The failure of muslim immigration in Europe

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This thread is about the failure of multiculturalism and the problems with muslim migrates from an objective point of view.


As the immigration flow from Syria, Iraq, Somalia and other muslim countries has increased in the past year following the conflicts in Middle-East so has the negative side effects of this immigration. Violence crimes and rapes have increased as muslims all over the Europe are overpresented in each of those statistics.

My country Finland has been receiving 15 000 immigrants this year (our whole population is about 5 million) and the number has estimated to be increased to 30 000 for this year. Most (over 90%) of immigrants are young adult males of ages 18-35 and they are mainly from Iraq. In the past two weeks there have been 8 rapes reported done by immigrants. These young iraqi males are harassing young random girls and asking them to come for the night with them and when they decline they call them whores.

Just last weekend a young 18-year old girl was walking home at night from a party when a young immigrant male attacked her in the park and raped her. After the crime he asked for the gril to be his facebook friend??!

The latest incident didn't even involve a women, and not even a human but a cat! Immigrants found a homecat outside their asylum and they took it inside and took a video of another immigrant streching it's limbs and porking it's genitals Iäm not going to post the video here, but here's a photo:
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I am so sick of this. Europe is not going to be able to handle this mass immigration for much longer and with the increase in crime rate this is a huge problem. Yet some of you still belittle this.
So I wanted to make this thread and show you all why islam culture doesn't adjust to western societies. Why multiculturalims has failed. Muslims think western womens are lowly individuals, whores. They do not respect our laws. They do not respect natives. I will prove this statement with the official reports and statistics of each nation:

Britain:

-In 2013 Muslims made up 13.1% of the prison population but just 4% of the general population meaning that they are 3.3 times more likely to be incarcerated than a member of the general population.

-There are almost three million muslims in Britain (4,8% of the whole population) and they alongside with other non-EU-migrants cost britain 120 billion pounds when european immigrants contributed 5 billion pounds.





Sweden

-"A report studying 4.4 million Swedes between the ages of 15 and 51 during the period 1997-2001 found that 25% of crimes were committed by foreign-born individuals while and additional 20% were committed by individuals born to foreign-born parents. In particular, immigrants from Africa and Southern and Western Asian were more likely to be charged of a crime than individuals born to two Swedish parents by a factor of 4.5 and 3.5 respectively.

-Findings from a previous study published by the Swedish government in 1996 determined that between 1985 and 1989 individuals born in Iraq, North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia), and Africa (excluding Uganda and the North African countries) were convicted of rape at rates 20, 23, and 17 greater than individuals born in Sweden respectively.
Overall, North Africa and Western Asia were strongly overrepresented in the crime statistics.
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Germany:

-Merkel says German multicultural society has failed:


- Thilo Sarrazin, a senior official at Germany's central bank, said that "no immigrant group other than Muslims is so strongly connected with claims on the welfare state and crime".


-Immigrants in Germany are overrepresented in crime statistics. In Berlin, young male immigrants are three times more likely to commit violent crimes than their German peers.[17] The crime rate of immigrants is at first glimpse about 5 times higher than that for Germans

France:

-"A 2006 study found that the share of immigrants has a positive and significant impact on the crime rate, confirming that a larger share of immigrants is associated with a higher crime rate. There are 4,7 million muslims in France (7,5% of the whole population)"

Denmark:

-individuals whose ethnic background is from Morocco, Somalia, Lebanon, Pakistan and Iraq are still overrepresented as convicted criminals by a factor of 1.5 to 2.5


Finland:

-According to official statistics, 27.0% of rapes have been committed by foreigners in Finland. Foreigners comprise 2.2% of the population. Most rapes in relation to their numbers are done by muslims as you can see from below.

-Here's a chart of rape crimes in Finland in the year 2013 done by ethnicities. The first colum is for the ethnicity. The second is the number of rapes altogether. The third column is the population of that ethnicity in our country. The last colum (circled numbers) are the factor numbers as a ratio to finnish natives. The factor for finnish natives is 1. So for example Tunisians rape 67 times more than natives!
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Netherlands:

"-Nonwhite Dutch youths are arrested by police and are convicted of a serious crime more often than their White Dutch compatriots. More than half of Moroccan-Dutch youths aged 18 to 24 years in Rotterdam have been investigated by police.
- According to a 2009 study commissioned by Justice Minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin, of 447 criminal files, 63% teenagers convicted of serious crime are children of parents born outside the Netherlands.
The ethnic composition of the files in the study was: "White Dutch" - 37%; Moroccans - 14%; Unknown origin - 14%; "other non-Westerners" - 9%; Turkish - 8%; Surinamese - 7%; Antillean - 7%; and "other Westerners" - 4%"​

Switzerland:

-"In Switzerland, 69.7% of prison population did not have Swiss citizenship, compared to 22.1% of total resident population (as of 2008).
-Immigrants from Germany, France and Austria had a significantly lower crime rate than Swiss citizens (60% to 80%), while immigrants from Angola, Nigeria and Algeria had a crime rate of above 600% of that of Swiss population."

Norway:

-"According to a 2011 report by Statistics Norway, in 2009 first,-generation immigrants from Africa were three times more likely than ethnic Norwegians (or rather individuals who are neither first- nor second-generation immigrants) to be convicted of a felony while Somali immigrants in particular being 4.4 times more likely to be convicted of a felony than an ethnic Norwegian was. Similarly, Iraqis and Pakistanis were found to have rates of conviction for felonies greater than ethnic Norwegians by a factor of 3 and 2.6 respectively."

-Immigrants are also overrepresented in sexual crime statistics. In a news report in 2010, a spokesperson for the Oslo Police Department stated that every case of assault rapes in Oslo in the years 2007, 2008 and 2009 was committed by a non-Western immigrant.

In conclusion


From the kindness of our heart we offer a place to live for these migrants and this is how they pay us? You'd think that the overpresentation in crime statistics from their fellow muslims would change the attitudes of innocent muslims overall as to more humble. Well guess again!

Almost half of the muslim population in Britain wants the most barbaric law of our time: the sharia law to be enforced on brits:


1/3 of british muslim students thinks that killing in the name of religion is ok:


Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified


We in Finland have streched to our limits by giving them temporary places to stay but still there are incidents where these immigrants dare to complain about their meals. Can you actually believe that they are demonstrating in fron of the police stations and asylums that they are being treated poorly?! Treated poorly by a country that loses 1 billion dollars for immigration expenses in a year. By a country whose volunteer workers provide you with food which would satisfy our conscript soldiers in the woods, but no not you who are obviously escaping from the atrocities of war:

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42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).






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I must emphasize: these are official statistics, polls and researches.

We are in trouble! If you criticize immigration policy the muslims accuse you of racism! All of this is real and if something isn't done I'm afraid more conflicts and terror attacks may break out. Do you think Europe should close it's borders? What are your experiences of immigrants?​
 
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Now this thread can be closed.
All I posted was facts. I have seen that video and like all leftist liberals it belittles the problems. Good example of propaganda.

The overpresentation of muslims in the crime rates are real.

Even the chancellor of Germany admits multiculturalims has failed. Yet you dare to post liberal propaganda and belittle the problem!
 
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Wait... You make this like all of them are bad! Of course there are bad refugees but there also some who really try to immigrate into the west culture!

Just last week we had some of them in school (they get some german classes in our school) and they talked to one of my friends who is gay. He is obviously gay so there was no need to say this yet they understood each other just fine!!

I get your point but making this general for the whole Religion is stupid!
 
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Wait... You make this like all of them are bad! Of course there are bad refugees but there also some who really try to immigrate into the west culture!

Just last week we had some of them in school (they get some german classes in our school) and they talked to one of my friends who is gay. He is obviously gay so there was no need to say this yet they understood each other just fine!!

I get your point but making this general for the whole Religion is stupid!
But the problem is that we have no ways of separating the bad ones from the good ones. This has gotten out of hand. I know there are good muslim immigrants but it's just unbearable to see that a tunisian immigranst rapes 60 times more than a finnish native.

Truth is the crime rates have increased. Sweden is now the rape capital of Europe.

How do you think this problem can be realistically solved if not by closing borders?
 
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But the problem is that we have no ways of separating the bad ones from the good ones. This has gotten out of hand. I know there are good muslim immigrants but it's just unbearable to see that a tunisian immigranst rapes 60 times more than a finnish native.

Truth is the crime rates have increased. Sweden is now the rape capital of Europe.

How do you think this problem can be realistically solved if not by closing borders?
I think we can just well separate them!
Those who commit crimes will be send back!

And how many crime reports exist in your country made by immigrants? You have to divide the nummer with the population that arrived this year by 30.000

That way you can see that most of them aren't as bad as you think.

We have to teach oir culture of course but not like the way our system does. These people never faced gays, "slutty" dressed women so of course they will struggle.
 

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All I posted was facts. I have seen that video and like all leftist liberals it belittles the problems. Good example of propaganda.
And all I see from this thread and with the websites presented bunch of right-wing propaganda. Fools exaggerating, over-reacting when the facts give a clear, cut picture.

Immigration, whether Muslim or not, is essential for Europe's economy. Europe has a low native birthrate and ageing population; thanks to legal immigration, workforce will maintain healthy and strong for manufacturing and agricultural needs. Muslim population in Europe is only 4% and, even with refugee would rise to 5%. It won't turn to a Muslim continent, like you think it would.

The overpresentation of muslims in the crime rates are real.
A study of illegal immigration to the US; immigrants are less likely to commit crime than the native population. Your sources are nothing more than lies.

This one will just debunk the claims:

You act like a nationalist but haven't done anything for Europe.
 
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Deport any ''refugee'' that cannot show a Syrian passport but claims to be of that country. Those people are just wellfare hunters
 

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I think we can just well separate them!
Those who commit crimes will be send back!

And how many crime reports exist in your country made by immigrants? You have to divide the nummer with the population that arrived this year by 30.000

That way you can see that most of them aren't as bad as you think.

We have to teach oir culture of course but not like the way our system does. These people never faced gays, "slutty" dressed women so of course they will struggle.
But the problem has already happened when they commit the crime. Out country is preparing a law which will send back immigrants who have commited serious crimes.


I just posted you statistics. You want me to repeat myself? A nigerian male immigrant rapes 40 times more likely than a native. Does this answer your question?

Wow you seriously are blaminf our culture for their crimes? "They have to adjust". Lmao. I'm glad you are admitting that the problem is in their culture. But what a way to take the blame from the criminals and victimize them. You are just justifying rape!
 

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And all I see from this thread and with the websites presented bunch of right-wing propaganda. Fools exaggerating, over-reacting when the facts give a clear, cut picture.


A study of illegal immigration to the US; immigrants are less likely to commit crime than the native population. Your sources are nothing more than lies.

This one will just debunk the claims:

You act like a nationalist but haven't done anything for Europe.
The official crime statistics show that muslims are overpresented in violence and rape crime statistics and you dare to accuse propaganda?

The official economy research in Britain shows that muslims don't contribute sh!t but instead they take 200 billion pound in welfare costs and you dare to accuse propaganda?

Lmao I just proved you wrong with all my statistics. What study are you talking about? In U.S? That has nothing to do with Europe but it's nonetheless false since 50% of american rapers are white and the rest are minorities. Do the math!

You post me a link to a biased blog and you claim I have bad sources?! It's a blog! What a ridiculous poster. Lmao

Immigration, whether Muslim or not, is essential for Europe's economy. Europe has a low native birthrate and ageing population; thanks to legal immigration, workforce will maintain healthy and strong for manufacturing and agricultural needs. Muslim population in Europe is only 4% and, even with refugee would rise to 5%. It won't turn to a Muslim continent, like you think it would.
No it's not. This is old news and doesn't apply anymore. We in Finland have 400 000 unemployed of our own and almost 100 billion in debt. Tell me how do 30 000 young male immigrants who cost 1 billion a year are going to help in that situation.

All an all anything you have said doesn't justify the overpresentation in rape and violence statistics.
 

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Muslim rape argument in Europe debunked:

Sweden -

Norway -

United Kingdom -

As someone from a country whose immigrant population is almost 50%, I'm grateful to them for supporting the economy. Like I said, Hawker; you haven't done anything for Europe, never have, never will. Nationalists are really stupid.
 
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But the problem has already happened when they commit the crime. Out country is preparing a law which will send back immigrants who have commited serious crimes.


I just posted you statistics. You want me to repeat myself? A nigerian male immigrant rapes 40 times more likely than a native. Does this answer your question?

Wow you seriously are blaminf our culture for their crimes? "They have to adjust". Lmao. I'm glad you are admitting that the problem is in their culture. But what a way to take the blame from the criminals and victimize them. You are just justifying rape!
When... Did I... :|
I'm not playing the blame game. I'm saying that their Situation is like you put an ice cube into fire.
Our culture and their culture do not fit that well.

So how about we give them a chance to immigrate slowly into our culture instead of saying "look this is homosexuality, you better get used to it".
 

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Muslim rape argument in Europe.

Sweden -

Norway -

United Kingdom -

As someone from a country whose immigrant population is almost 50%, I'm grateful to them for supporting the economy. Like I said, Hawker; you haven't done anything for Europe, never have, never will. Nationalists are really stupid.
I just posted you official statistics. Nothing you post will change those.

You are squirming like an animal tangled in a web. My argument consists of official statistics and what the head of the European states have said and your arguments consists of blogs? Lmao make me laugh more. You are precicely the core of the problem.

Your links consist of irrelevant bashing with the notion that all immigrant policy critics are nazi's and they are posting right wing propaganda. Really mature and well formed argument right? Debunking something needs more than just the word "debunked" in the title and some shady blogger giving his biased opinions. Most importantly you can't debunk official statistics!
 
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I just posted you official statistics. Nothing you post will change those.

You are squirming like an animal tangled in a web. My argument consists of official statistics and what the head of the European states have said and your arguments consists of blogs? Lmao make me laugh more. You are precicely the core of the problem.
What's the point of making this thread when you aren't willing to listen to the other side of the argument?
 
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I'm not playing the blame game. I'm saying that their Situation is like you put an ice cube into fire.
Our culture and their culture do not fit that well.

So how about we give them a chance to immigrate slowly into our culture instead of saying "look this is homosexuality, you better get used to it".
You ask all those raped girls do they care about the cultural differences? Look it's clear our cultures don't fit together well but it's no excuse. Is it our burden to teach them not rape women or persecute homosexuals? Well it's not but we do it anyway. Yet this stuff happens.

How many more girls do you think we should sacrifice for this slow immigration process?

You have to admit the change doesn't happen in one night. It doesn't even happen in five years. But why should we take all the negative effects of this immigration situation. What do we owe the immigrants when we have already given them place to stay and free food?
 

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And to add to my previous post; Any refugee that has the nerve to complain about the food and sheltering facilities should be deported. That's a clear sign they're no war victims.
 
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