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im not hirezen fan boy but i will say this . if u taking a fodder ninja opinion (suejustu)aka water boy into count . which dont forget he a teenager as ur way of proving harishima was better then lol. i guess the jokes on u

Hiruzen being the strongest came from Iruka. Lmao, that's even more pathetic. Additionally, people considering Hiruzen the God of Shinobi stems from his mastery over Genjutsu, Ninjutsu and Taijutsu; not the ridiculous notion that he's the strongest Kage. Hiruzen is old and weak, and his hype has been retconned so many times. You fanboys will see how Hashirama makes him look like a mouse in comparison to the rest of the Hokage if they fight, believe me.​
 

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Hiruzen being the strongest came from Iruka. Lmao, that's even more pathetic. Additionally, people considering Hiruzen the God of Shinobi stems from his mastery over Genjutsu, Ninjutsu and Taijutsu; not the ridiculous notion that he's the strongest Kage. Hiruzen is old and weak, and his hype has been retconned so many times. You fanboys will see how Hashirama makes him look like a mouse in comparison to the rest of the Hokage if they fight, believe me.​

dude i like harishima better but u get my point. but like u said we just gotta see them fight
 

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im not hirezen fan boy but i will say this . if u taking a fodder ninja opinion (suejustu)aka water boy into count . which dont forget he a teenager as ur way of proving harishima was better then lol. i guess the jokes on u

And Irukas opinon is any better?
 

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p.s why didnt bleach come out today
 

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and please take into account that in the 1st season KISHIMOTO had to keep all the characters skills to a minimum, SO, they have room in shippuden to show their greater skills.

example: Itachi and kisame could have kidnapped naruto with little difficulty. but they didnt because kishi saved their badass skills for shippuden. the skills have to match the episode.

example: kakashi had MS all this time but never used it in part 1.

so therefore, HIRUZEN probably has greater skills in which kishi will show us.

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And Irukas opinon is any better?

a i said the same thing to when iruka said it to . so what are we soppuse to do people .kishi right threw his characters to explain stuff.both ur fan clans have valed points .but who is right . i know who aka baby hokage
 

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a i said the same thing to when iruka said it to . so what are we soppuse to do people .kishi right threw his characters to explain stuff.both ur fan clans have valed points .but who is right . i know who aka baby hokage

what?
 

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and please take into account that in the 1st season KISHIMOTO had to keep all the characters skills to a minimum, SO, they have room in shippuden to show their greater skills.

example: Itachi and kisame could have kidnapped naruto with little difficulty. but they didnt because kishi saved their badass skills for shippuden. the skills have to match the episode.

example: kakashi had MS all this time but never used it in part 1.

so therefore, HIRUZEN probably has greater skills in which kishi will show us.

/thread
however , jiraiya would probably fight back hard , and it is safer to retreat even with their levels of skills , the akatsuki dont want kisame dying , let alone causing a huge comotion in the middle of town.

kakashi found it very difficult to use MS , so it was probably almost impossible to use it in p1 because it would drain him of all his chakra , whereas in part 2 his chakra has increased tenfold. kakashi had more efficient techniques than kamui , and if he had kamui introduced in the first part there would be no/less fights.
 

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however , jiraiya would probably fight back hard , and it is safer to retreat even with their levels of skills , the akatsuki dont want kisame dying , let alone causing a huge comotion in the middle of town.

kakashi found it very difficult to use MS , so it was probably almost impossible to use it in p1 because it would drain him of all his chakra , whereas in part 2 his chakra has increased tenfold. kakashi had more efficient techniques than kamui , and if he had kamui introduced in the first part there would be no/less fights.

true, but all charachters, as they progress through the series, show greater jutsu. so im HOPING hiruzen has some other badass jutsu up his sleeve. he was still giving the 1st and 2nd a run for their money
 

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necro76 u lame as hell for neg rep on my opinion ,grow up
 

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SMH, you are sooooo biased.lol

They both have the title of God of Shinobi, but that doesnt take away from Hiruzens other Hype:


1. The strongest of All previous Hokage

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2. Being Stronger than all other kages (3rd and 4th raikage, 3rd and 4th kazekage, Muu and Onoki, 3rd and 4th Mizukages)

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3. Learning and Mastering all forms of shinobi combat which gives him all 5's in databook

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4. Mastering and Learning over 1000 jutsu and all jutsu that exist within the leaf.

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5. And Defeated and/or stopped (Prime) Oro and Edo hashirama and Edo Tobirama. Which is a feat that No one else could have done, and he did it at a old age.


So Prime hiruzen is still a force to be reckoned with and im not mad at all!!
 

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true, but all charachters, as they progress through the series, show greater jutsu. so im HOPING hiruzen has some other badass jutsu up his sleeve. he was still giving the 1st and 2nd a run for their money

what i hope is for minato to teleport all the hokage , minato will hold off obito (he is stronger than kakashi and will either kill him or push him to near death),tobirama to fight sasuke(so he doesnt intrude into the war , it seems much fairer than any other kage fighting him , and we could see what he can do) ,hiruzen could fight sasuke instead(to make him live up to his hype)
 

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hiruzen still is strong but it was dumb to think he was stronger then hashi
 

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As far as I'm concerned, the title can be split. I want to see the viz translations from somebody that's not deluded, as well.
 

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All i have to say is this is just another one of dozens of examples where kishi has been trying to retcon himself after his change in opinion on the kages, and hiruzen fans can't get over the past.
 

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SMH, you are sooooo biased.lol

They both have the title of God of Shinobi, but that doesnt take away from Hiruzens other Hype:


1. The strongest of All previous Hokage

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2. Being Stronger than all other kages (3rd and 4th raikage, 3rd and 4th kazekage, Muu and Onoki, 3rd and 4th Mizukages)

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3. Learning and Mastering all forms of shinobi combat which gives him all 5's in databook

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4. Mastering and Learning over 1000 jutsu and all jutsu that exist within the leaf.


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5. And Defeated and/or stopped (Prime) Oro and Edo hashirama and Edo Tobirama. Which is a feat that No one else could have done, and he did it at a old age.


So Prime hiruzen is still a force to be reckoned with and im not mad at all!!

1. I hope you know the first scan was made by deluded hiruzen fannuts, such as yourself.
2. Madara mostly used hashirama's powers in the fight with all of them, so hashirama is easily stronger then all of them.
3. That's a 34. Tsunade herself is a 35.
4. Prime dosen't stop him from doing things. And as you grow older, you gain knowledge. Following that logic hiruzen doesn't get weaker, now matter how much you hype him.
5. They weren't trying, he got his ass beat, Hashi didn't use wood clones, dragon, or advent, tobi wasn't near water and didn't use his S/T ninjutsu, won by a technique minato taught him
6. You are mad, kid.
Edit: I might add that suigetsu called Hashi this title multiple times, Dan, a shinobi FROM hiruzen's prime said the only one who could defeat EMS Madara is Hashi, and Kabuto said he was so strong he is considered a myth.
Stop living in the past, kishi's clearly changed his mind. In this chapter it was confirmed.
 
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