[Discussion] The gorosei

[Hashirama Senjuu]

If the gorosei are the highest ranking government officials, that would put them above the Marines.

I know almost nothing at all is known about them, but if you obtain that title in a similar manner too how akainu had to defeat akoiji then in terms of power that would put them above the Marines in that aspect as well.

That being said, they would be tiers above even white beard... that's insane

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

gorosei work in direct ties with cipher pol and I know chief kong is akainu's superior. I remeber there was a ranking on positions during or after the marineford arc but in terms of strength we really don't know. They could be useless in terms of combat power for all we know.

The only assumption we have is one of the gorosei having a sword.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

gorosei work in direct ties with cipher pol and I know chief kong is akainu's superior. I remeber there was a ranking on positions during or after the marineford arc but in terms of strength we really don't know. They could be useless in terms of combat power for all we know.

The only assumption we have is one of the gorosei having a sword.

Yeah I know, I'm only going based off assumption .. I see no reason why akainu wouldn't want to be part of the gorosei if he could as he wanted to be the head of the Marines so why not be in an even higher power and if he'd have to get their with the same way to becoming head admiral than the gorosei would be leagues above shank, gold Roger, whitebeard, etc.

 

[scorezor]

If the gorosei are the highest ranking government officials, that would put them above the Marines.

I know almost nothing at all is known about them, but if you obtain that title in a similar manner too how akainu had to defeat akoiji then in terms of power that would put them above the Marines in that aspect as well.

That being said, they would be tiers above even white beard... that's insane

mate ,the gorosei are just that , the gorosei , i dont think the gorosei are big deals , simply because how akainu talked to them , when he learned about doffy and people like that.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

Yeah nvm

 

[Passerby]

gorosei work in direct ties with cipher pol and I know chief kong is akainu's superior. I remeber there was a ranking on positions during or after the marineford arc but in terms of strength we really don't know. They could be useless in terms of combat power for all we know.

The only assumption we have is one of the gorosei having a sword.

Mihawk beat that old guy to become WSS confirmed.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

I never bothered to look at if Marines and World Government are one or two. Somehow I feel like the Marines will separate themselves from World Government. Ever since I started One Piece, the World Government are nothing but bad news. An organization so corrupted to its core. Non of them or at least a single Government agent showed a sign of goodness or having different thoughts. Cipher Pol on the other hand are simply a bunch of bounty-hunters and nothing more. Yet they appear to be officials in a way I don't understand. The only who give orders to them are either Admirals or above or Gorosei or Tenryuubito. The payramid of superiorities of all I mentioned bothers me to look at it and how they fit together.

 

[Caliburn]

The marines are the government's army, they are not an independent organization. You can draw a direct parallel with a real life government that rules a country and the country's army. Making a career within the marines is different than making a career within the World Government. In the former 'strength' is far more a decisive factor than in the latter. Spandam is a prime example of that.

There is some convergence possible, same way how many military officers in real life start political careers, and some of the Gorosei definitely had a reasonable amount of 'field experience'. In the end though I sincerely doubt that their physical strength currently exceeds that of the top marine fighters. For starters they are almost all old men who so far have only shown to be discussing and deciding things and they have been doing that for at least over two decades. Being strong is pointless if you don't show it. That's something Kong alluded on when Garp and Sengoku retired.

These are also the people who decided to install the Shichibukai system, which was designed to balance out the power of the Yonkou. If the Gorosei were superior to the Yonkou, there really was never any need for that system to exist.

 

[YellowFang]

Yep, they are the highest ranked WG officials, most probably celestials, but I hope they are not the strongest too.

WG has Navy as the main fighting force and CPs for undercover operations. If anyone, I want only CP0 leader to be in the top tier along with Admirals and Yonko.

Gorosei should remain just high ranking politicians or just good enough fighters if anyone of them do fight like that old man with a sword.

The marines are the government's army, they are not an independent organization. You can draw a direct parallel with a real life government that rules a country and the country's army. Making a career within the marines is different than making a career within the World Government. In the former 'strength' is far more a decisive factor than in the latter. Spandam is a prime example of that.

There is some convergence possible, same way how many military officers in real life start political careers, and some of the Gorosei definitely had a reasonable amount of 'field experience'. In the end though I sincerely doubt that their physical strength currently exceeds that of the top marine fighters. For starters they are almost all old men who so far have only shown to be discussing and deciding things and they have been doing that for at least over two decades. Being strong is pointless if you don't show it. That's something Kong alluded on when Garp and Sengoku retired.

These are also the people who decided to install the Shichibukai system, which was designed to balance out the power of the Yonkou. If the Gorosei were superior to the Yonkou, there really was never any need to for that system to exist.

Yep, precisely...

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yeah I know, I'm only going based off assumption .. I see no reason why akainu wouldn't want to be part of the gorosei if he could as he wanted to be the head of the Marines so why not be in an even higher power and if he'd have to get their with the same way to becoming head admiral than the gorosei would be leagues above shank, gold Roger, whitebeard, etc.

I think Chief Kongs position is what he's looking for considering the fact that they have the same position power as the gorosei in terms of naval/marine aspect.

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

I think Chief Kongs position is what he's looking for considering the fact that they have the same position power as the gorosei in terms of naval/marine aspect.

Yeah, I read up on Kong, the gorosei may very well not be that strong in combat, or maybe they're all conquer haki users or something like that but like Kong rules over every one even akainu but the gorosei can still fire Kong so I wonder what allows them to have so much power.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yeah, I read up on Kong, the gorosei may very well not be that strong in combat, or maybe they're all conquer haki users or something like that but like Kong rules over every one even akainu but the gorosei can still fire Kong so I wonder what allows them to have so much power.

I personally believe they have the same political power as kong but we'll see what happens. Because from the looks of how akainu was stepping all over their authority raises some questions.