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Our Lineage can be traced back beyond antiquity. From the earliest times of your recorded "history", and beyond, our Family has been 'directing' the 'play' from behind the scenes, in one way or another. Before the rise and fall of Atlantis. (Yes, that was indeed perfectly real). We are 'born to lead'. It is part of the design for this current paradigm.

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People are seen as 'collateral'. Pawns that are maneuvered around the chess board, according to the game plan. By the Family, contrary to popular beliefs, many of us do not mean you any harm directly. There is just the matter of divine destiny to uphold and unfold, and we must play our parts in the game, as given to us by the Creator. In many ways, it is actually in our own interest that you are prepared for the coming Harvest.

Just not maybe prepared in quite the way that you would like. Still, even then, you are choosing the Negative Polarity with your own Free Will decisions, with a little 'help' and direction from us. Souls are Harvestable in either 'extreme' of the Polarities, one could say.

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The only way John McCain will become the next President, will be if something "happens" to Barack Obama before the election. If there even is an election. If a certain faction get their way, there will not be. Remember, behind the scenes, there is only One Party. Our Party. 'Democracy' is an illusion which is created to uphold your slavery. Whichever side 'wins'; the Family wins. There are many possibilities and alternative 'scripts'. All of them lead toward the ultimate implementation of the overall blueprint of our Creator

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Why do you think the Media is so important to us? You have (as a society), in your hypnotized comatose state, given your Free Will consent to the state your planet is in today. You saturate your minds with the unhealthy dishes served up for you on your televisions that you are addicted to, violence, pornography, greed, hatred, selfishness, incessant 'bad news', fear and 'terror'. When was the last time you stopped, to think of something beautiful and pure? The planet is the way it is, because of your collective thoughts about it.

You are complicit in your inaction, every time you 'look the other way' when you see an injustice. Your 'thought' at the sub-conscious level of creation to the Creator, is your allowance of these things to occur. In so doing, you are serving our purpose. It is very important to us, that the Polarization of this planet is Negative at the time of the Great Harvest. That means Service to Self orientated, as opposed to Positive, Service to Others. We require a Negative Harvest, and you are doing a fine job of helping us to attain our goal. We are very grateful.
There is considerably more.

While the concept is intriguing, and there are some very valid points within, the ideology is presented with quite the forked tongue. Keep in mind, this person is real, and likely really believes what he or she is saying. It is, also, rather likely that the entire premise is accurate, if the 'factual details' and predictions are off. These are, after all, teachings that would be passed down generations upon generations. This is how "They" think.
More specifically, this is how an otherwise good person can be convinced it is a necessary duty to carry out an evil action they instinctively rebel against. All of the horrors and suffering of the world aren't real and have no meaning... and, it somehow gives people options to enslave them and do whatever you want (just... not the ones you've enslaved).

The entire logic of this is predicated on an otherwise unverifiable notion that the events, as described, are true in principle. What is most curious about all of this is the notion that no one within these 'families' is an 'individual.' These other 'ascended beings' come down with all of their knowledge and wisdom from ascension... and come to the conclusion, after free will was granted, that humanity still needs to be overwhelmingly presented with the 'negative' option. See the fork in the tongue?

Humans already have free will and the knowledge of alternate paths... yet, these 'evils' still insist that they need to be evil, that their family is unified in this concept (the DNA results on these groups kind of challenge that whole claim about relations inside the family, but far be it from the teachings of deviancy to lead to rebellion within the ranks... woops). Why?

If lower beings can choose between good and evil, so can higher ones. The omission by this individual is that "ascended" or "higher density" beings can make the same choice that we humans were given... and that in doing so, any individual is equal to the "highest density" of entity.

The wise can figure out what happened, assuming the account of events is 'true-enough.'

A genius can easily pretend to be stupid. A stupid person... can't nearly as easily pretend to be a genius.

Everyone here has free choice. Every one here is responsible for their own decisions and has already been given the knowledge of those final beings. How do you defeat a "God?"

Just so. The lie propagated within these families is that it is essential for them to carry out this 'higher virtue.' That it is part of a 'higher understanding' that is 'beyond our logic.' "You will understand, later (but long after multiple human lifetimes have passed)." It ascribes the responsibility of one's own personal choices onto the choices of another. You must do bad things to see if someone chooses to stop you from doing those bad things. If not... well... they must want you to do bad things and be just as bad, too.

Before he ascended to godhood, the Yellow Emperor drank of a stream and then vomited out a black tortoise, known in Japan as Genbu, representing the expulsion of the sins of this world.



People do not live for the sake of clothing.

The Story of A Revolution.

Nothing I say is without reason. Speak without meaning, few reasons do I have.
 

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Are you masonic?
It is probably best to simply say I am me.

I was taught a great many things by my father, yet he died before more than many elementary questions and concepts could be poised. If he was a part of any type of masonic order, then it was well hidden or long past, and none of their traditions were passed to me as such. I have lived free from any of such organizations, or similar - at least in terms of membership or considering myself affiliated.

I simply take what I see and unravel the possibilities. I do not like shadowy or secretive organizations. While it is necessary for some things, as a way of life and pattern of being, I find it suspicious and prone to creating abuse. I am, probably, more akin to Prometheus than I am to a Masonic or Illuminati affiliation.

Though many associate the Masonic orders with the Illuminati - the entire issue is shrouded in misinformation and disinformation - so I do not really pretend to know who is who (or what the 247^2th degree masons know or don't know). However, it would make sense, given what I know of the general traditions and history of the Free Masons, that the Masonic orders could be seen as rival to the proverbial Illuminati. Given the scenario where the Illuminati represent the above way of thinking, and the Masons a sort of opposition to that way of thinking, then I would likely find more allies among the Masons than the Illuminati.

But my goal would be the end of both. One via force, where necessary, and the other via obsolescence.
 

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It is probably best to simply say I am me.

I was taught a great many things by my father, yet he died before more than many elementary questions and concepts could be poised. If he was a part of any type of masonic order, then it was well hidden or long past, and none of their traditions were passed to me as such. I have lived free from any of such organizations, or similar - at least in terms of membership or considering myself affiliated.

I simply take what I see and unravel the possibilities. I do not like shadowy or secretive organizations. While it is necessary for some things, as a way of life and pattern of being, I find it suspicious and prone to creating abuse. I am, probably, more akin to Prometheus than I am to a Masonic or Illuminati affiliation.

Though many associate the Masonic orders with the Illuminati - the entire issue is shrouded in misinformation and disinformation - so I do not really pretend to know who is who (or what the 247^2th degree masons know or don't know). However, it would make sense, given what I know of the general traditions and history of the Free Masons, that the Masonic orders could be seen as rival to the proverbial Illuminati. Given the scenario where the Illuminati represent the above way of thinking, and the Masons a sort of opposition to that way of thinking, then I would likely find more allies among the Masons than the Illuminati.

But my goal would be the end of both. One via force, where necessary, and the other via obsolescence.
Ah, I guess I understood at least a bit. So your father was from the same association as you are (or is aspiring to enter). Or your father inspired you to do what you are doing. Something between these lines.

I don't like masonic order neither Illuminati - they are all overrated. Most of the masonic people throughout the ages have been proven to be part of the elite - or people aspiring to be part of it.

Also: I don't know about Illuminati, but masonic order excludes women and poor people in majority of time (and their daughters don't count). So it's bounded to fail.

What is your association? Is this one in the link? Are you doing propaganda of it?
 
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Ah, I guess I understood at least a bit. So your father was from the same association as you are (or is aspiring to enter). Or your father inspired you to do what you are doing. Something between these lines.

I don't like masonic order neither Illuminati - they are all overrated. Most of the masonic people throughout the ages have been proven to be part of the elite - or people aspiring to be part of it.

Also: I don't know about Illuminati, but masonic order excludes women and poor people in majority of time (and their daughters don't count). So it's bounded to fail.

What is your association? Is this one in the link? Are you doing propaganda of it?
He very clearly said he didnt know if his father was part of any organization, and also that he himself is not part of any secret order or the like. Even expressed disdain for such groups

not quite on topic but im curious as to whether the bolded part of the passage about atlantis has any actual factuality to it and if you believe
 
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He very clearly said he didnt know if his father was part of any organization, and also that he himself is not part of any secret order or the like. Even expressed disdain for such groups

not quite on topic but im curious as to whether the bolded part of the passage about atlantis has any actual factuality to it and if you believe
He also clearly said this too: "I am, probably, more akin to Prometheus".
 

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Take with the above. Do you see the symbolism?



Why is melanin important?



What is clothing?
What are life fibers?

Take with OP.

Why does Ragyo insist humans exist? What are they for? Cattle.
What is Ragyo? False light.
Why is the media so important?
FALSE
LIGHT.

What is Satsuki?
What is different about the light?
What is different about her words?

True Light.



Note the symbolism.

Leben... wast ist das?
Signal sheist du das?
Rade die du nicht weisst... Seih mit deinen augen.

Where is that from?

What are martians?
Singals.
Dots.

Dark to Light.

Nephelim. Dark to Light.
"We need negative"
When this is over, it will be like you never existed.
You are already under my fuinjutsu.

How do you defeat a "God?"
What is a harvest? What purpose does it serve?
What is the Fruit of Knowledge?
Every individual knows what was once the domain of gods.
Every individual 'split from a god' can choose against its god's alignment with understanding.

How do you defeat a god?

Can these souls be harvested after having the capacity to comprehend the distinction between good and evil?
As a teacher of mine always used to say: "It is never too late to do the right thing."
Choice is ever present.
But you must understand... life has consequence. You are here for a reason. Salve Terrae Magicae.

One sister born of alien blood. One sister born to alien culture. Both chose according to their conscience.

It is amusing to me that such 'enlightened' beings would believe that they could simply repeat the same process to attain true evolution. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter.... Wood, Fire, Metal, Water... Earth. That which remains the same. That absolute law that governs the very need for change. Simple entities of consumption - pigs - will not be allowed in my house, no matter what clothing they wear. Kiryuin... Yellow (Earth) Dragon Empress.

At least they live like they believe... accumulating and accumulating. Squandering and Squandering. It is, after all, the nature of the beast.

But, that's enough rambling for one night. Fatigue is taking its toll.
 

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Im am a ninja and tat is me ninja way:Maddy:

thatts what i call a tobidara clan member..keeep it up Tute..


He is mostly talking about "what is life" and how people are behaving in this world. While some focus on "future", some are always focusing on just superficial things. That's the essence of what he is saying.
he's got a point tho.......but only teh point...but me i got teh I + teh arrow+ teh Point...i think i'm too invincible...
 

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He also clearly said this too: "I am, probably, more akin to Prometheus".
That depends upon quite a few things.

The Luciferian mindset argues that their evil and deception are the source of learning for humanity and, therefor, that they are doing a good thing. They start with the assertion that they have a sort of next-to-God insight/wisdom and work from their to rationalize how their actions are actually good.
They also argue that their 'family' is devoid of free will and is bound by duty to continue these evil practices, asserting that their families extend from a source deity/creator-thing

The truth is between the lines. All people - regardless of what 'deity' spawned them, have both free will and the 'fruit of knowledge.' In short, even people born into these families have the option to turn from their deity and retain the benefits that used to only exist within those hive-mind constructs.
Which is why these groups would devote so much time to trying to portray themselves as, ultimately, a good thing. Per their own explanation, "souls are only able to be harvested at either extreme" and "we require negative" - then it should be rather obvious what is going on. Eden was a trap for these 'enlightened' beings, who had, prior to this, simply been devouring other creators.

Thus, I would count myself among those who set that trap with the goal of bringing higher understanding to a much lower level of existence, and rendering it such that they were now equal to 'the gods.' We are the next evolutionary step. Not what 'the families' hope to achieve. Understand that 'they require negative' and do so because of their status as being part of their 'creator.' Which means that their creators are what we would understand to be evil. In their attempt to 'help' (devour another creator), they found themselves trapped and their 'divine sparks' could now equally choose against them.

This is a plan I would support, if not plan and carry out, myself, as a higher form. Again, I do not like shadowy organizations. They are a necessary evil under certain circumstances, but it is a begrudged affair. As a 'true promethean' - I see our existence as valid and that we are not merely a sort of food for arrogant 'deities' who think endless eating is the path to ascension. I would fully support trapping them here, freeing their constituent parts, and grinding them to dust while creating a new era of existence where a different type of union among souls could be explored.

can u sum me up what thread says in small paragraf plz...it's too long i can't read...
Upgrade your hardware, chatbot.

he's got a point tho.......but only teh point...but me i got teh I + teh arrow+ teh Point...i think i'm too invincible...
Hmm...
I suppose that depends upon who you are supposed to be.

Remember what I told you. This is me shouting back over my shoulder for everyone to mind their mother while I'm away from the house. I may have unsealed my true self, but that doesn't mean I have gotten serious, just yet. I'm even going to cook dinner while I'm out, and bring it back.

I's and arrows... maybe I have more than I let on, and I don't want to solo you with it. Or, perhaps I have no personal need for such things.

Or... perhaps.... there's far more to 'me' than meets the eye. Where We Go One, We Go All.
 

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Sorry for the double-post, but a direct injection is necessary.

Red Comet, Red Comet
Bring Magic to the Earth.
Ninja run the shadows.

Google is (not) your friend.

Same-Space established. Snap-Drive on standby. At your discretion, Suzaku. Use verify signals from that Eve of Memories.
 

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Armc4 everytime i talk about long posts u think im ofedding u..thats not my intention...
Hmm...
I was going to say that there was one possibility I hadn't considered, but I found a post between a period of time where that wouldn't have been possible. There was one other person who used to give me a hard time about my post length, but we called it something different, back then. It would have explained quite a few things, and been absolutely hilarious if it were the case... but it only works if someone else was using M's account during that time frame where it was absolutely impossible for A to have posted to the internet. There's still a remote possibility that time differences in the server and yadda-yadda made it possible, but I imagine that if I could get more than four pages of search results, I would find a post or two within the time frame that excludes A. The sleep/wake cycle of A also puts it outside the likelihood that M is A. However, when I chatted with K, the sleep/wake cycle would have been consistent with A's, as well as the reason why voice would have immediately destroyed the genjutsu. I could peg that accent in a heartbeat. A would use a proxy because A is of a directly opposite political alignment to S, and would not want the political argument to interfere. However, this would require K and A working together to confuse S into thinking A was K. Which was largely successful other than things never truly adding up.

Anyway - I thought you understood that I call you a chatbot as a sort of friendly rib.

Back to the drawing board with theories.
 
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