[Theory] The Juubi's Weakness: Loneliness

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I won't go too far into it, but I think I managed to discover the Juubi's weakness, and it's the "loneliness".

First of all, I must talk about the Bijuus and the part of Bijuus each entity has in this precise moment.

Kyuubi no Kurama:

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Minato has the Yin inside himself, Naruto has the Yang part. A little part of Kurama's Yin and Yang was used for the Juubi, it was gotten from Ginkaku and Kinkaku brothers who had part of Kurama's chakra, way before Naruto was born.

Hachibi no Gyuuki:

He is still inside Bee. But a little part of his Yang was used for the Juubi, this was taken from the Hachibi's tentacle gotten in Hachibi vs Sasuke's battle.

Nanabi no Choumei, Rokubi no Saiken, Gobi no Kokuou, Yonbi no Son Gokuu, Sanbi no Isobu and Nibi no Matatabi:

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They were present in the reunion with Naruto because they were fighting against him, under the forced command of Tobi. When they were absorbed by the Gedou Mazou, their Bodies were drown in, while their names were kept by Naruto, this is, their Minds. This means that the current Juubi is mostly Yang, while Naruto is mostly Yin, with the exception of Kurama who is Yang inside Naruto, and Yin inside Minato.

Finally, Ichibi no Shukaku:

This creature wasn't summoned in the battle between Naruto and the tailed beasts. So Ichibi has been the whole time inside the Gedou Mazou.

Second, I must explicit a hole I found in the manga: The panel revealing the beasts "Yin" and Kurama's Yang inside Naruto:

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This is a hole in my opinion. Shukaku was not with Naruto when the beasts were talking to him inside his consiousness. Shukaku wasn't present in the battle against Tobi, because there wasn't an Ichibi's Edo Jinchuuriki.



Told this, I think now I can explain myself...

The I think the Juubi still holds Shukaku's Yin part. The Yin of each Bijuu knows about the life experiences of each Jinchuuriki, and we know that Gaara had a very lonely infancy. When Gaara became Kazekage, people accepted Gaara, but the Sunagakure council still was holding Gaara to keep his power calm, so in escence, the beast itself was still being discriminated. This was like this until Ichibi no Shukaku was captured by Deidara and then extracted by Akatsuki. The last feeling Shukaku could experience was the loneliness itself.

As I stated earlier, Juubi's weakness is loneliness. This is because the only Beast Yin inside the Shukaku in this precise moment is the Shukaku. All the others Bijuus had interacted with Naruto and Yang Kurama, and everyone (Hachibi included, because he already interacted with Naruto and Yang Kurama in the pasts issues) have trust in Naruto.

The fear expression of Obito's face in the last chapter was evident. The current Obito (that seems like is mostly being dominated by Juubi's wild Will) has a little Yin support in this moment... Ginkaku/Kinkaku's Kurama (just a tiny part, and we know Kurama was pure Hatred before being sealed inside Naruto) and Shukaku's Full Yin.

Based on this theory, the key to defeat Juubi resides inside Gaara past life: Loneliness. There is one weapon that can defeat the Loneliness and the Hatred inside the current Juubi (both feelings creating the sensation of fear by the way): Love.

But the Juubi is almost mindless at the moment, so we have to wait to see what happens now. The last chapter indeed is the trial to determine if the child of prophecy can reach peace through love, in other words, we will see if Naruto is able to inherit the Sage of Six Path's legacy and will.
 

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Didn't read but the Juubi is a mindless fool i doubt it would be lonely...


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Says he wont "go far into it". . . . . . . . . . . . . Creates the biggest wallo txt ever


Lol na im kidding. Your thread brings up a wild idea that a feeling can actually bring down the juubi. However I have to disagree because Obito became the juubi because of loneliness. If anything then only the feeling of love could take down juubito.
 

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Yup. Gaara is going to appear on the battlefield, and call out to Shukaku while singing "Baby Come Back". Thus Psuedo Rikudou Sennin is defeated.
 

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Yup. Gaara is going to appear on the battlefield, and call out to Shukaku while singing "Baby Come Back". Thus Psuedo Rikudou Sennin is defeated.

This is almost a fact... the Kages will arrive anytime. There is the possibility of Gaara taking a big part on the extraction of Shukaku's from the Juubi.
 

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I think haara will have a big role in this whole mess
 

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This is almost a fact... the Kages will arrive anytime. There is the possibility of Gaara taking a big part on the extraction of Shukaku's from the Juubi.

Gaara is the strongest or will soon be the strongest character with the mastery of Shukaku open extraction (if this happens).

Gaara > All.

Ps. Kakuzu is a close second..
 

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Gaara is the strongest or will soon be the strongest character with the mastery of Shukaku open extraction (if this happens).

Gaara > All.

Ps. Kakuzu is a close second..

Gaara got owned by Deidara and he had the desert to his advantage.
Gaara got owned by Edo Madara.

Gaara is on par with Rock Lee.
 

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THIS IS BRILLIANT. I GET IT NOW. OBITO'S LIFE IS A METAPHOR FOR THE JUUBI'S EXISTENCE.

The Juubi feels nothing. Obito feels nothing. The Juubi feels no pain, Obito feels no pain. Killer Bee, Naruto, Kakashi, know what it takes to fill a hole that you have inside of you. Naruto's is his mom and dad who he said filled him with love before they put the ninetails in him. Kushina was happy despite being a jinchuuriki because she filled herself up with love. Killer Bee's says the thing filling his hole is as bright as the sun. They just have to fill the Juubi's hole.

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Kakashi says "If you reject your friends' feelings and this world just because something didn't go as you wished no one will ever come to you." Is it possible that the Juubi was once a benevolent being. Humanity, either before or during its current dangerous state, has always tried to change it, control it, or destroy it. The tailed beasts know all about what that kind of existence is like. The Juubi is like a diety, its fate is completely connected to the World, so maybe the Sage of Six Paths set everything up so that humans have one more chance to save the Juubi (As long as you don't give up you can still be saved) and either condemn or redeem themselves. If they can save the Juubi, the Juubi will become benevolent again. The Sage of Six Paths said that one day the tailed beasts would be together again but in a different form, after all.

The Juubi/Obito's holes are so big, and they're so hopeless that everybody just does what they usually do to try to deal with them, so what the Juubi needs is the help of somebody who has...... the guts to never give up :vincent:

Remember how Madara told Kurama that he was just a mindless mass of chakra that needed someone to guide it? But when Naruto helped Kurama out the two of them became partners in battle, strategizing, with Kurama sitting cross-legged like a human and deliberating intelligently? So, maybe the Juubi's like that. It's mindless now but it could follow that same path.
 
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THIS IS BRILLIANT. I GET IT NOW. OBITO'S LIFE IS A METAPHOR FOR THE JUUBI'S EXISTENCE.

The Juubi feels nothing. Obito feels nothing. The Juubi feels no pain, Obito feels no pain. Killer Bee, Naruto, Kakashi, know what it takes to fill a hole that you have inside of you. Naruto's is his mom and dad who he said filled him with love before they put the ninetails in him. Kushina was happy despite being a jinchuuriki because she filled herself up with love. Killer Bee's says the thing filling his hole is as bright as the sun. They just have to fill the Juubi's hole.

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Kakashi says "If you reject your friends' feelings and this world just because something didn't go as you wished no one will ever come to you." Is it possible that the Juubi was once a benevolent being. Humanity, either before or during its current dangerous state, has always tried to change it, control it, or destroy it. The tailed beasts know all about what that kind of existence is like. The Juubi is like a diety, its fate is completely connected to the World, so maybe the Sage of Six Paths set everything up so that humans have one more chance to save the Juubi (As long as you don't give up you can still be saved) and either condemn or redeem themselves. If they can save the Juubi, the Juubi will become benevolent again. The Sage of Six Paths said that one day the tailed beasts would be together again but in a different form, after all.

The Juubi/Obito's holes are so big, and they're so hopeless that everybody just does what they usually do to try to deal with them, so what the Juubi needs is the help of somebody who has...... the guts to never give up :vincent:

Remember how Madara told Kurama that he was just a mindless mass of chakra that needed someone to guide it? But when Naruto helped Kurama out the two of them became partners in battle, strategizing, with Kurama sitting cross-legged like a human and deliberating intelligently? So, maybe the Juubi's like that. It's mindless now but it could follow that same path.

My friend, you understood the esence of my post at 100%. + rep for you.
 

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BUMP.

Pointing facts...

Effectively, Obito couldn't control the Juubi's Power until some point:

And the past weakness...






...is still up there.

But it seems my target was a little off. The Juubi's weakness is Senjutsu, but Obito's weakness influenced by the Juubi's stimulae seems to be the fear to be alone.

Obito is becoming eager and eager to start the plan, and from nowhere he is 'sparing lives'...

The manga is starting to take an interesting course.
 

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Spoiler: Edo Rin gives Juubito a kiss and he melts like a witch under water.
 

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smdh... youve made better threads than this...
 

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The picture isn't a plot hole, it has nothing to do with chakra. Also where did you get the tailed beasts gave Naruto their yin chakra?

The whole loneliness thing is pretty out there, and extremely hokey.
 

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"Shaking my damn head"

Hey, thanks a lot. Now I can answer FearxDeath

smdh... youve made better threads than this...

smdh... you've made better counter-arguments to my threads... XD

The picture isn't a plot hole, it has nothing to do with chakra. Also where did you get the tailed beasts gave Naruto their yin chakra?

The whole loneliness thing is pretty out there, and extremely hokey.

Actually, the picture met a pattern... All the bijuus in the picture have been defeated by Naruto at least once.

PS: Forget the thing about the Yin chakra, that theory got kinda discredited in the lasts chapters when the Juubi reached its final form.
 
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Bwahhahhahahah why are you writing thier japanese names? Are you Japanese? Is this a Japanese forum? Do you even speak japanese? lol cornball
 

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Bwahhahhahahah why are you writing thier japanese names? Are you Japanese? Is this a Japanese forum? Do you even speak japanese? lol cornball

3rd generation japanese descendant. Problem? Yes? No? I didn't care anyways, so as your 'respectful opinion' (if it can be called like that) doesn't bring anything constructive to MY thread... you can simply back off and get out of here until you have something more intelligent to share, Mr. Clever Smartass.
 
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3rd generation japanese descendant. Problem? Yes? No? I didn't care anyways, so as your 'respectful opinion' (if it can be called like that) doesn't bring anything constructive to MY thread... you can simply back off and get out of here until you have something more intelligent to share, Mr. Clever Smartass.

lol I still have no idea what the reputation points even mean so If Im supposed to care you did something to it, guess again. Youre probably just a kid, got your feelings hurt. Too bad. Handle it.
 
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