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^ ThisItachi > Hiruzen. xD
And Hiruzen > Hashirama
If you know what i mean xd
^ ThisItachi > Hiruzen. xD
im not hirezen fan boy but i will say this . if u taking a fodder ninja opinion (suejustu)aka water boy into count . which dont forget he a teenager as ur way of proving harishima was better then lol. i guess the jokes on u
Hiruzen being the strongest came from Iruka. Lmao, that's even more pathetic. Additionally, people considering Hiruzen the God of Shinobi stems from his mastery over Genjutsu, Ninjutsu and Taijutsu; not the ridiculous notion that he's the strongest Kage. Hiruzen is old and weak, and his hype has been retconned so many times. You fanboys will see how Hashirama makes him look like a mouse in comparison to the rest of the Hokage if they fight, believe me.
im not hirezen fan boy but i will say this . if u taking a fodder ninja opinion (suejustu)aka water boy into count . which dont forget he a teenager as ur way of proving harishima was better then lol. i guess the jokes on u
And Irukas opinon is any better?
a i said the same thing to when iruka said it to . so what are we soppuse to do people .kishi right threw his characters to explain stuff.both ur fan clans have valed points .but who is right . i know who aka baby hokage
however , jiraiya would probably fight back hard , and it is safer to retreat even with their levels of skills , the akatsuki dont want kisame dying , let alone causing a huge comotion in the middle of town.and please take into account that in the 1st season KISHIMOTO had to keep all the characters skills to a minimum, SO, they have room in shippuden to show their greater skills.
example: Itachi and kisame could have kidnapped naruto with little difficulty. but they didnt because kishi saved their badass skills for shippuden. the skills have to match the episode.
example: kakashi had MS all this time but never used it in part 1.
so therefore, HIRUZEN probably has greater skills in which kishi will show us.
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however , jiraiya would probably fight back hard , and it is safer to retreat even with their levels of skills , the akatsuki dont want kisame dying , let alone causing a huge comotion in the middle of town.
kakashi found it very difficult to use MS , so it was probably almost impossible to use it in p1 because it would drain him of all his chakra , whereas in part 2 his chakra has increased tenfold. kakashi had more efficient techniques than kamui , and if he had kamui introduced in the first part there would be no/less fights.
what?
true, but all charachters, as they progress through the series, show greater jutsu. so im HOPING hiruzen has some other badass jutsu up his sleeve. he was still giving the 1st and 2nd a run for their money
*Waits for a wild Kages to appear*
SMH, you are sooooo biased.lol
They both have the title of God of Shinobi, but that doesnt take away from Hiruzens other Hype:
1. The strongest of All previous Hokage
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2. Being Stronger than all other kages (3rd and 4th raikage, 3rd and 4th kazekage, Muu and Onoki, 3rd and 4th Mizukages)
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3. Learning and Mastering all forms of shinobi combat which gives him all 5's in databook
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4. Mastering and Learning over 1000 jutsu and all jutsu that exist within the leaf.
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5. And Defeated and/or stopped (Prime) Oro and Edo hashirama and Edo Tobirama. Which is a feat that No one else could have done, and he did it at a old age.
So Prime hiruzen is still a force to be reckoned with and im not mad at all!!