Naruto dies... or the beast gets extracted.

@Bold: Thats not true, It was madara's power until he died and naruto became its jinchuuriki. He still had the ability to summon it prior

 

[AlphaScythian]

Yes it is. Just madara haters say otherwise.
Madara used his power to seize new power.
Sage mode is no different u use ur power to seize new power.

 

[Uchihamadara3]

Yes it is. Just madara haters say otherwise.
Madara used his power to seize new power.
Sage mode is no different u use ur power to seize new power.

this exactly

 

[captainEO]

No
Naruto was able to summon him because you need a contract to be able to summon those beasts, also Orochimaru did this with Manda. Jiraiya also do this.

Madara simply manipulated the Kyuubi with his Sharingan (This is explained like.. everytime in the manga).
So no, Kyuubi isn't his summoning.

WTF are you talking about?

Madara CAN summon the Kyuubi. It is genuinely his summoning.

 

[Xlad]

Everything that a ninja has is considered part of his/her powers.
There really is no point in taking those away.
-Jinchuurikis (Tailed Beasts Powers fighting style)
-Obito with 6 Paths/Tailed Beast Jins or Kurama or Gedo Mazou (Hell, his fighting style revolves using summons as his power)
-Jiraiya, Minato, Naruto with Toads
-Sasuke, Kabuto, Oro with Snakes
-Tsunade with Slugs
-Sasuke with Hawk
-Nagato with Gedo Mazou or Animal Summons

People who like to take those away use the petty excuse that they have the minds of their own.

 

[SpiderRider89]

Kyuubi is Madara's full power. its his 100% percent.

It's not naruto's power because naruto relies on kyuubi too much and hes bad without it meaning Madara is the true kyuubi master.

Your logic fails so hard. Madara utilizes the 9tails and Naruto utilizes the 9tails..... it's a part of their power. Based off of your reasoning of why the Kyuubi isn't a part of Naruto's power also implies Madara's Sharingan aren't a part of his power, because he uses them a lot and he would be weaker withou them.

 

[ROSH2]

No
Naruto was able to summon him because you need a contract to be able to summon those beasts, also Orochimaru did this with Manda. Jiraiya also do this.

Madara simply manipulated the Kyuubi with his Sharingan (This is explained like.. everytime in the manga).
So no, Kyuubi isn't his summoning.

I''am going with this

 

[paratise]

Yes, if he can control it; it's his own power; same thing goes with edo-tensei.

 

[johnny335704]

Kurama is just a power tool used by Ninjas for winning battles. Madara needed it badly against Hashirama. Now Madara needed Juubi badly to stand against Allied Shinobi Force. Naruto needs it badly to fight against powerful ninjas.

 

[YellowFang]

@Bold: Thats not true, It was madara's power until he died and naruto became its jinchuuriki. He still had the ability to summon it prior

Dude, I edited it after rethinking that Madara tried to summon it after his revival...

 

[Sasuke the Boss]

but madara controlls the fox better than naruto. sharingan > jin