The Final Villian we all missed. How he's been hiding right under our "noses"

[End of Days]

Re: The Final Villian we all missed. How he's been hiding right under our "noses"

very well thought out and written

 

[adeshina365]

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Excellent thread, highly plausible. + rep

This theory is a breath of fresh air, good job.

You should read the theories in my signature, they deal with similar ideas (especially the one in red).

 

[GhostProject]

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One of the best theories I've read!

I like the themes of this theory too. Senju gained the body of the Juubi, Uchiha gained the mind of Sojobo. Very appropriate to the story =D

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

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This is ridiculously overcomplicated. It would take to long to explain in the manga. And i just got the noses pun.

 

[Senju Bean]

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Really nice theory. There are a few things that I think needs addressed though.

If Sojobo is the cycle of hatred, then the Shinju is the cycle of love? It would probably make more sense if Sojobo is death and the Juubi is life.

If the tree suppresses Sojobo, then why when Sojobo resurfaces, he would resurface on the Shinju of all places? Futhermore, the Shinju should have the power to crush any human that even gets near the fruit, let alone eat it.

Also, after the fruit was eaten, the Juubi went on a violent rampage, possibly bring ending millions of lives. It wasn't only after Hagaromo and Kaguya. It was said in the manga that the Juubi brought complete destruction and despair to the world. Doesn't sound like something a benevolent tree of life would do. That is why I suspect that the Shinju and Sojobo are two sides of the same coin: "God" and that after the fruit was eaten, Sojobo was reborn as the violent Juubi and the benevolence of the Shinju was reborn as Hagaromo.

 

[danksy]

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good read!

 

[Silverblade]

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This theory brought out the idiots on the forum.

Way to go OP for enlightening the idiots of this place. I didn't know this much existed.

 

[NewKageism]

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when I type good read. It was good read it was wonderful read. good read understatement. I mean it had great details. It made me want to go looking for little details again myself.

Believe it! OP and derp pump it up

 

[Stark]

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Best thread I've seen in months

 

[Siva Deepan]

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Awesome awesome theory...

your way of thinking is great.. mind blowing

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

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If Sojobo is the cycle of hatred, then the Shinju is the cycle of love? It would probably make more sense if Sojobo is death and the Juubi is life.

Lol. Well, not exactly. I don't think there is a "cycle of love" or at least never one I heard mention; there is only an absence of the "cycle of hatred". I think without the hatred you naturally have love.

If the tree suppresses Sojobo, then why when Sojobo resurfaces, he would resurface on the Shinju of all places? Futhermore, the Shinju should have the power to crush any human that even gets near the fruit, let alone eat it.

Look at Madara says here..

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"The action of two opposing forces created everything in nature.."

Many people wrote that off as the Sage splitting the Juubi into his two sons, but "created everything in nature" makes me think otherwise. How was the creation of the two sons responsible for creating "everything in nature"...it wasn't. The opposing forces he is talking about are Sojobo and The God Tree who existed in the same pillar, the Tree. So if you look at it this way, with Sojobo and the Tree (Juubi) being the same thing at one time, then the fruit (being Sobjo's will) existence starts to make a little more sense. The fruit is simply Sojobo trying to break free, which he can only do by getting some one to eat the fruit. Much like our sinister serpent in the story of Adam and Eve.

Also, after the fruit was eaten, the Juubi went on a violent rampage, possibly bring ending millions of lives. It wasn't only after Hagaromo and Kaguya. It was said in the manga that the Juubi brought complete destruction and despair to the world. Doesn't sound like something a benevolent tree of life would do. That is why I suspect that the Shinju and Sojobo are two sides of the same coin: "God" and that after the fruit was eaten, Sojobo was reborn as the violent Juubi and the benevolence of the Shinju was reborn as Hagaromo.

I see the point you're making but I have to disagree, simply because of the first thing you said. "After the fruit was eaten the Juubi went on a rampage." You see the problem with this? What you're saying is that the essentially the "final villain" of the story, whom you are saying is the Juubi, needed people to steal the fruit that was specifically said not to be touched in order to then take on his role as "final villain", otherwise, the Tree would still be living in peace no? This final needs to have a plan, not just be reacting to something. So the differences in our ideas is that you're saying the "final villain" (the Juubi) wanted no one to touch the fruit while I'm saying the final villain (Sojobo) wanted people to touch the fruit. With my theory, an evil is already in place without the need to motivated by theft, which again, would seem to go against was Kishi has been writing.

Another point I would like to bring up about the Juubi. What do we know about it? It was said to be the Progenitor, it created the world, it carried mountains, split oceans, etc. The Juubi is basically the personification of Nature, for these are things that Nature does, carries mountains and so on. So with this in mind, would it really make sense for the Juubi to be evil? Nature = Evil? The Progenitor = Evil? It doesn't quite add up. You could even compare it to the Bible or at least the Old Testament. God is the Progenitor he created all things, yet it is his rival that is ultimate evil, one could even call him the "final villain." So I think it parallels nicely with out story, God or the Juubi is the Progenitor, creator of the world, and his rival Satan/ Sojobo is the evil we se messin everything up.

Again, it just wouldn't make sense that the Progenitor is at the same time evil. Nature is never evil.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

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Good theory, but suddenly deciding that the main villain is, from what i can tell, a japanese version of the devil, would be fairly weird.

 

[Lightning Release]

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Epic ****ing thread. I actually read it all for once. Wow. Great job, sir.

 

[Wik]

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This is all brilliant. The ONLY complaint about it is that if this guy's supposed to be the final villain, I am not a fan of how he was "too cleverly hidden" for us as readers to hold a grudge against him.

Exceptional observations and + rep though.

 

[Flawž]

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Great theory man. I read the entire thing and i actually think this is very much plausible indeed. Kishi will most likley act on this once the flower blooms or once the sage is revealed.

+ Rep.

 

[Shiranui Genma]

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Awesome theory!! mind = blown + rep sir

 

[MythicDonut]

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Great theory right here.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

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Nice Theory, I love it. Very well thought out. And I dont mean to go all typical Femme on you or anything but

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Sasunoo------Yin seal (Yin Seal is Uzumaki/Senju related)...who are connect to Sage Mode

Wow, nice find. I guess it really takes a FemmeFatale eye to discern those kind of things. Not only is it a symbol connecting that statue to the Yin Seal (Sage Mode), but it is no secret that a mark on the forehead symbolizes "enlightment" or what is known as the "third eye". It's a path to transcendence and peace in oneself. When coupled with the statues hands the image shows an idol that is on a different plane of existence i.e a God. Don't even get me started on the rest of the image. The hanging ear lobes, closed eyes and head being depicted on a circle all draw meaning from real life religions and texts.

 

[Cooh]

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Awesome read, so what you mean is that Naruto will embody the Juubi and Sasuke will embody sojobo as the last remaining Uchiha.

 

[phantomlord22]

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one of the best theory I've read on this site!
nice job man!
Great