Wafflesdoit69
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Okay guys so theirs a video on YouTube were this guy constantly bashes on naruto fans because some madara fanboys get really hype and compare it to dragonball z which I understand it's not comparable so I wrote this very long message about how instead of explaining to people he became a **** I just want to know if what I said was rightly said or not
[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Dr47xnoY8[/video]
Ok there are so many things to put on point firstly I'm going to say this I understand that naruto fans sometimes get really hype like any series and try comparing it to dragon ball z because if you realize it or not they respect it I to the point where they want to just go on it and compare it. true some fans go over board but using a derogatory term like narutards is jut pathetic one things is trying to prove your point but another is to fuel a flame war it's really pathetic of you especially since you had such good points now as for this ridiculous video of madara vs goku(I know this isn't the video but it applies) it's fine if you wanted to prove how in plain sight goku would topple over madara but you just had to go overboard we'll first of all trying to compare Naruto and DBZ is like comparing space and human autonomy they have completely different rules there not the same like any series you simply cannot compare them and I'm pretty sure the only reason the DBZ characters are this strong is because the author never intended there power levels to be compared to another series he did it for the sake of his plot just how naruto power scale goes for it's plot now your trying to be logical over how DBZ destroys Naruto not adding that your obviously biased towards DBZ but this is anime/manga there is no logic in this it has it's own logic. so here's where your argument falls apart and put in mind that I'm a huge fan of both series I grew up with dragon ball and dragon ball z and currently I'm loving naruto and bleach because it's ongoing and gives me the old DBZ vibes now if the naruto universe were to somehow magically appear in the DBZ universe "they wouldn't use chakra because it doesn't exist there" and honestly they would use ki even though there the same but I'll get to that later and for the sake of the argument lets their two different things which technically it is in there universe so ninja training is very strict and is very adaptive they would figure out that ki is there only means of fighting and would adapt to use it very very effectively now madara is a genies he is the reincarnation of indira who was gifted in using every ability that is possible for him in the universe now if he was in the dragonball z universe true saiyans are more adaptive because they have evolved over time and madara would most likely not have his sharigan because it's a bloodline trait that originates from chakra (shinju version) but never underestimate and uchiha or it would prove fatal what people always forget no matter how strong and opponent is mind over Strength even though the DBZ universe don't really go with that route as much as the naruto universe does which could prove Fatal for DBZ. Madara after having trained with enough time because right off the bat wouldn't be fair it's like an adult fighting a child you have to let him mature and train obviously with ki would be a dangerous opponent he wouldn't have his techniques or any for that matter but he genius mind and adaptive fighting style would create different techniques he could be more dangerous than freezer, the androids, cell no one could say how powerful he could become human or not which let's not forget something very important madara in the past has added different DNA To make himself more powerful I'm pretty sure madara would know he would be outmatch no matter how hard he trains so like the brilliant tactician he is he would probably try to get some saiyan DNA and do experiments to make sure he can obtain that power and if worse comes to worse he can always collect those dragon balls and wish himself as a saiyan or something clever
no one can say how strong anyone would be in that universe now if DBZ came to naruto universe there ki wouldn't be shit now I'm going to say this as logically as possible like you try to do but not really that in naruto ki isn't the same as in DBZ or people, ninja would use it like they do best case scenario it would come in as natural energy so it would be some sort of sage mode that they can use naturally because of their training because as the DBZ wiki says it's everywhere but it also says ki is in every person and thy draw it out from themselves but I'm just gonna use what you said so you could say the ten tails is ki physical form because it is just natural energy and I'm not even going to bring rikudou madara I'm not saying he would win but he would be a great opponent and we don't even know how powerful he is yet. But here comes the number one thing that will crumble your argument and it's that your basing how much the naruto universe wouldn't do shit to the DBZ because your using your facts from oh wait the DBZ wiki where it only counts in said DBZ universe now how unbiased how unfairly did you make this now here's the even bigger mistake you made because chakra and ki which is translated to chi or more referred to as qi ARE THE SAME yeah that's right I said it ki official definition is the spiritual and physical energy of a person where does that sound familiar? Oh wait chakra hits the spot now it wouldn't be fair if I used the naruto definition because I'll be a hypocrite and im as far from that ki and chakra are the ying and yang of a person even the DBZ wiki says it could either be positive or negative now this applies to a number of thing but were talking about fighting which is martial arts because that's what your argument is about who would win and we'll that's the answer ki is in General is everything the way the waves move and the falling of leaves everything it's a life force it's natural energy it's force it's used for a number of different things but as far as combat goes ki is spiritual and physical. chi and chakra come from china and India as there understanding of force energy ect china used chi for thousands of ways in usage like medicine and philosophy one of the usages for people is points in their bodies which are energy gates which allows you to access chi through spiritual and physical training sounding familiar isn't it overall you can't compare or undermine a series by trying to "prove" that something doesn't work with them by only using a one sided argument I explained in many many different ways in how your arguments are invalid because in the end all these power ups and all of these power scales are for the sake of the plot because it's anime it has it's own logic you can't just try to use some logic and then switch to a totally different logic because they don't correspond and I know these little explanation won't do anything because were humans we like to cause conflicts and argue on pointless wars like this one there is no winner but you and very one else don't care because conflict is what drives us all
[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Dr47xnoY8[/video]
Ok there are so many things to put on point firstly I'm going to say this I understand that naruto fans sometimes get really hype like any series and try comparing it to dragon ball z because if you realize it or not they respect it I to the point where they want to just go on it and compare it. true some fans go over board but using a derogatory term like narutards is jut pathetic one things is trying to prove your point but another is to fuel a flame war it's really pathetic of you especially since you had such good points now as for this ridiculous video of madara vs goku(I know this isn't the video but it applies) it's fine if you wanted to prove how in plain sight goku would topple over madara but you just had to go overboard we'll first of all trying to compare Naruto and DBZ is like comparing space and human autonomy they have completely different rules there not the same like any series you simply cannot compare them and I'm pretty sure the only reason the DBZ characters are this strong is because the author never intended there power levels to be compared to another series he did it for the sake of his plot just how naruto power scale goes for it's plot now your trying to be logical over how DBZ destroys Naruto not adding that your obviously biased towards DBZ but this is anime/manga there is no logic in this it has it's own logic. so here's where your argument falls apart and put in mind that I'm a huge fan of both series I grew up with dragon ball and dragon ball z and currently I'm loving naruto and bleach because it's ongoing and gives me the old DBZ vibes now if the naruto universe were to somehow magically appear in the DBZ universe "they wouldn't use chakra because it doesn't exist there" and honestly they would use ki even though there the same but I'll get to that later and for the sake of the argument lets their two different things which technically it is in there universe so ninja training is very strict and is very adaptive they would figure out that ki is there only means of fighting and would adapt to use it very very effectively now madara is a genies he is the reincarnation of indira who was gifted in using every ability that is possible for him in the universe now if he was in the dragonball z universe true saiyans are more adaptive because they have evolved over time and madara would most likely not have his sharigan because it's a bloodline trait that originates from chakra (shinju version) but never underestimate and uchiha or it would prove fatal what people always forget no matter how strong and opponent is mind over Strength even though the DBZ universe don't really go with that route as much as the naruto universe does which could prove Fatal for DBZ. Madara after having trained with enough time because right off the bat wouldn't be fair it's like an adult fighting a child you have to let him mature and train obviously with ki would be a dangerous opponent he wouldn't have his techniques or any for that matter but he genius mind and adaptive fighting style would create different techniques he could be more dangerous than freezer, the androids, cell no one could say how powerful he could become human or not which let's not forget something very important madara in the past has added different DNA To make himself more powerful I'm pretty sure madara would know he would be outmatch no matter how hard he trains so like the brilliant tactician he is he would probably try to get some saiyan DNA and do experiments to make sure he can obtain that power and if worse comes to worse he can always collect those dragon balls and wish himself as a saiyan or something clever
no one can say how strong anyone would be in that universe now if DBZ came to naruto universe there ki wouldn't be shit now I'm going to say this as logically as possible like you try to do but not really that in naruto ki isn't the same as in DBZ or people, ninja would use it like they do best case scenario it would come in as natural energy so it would be some sort of sage mode that they can use naturally because of their training because as the DBZ wiki says it's everywhere but it also says ki is in every person and thy draw it out from themselves but I'm just gonna use what you said so you could say the ten tails is ki physical form because it is just natural energy and I'm not even going to bring rikudou madara I'm not saying he would win but he would be a great opponent and we don't even know how powerful he is yet. But here comes the number one thing that will crumble your argument and it's that your basing how much the naruto universe wouldn't do shit to the DBZ because your using your facts from oh wait the DBZ wiki where it only counts in said DBZ universe now how unbiased how unfairly did you make this now here's the even bigger mistake you made because chakra and ki which is translated to chi or more referred to as qi ARE THE SAME yeah that's right I said it ki official definition is the spiritual and physical energy of a person where does that sound familiar? Oh wait chakra hits the spot now it wouldn't be fair if I used the naruto definition because I'll be a hypocrite and im as far from that ki and chakra are the ying and yang of a person even the DBZ wiki says it could either be positive or negative now this applies to a number of thing but were talking about fighting which is martial arts because that's what your argument is about who would win and we'll that's the answer ki is in General is everything the way the waves move and the falling of leaves everything it's a life force it's natural energy it's force it's used for a number of different things but as far as combat goes ki is spiritual and physical. chi and chakra come from china and India as there understanding of force energy ect china used chi for thousands of ways in usage like medicine and philosophy one of the usages for people is points in their bodies which are energy gates which allows you to access chi through spiritual and physical training sounding familiar isn't it overall you can't compare or undermine a series by trying to "prove" that something doesn't work with them by only using a one sided argument I explained in many many different ways in how your arguments are invalid because in the end all these power ups and all of these power scales are for the sake of the plot because it's anime it has it's own logic you can't just try to use some logic and then switch to a totally different logic because they don't correspond and I know these little explanation won't do anything because were humans we like to cause conflicts and argue on pointless wars like this one there is no winner but you and very one else don't care because conflict is what drives us all
