The Hiruzen, Hashirama and Madara Truth!

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listen all of you people, please

kishi never said that hiruzen was the strongest HOkage, he only said kage in his prime. So please don't try to make something else of it.

But don't underestimate that it still means he could have taken on the Third Raikage and that guy was a beast, but thats probably where the 1000 jutsu of hiruzen would have kicked inn!

And all people listen Hashirama Senju was just beast, lets put all of Sarutobi's chakra jutsu's against hashirama it would just be useless, woodstyle supresses chakra BAMM!

and tsunade is the strongest taijutsu fighter and it's said to come from hashi so he is unbeatable it taijutsu.

he knows genjutsu, can heal himself and it's said that medical ninjutsu is the an outway of genjutsu thats why sakura in part one came out of it when oro attacked.

lets not forget hashirama's super sealing technique's

And he ****ing beated up madara more times and let him live everytime, so hashi was even peacefull
and here's the funny thing if youre gonna fight somebody and you don't want to kill them but only defeat them it can say that he is way stronger then him and didn't see him like that of a threat

and most of all madara said himself only person who can defeat him was hashi, but he wouldn't thats why he respects him, because hashi respects his own village people and would never raise a hand to kill a comrade.

-with this i hope to end all of the BS!
 

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Yes, but YOU CANNOT compare them. Since Hashirama wasn't the strongest of all hokages in part 1. Not once was it said. But we saw him fight, and Kishi surely had no intentions of making him that strong at the time.

Then part 2 came. All characters were upgraded to 10 or more times stronger than in part 1. Just look at Oro with no hands were 50 times stronger, when he fought Naruto in 4 tailed form.

So basically you have to divide it in parts. For part 1 Hiruzen is the strongest, but part 2 obviously says different. So all it means, is that Kishi changed his mind on this matter. But it also means we cannot use what we saw from Hiruzen in part 1. What would happen to Hiru in part 2, if he also had an unknown boost? We just can't know, and unless we see him in a flashback or someone talks about him in part 2, we will never know U_U
 

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it's said that hashirama was the strongest of his time, name one person at the moment that can beat madara
and still if that person beats madara you know hashi's ability's i think the only person he could have a difficulty with is obito, but even beats him, because hashi has high stamina and can easily attack for longer than five minutes and that beats obito time space.
and here's the best thing is the whole ****ing story, you know how people say that kabuto his edo is part of him yeah its part of him, but no listen very carefully people are going to be amased because hashi almost caught every tailed beast if you wanna play it like that hashi can use almost every beast in his battle, so now can anyone tell me who the **** could beat him? (rikudou excluded)

-best anwser: Hashirama Senju!
 

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Hashirama was known as the 'strongest shinobi' during his time. Hiruzen was said to have been the strongest kage of his time. If we compare their ability together, you would be safe to conclude that, Hashirama's better!
 

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Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the Hokage in his Prime.

Old Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the current 5 kage. (onoki/A/Mei/3rd kazekage)

Get your facts right befor putting "Truth" in your thread title
 

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Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the Hokage in his Prime.

Old Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the current 5 kage. (onoki/A/Mei/3rd kazekage)

Get your facts right befor putting "Truth" in your thread title
where does it say that he was the strongest hokage in his prime?
kishi never said that, that stupidity came from a teacher of the primary school that guy didn't even knew hashirama
so no tell me the truth exaar or did i already tell it?:p
 

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where does it say that he was the strongest hokage in his prime?
kishi never said that, that stupidity came from a teacher of the primary school that guy didn't even knew hashirama
so no tell me the truth exaar or did i already tell it?:p
Iruka stated that Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the Hokage.
Kabuto stated Old hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 current Kages.

Again you show lack of understanding, This was not iruak's opinion, iruka simply said what others say about Hiruzen.
 

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who de hell could iruka could have known that knew the first hokage and hiruzen? he went to danzo, hiruzen or who?
Iruka stated that Hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the Hokage.
Kabuto stated Old hiruzen was said to be the strongest of the 5 current Kages.

Again you show lack of understanding, This was not iruak's opinion, iruka simply said what others say about Hiruzen.
 

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who de hell could iruka could have known that knew the first hokage and hiruzen? he went to danzo, hiruzen or who?
As i said, Iruka was simply stating what people said about Hiruzen during his prime.

People that did know Both the 1st hokage and Hiruzen still deemed him as the Strongest Hokage. Anyone around the same age as the Sanmin/Hiruzen were alive during hashirama's time.
Unless you think all of Hiruzens/Sannins Generation magically vanished from the face of the narutoverse.
 

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listen all of you people, please

kishi never said that hiruzen was the strongest HOkage, he only said kage in his prime. So please don't try to make something else of it.

But don't underestimate that it still means he could have taken on the Third Raikage and that guy was a beast, but thats probably where the 1000 jutsu of hiruzen would have kicked inn!

And all people listen Hashirama Senju was just beast, lets put all of Sarutobi's chakra jutsu's against hashirama it would just be useless, woodstyle supresses chakra BAMM!

and tsunade is the strongest taijutsu fighter and it's said to come from hashi so he is unbeatable it taijutsu.

he knows genjutsu, can heal himself and it's said that medical ninjutsu is the an outway of genjutsu thats why sakura in part one came out of it when oro attacked.

lets not forget hashirama's super sealing technique's

And he ****ing beated up madara more times and let him live everytime, so hashi was even peacefull
and here's the funny thing if youre gonna fight somebody and you don't want to kill them but only defeat them it can say that he is way stronger then him and didn't see him like that of a threat

and most of all madara said himself only person who can defeat him was hashi, but he wouldn't thats why he respects him, because hashi respects his own village people and would never raise a hand to kill a comrade.

-with this i hope to end all of the BS!
im unliking but hashi was the best kate however he would get destroyed by rinnegan madara
 
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