The fodders are the real ninjas

Raijingan

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The fodders are the ones who actually use ninja tools, hand seals and other conventional kinds of combat. Their first rule is to stay unseen, look for an opening then kill the enemy with shuriken basically. In ANBU assassin missions you use stealth, you kill the enemy then you leave quietly. Shadow clones are used to analyze the enemy or confuse the enemy into overestimating your numbers.

A normal ninja has limited chakra so these tactics are of utmost importance. When direct confrontation is inevitable then taijutsu is to be prefered initially to test the opponent and to save chakra.

They use hand seals for all their ninjutsu and genjutsu. The speed of doing the seals are very important since if you know what jutsu they are going to use you know who to counter it.

Anyone with greater chakra are able to do greater jutsu, although their chakra will go out faster if they do so. Therefore none of these ninjas are unbeatable. Even if you have great chakra a sword in the chest still kills you.


This was true in every battle in part 1. Now, going on missions would be quite pointless as it would be no challenge. Just think about all the ninja who could solo any mission ever (even before the war when the nations were enemies):


  • 7 gates Gai (should he have been the fifth hokage?)
  • Raikage (is he even a ninja?)
  • EMS Madara
  • Hashirama (how did he even die?)
  • The entire akatsuki but in particular Deidara


These guys are so powerful that normal shinobi would never be able to beat them. Why not let them do all the missions in the village, they would be invincible. Instead the fodder chuunin who actually use ninja skill are sent to die.

There was this limitation that made actual ninja sklls relevant before (in particular in part 1). Remember what it was?

Yes, it was chakra. Chakra was the reason why these characters could not solo everyone. Hashirama probably died in battle because he had no chakra left or something. The limitation of chakra was the very reason why these characters still used shurikens and simple kunai.

What is chakra now? Chakra is now the very thing that makes the top tiers into gods. They have so much that numbers are irrelevant, conflicts are irrelevant. Their power is bleach level. A never ending power source. Shinobi in general are irrelevant against these guys.

My point is that I find it sad that the powers of a ninja has grown so much (and is so important) that normal ninja training is pointless. Can you imagine Naruto being hokage, him sitting there doing paperwork while normal fodder shinobi die in missions? I can't. He would be able to do everything himself.

The fact is that power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>skill, and that fact is unfortunate.

It kind of makes you wonder what will happen after the war. Will ninja training stop, since they are so useless anyway? Maybe they should get other jobs and let Kakashi, Naruto and Sasuke go on all the missions. Maybe mission are pointless as well, maybe the nations will pay Naruto and co to be idle. And if the nations join together, what happens then? The shinobi are still pointless as they would lose their importance.

I can't see a future in Naruto after the war

Unless, Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi lose their powers
 

IndraGripen

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Baka, that is all i can say...

p. s. - they wont lose ther powers
 

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don't see how people like Hashirama/Madara and etc aren't real ninja...... They have trained more than the "real ninja" you are talking about.
 

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It's nice to have good threads for a change. :yay:
I agree. +rep
 

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Anyone up to Iruka's level can be considered real ninjas imo. The rest range from legend to God.
 

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Neji was arguably Chuunin status back then. Shikamaru and Temari were also Chuunin. Kankuro was Chuunin. Choji and Kiba were the only genins but those Genin could beat most Chunins in the leaf so they are technically Chunin status.

Real ninjas are like Zabuza and Part 1 Kabuto
 

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Captain Obvious to the rescue.

Nice thread though.
 

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Respect for people without names.
 

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Your mom was a real ninja when she snuck out of the house. oooooooohhhhh

High FiveFifa street/Fifa dnfhbvauhbfiuasbfeuiabsdinsaijb scThat confident is really what gives.....good.
 

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After the war, there will be no more ninja. Ninjutsu will turn into Ninshuu like it was meant to and everyone will live in peace.
 

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After the war, there will be no more ninja. Ninjutsu will turn into Ninshuu like it was meant to and everyone will live in peace.

If this manga was full of cliches I would like a happy ending. But it's something special in the past, I want a same old ending of history repeating itself, with unknown exact ending to the shinobi world, but I'm sure that won't happen, so your post stands true.
 
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