The fact that Hagoromo hasn't stopped sasuke already means he is a hypocrite.

[Trúth]

A Bijuu

I'm sorry but what relevance do Bijuu have when there are people out there whoms power is 10 times more powerfull than a Bijuu?
a PS slashes Konoha away in one sweep
Kage shinobis like 3d raikage already are equal to a Bijuu
A giant rasengan can hollow out mountains

U blame everything on the Bijuu is laughable since even though they are strong , the potential that a lot of humans have is vastly more destructive, so even getting rid of them would not change the fact that shinobis themselves can learn nuke level jutsus themselves

I'm not blaming them. The fact is they are what they are and ninja are what they are. They would have been taken advantage of and Hagoromo is a fool for not even considering that. Naruto is as well.

 

[3MESSIAH]

The only idiot here is you Lol. It doesn't matter whether the bijuu are responsible for the actions of others. In order to prevent the action of others they must be reigned in. Sad fate but that's life.



It doesn't matter. People will do it again, it's a cycle that can't be stopped unless the bijuu can't be used for some reason.



Be annoyed. These are the facts. There were more to the Akatsuki then Uchiha and Senju DNA you know. Those Kage level shinobi handled the bijuu quite easily. It would happen again.

i understand your point of view...the whole must be reigned in thing....however i dont think it works....if i were to put myself in the shoes of someone who was reigned in i know i would go nuts....i would become even more destructive and disobedient...well that`s because of my character....i despise being controlled and i value freedoom above all else...and there are a lot of other people like that...in fact we all aspire to freedom...of making our own choices...of learning on our own....becoming able to achieve peace and greatness eventually.....as of now the reigning in thing still needs to exist in this world i guess....the world is not yet ready for naruto`s ideology and still needs sasuke`s...but one day i hope it will be ready for naruto`s....because deep in all of our hearts people really yearn for that freedom....freedom to grow and change

 

[Umari Senju]

The only idiot here is you Lol. It doesn't matter whether the bijuu are responsible for the actions of others. In order to prevent the action of others they must be reigned in. Sad fate but that's life.



It doesn't matter. People will do it again, it's a cycle that can't be stopped unless the bijuu can't be used for some reason.



Be annoyed. These are the facts. There were more to the Akatsuki then Uchiha and Senju DNA you know. Those Kage level shinobi handled the bijuu quite easily. It would happen again.

They aren't facts but your opinion. How many Shonen Manga have you read? Have any if them dealt with super over complicated and dark material like you and others keep complaining doesn't go down in the manga.

You want something like this go read Berserk, Claymore, Akame Ga Kill, Attack on Titan, etc. Stop *****ing about how Naruto needs to be like the real world. Or how terrible the people are because they don't act like you want them to. Honestly your suggestion would have ended the manga right there.

 

[silmarill]

I'm not blaming them. The fact is they are what they are and ninja are what they are. They would have been taken advantage of and Hagoromo is a fool for not even considering that. Naruto is as well.

so that is your argument? they are what they are

well then , we should kill every human aswell since they can potentially become very dangerous and taken advantage of if they learn jutsu
man u are a joke Lol

 

[Tennis Robot]

i understand your point of view...the whole must be reigned in thing....however i dont think it works....if i were to put myself in the shoes of someone who was reigned in i know i would go nuts....i would become even more destructive and disobedient...well that`s because of my character....i despise being controlled and i value freedoom above all else...and there are a lot of other people like that...in fact we all aspire to freedom...of making our own choices...of learning on our own....becoming able to achieve peace and greatness eventually.....as of now the reigning in thing still needs to exist in this world i guess....the world is not yet ready for naruto`s ideology and still needs sasuke`s...but one day i hope it will be ready for naruto`s....because deep in all of our hearts people really yearn for that freedom....freedom to grow and change

Why isn't the world ready for Naruto's ideology? Adopting his beliefs is what will lead to peace.

 

[Trúth]

They aren't facts but your opinion. How many Shonen Manga have you read? Have any if them dealt with super over complicated and dark material like you and others keep complaining doesn't go down in the manga.

You want something like this go read Berserk, Claymore, Akame Ga Kill, Attack on Titan, etc. Stop *****ing about how Naruto needs to be like the real world. Or how terrible the people are because they don't act like you want them to. Honestly your suggestion would have ended the manga right there.

The problem is beside Naruto the ninja world is a bit more realist. The Akatsuki for example is exactly what would have happened irl. Just as it would happen again in the NV.

i understand your point of view...the whole must be reigned in thing....however i dont think it works....if i were to put myself in the shoes of someone who was reigned in i know i would go nuts....i would become even more destructive and disobedient...well that`s because of my character....i despise being controlled and i value freedoom above all else...and there are a lot of other people like that...in fact we all aspire to freedom...of making our own choices...of learning on our own....becoming able to achieve peace and greatness eventually.....as of now the reigning in thing still needs to exist in this world i guess....the world is not yet ready for naruto`s ideology and still needs sasuke`s...but one day i hope it will be ready for naruto`s....because deep in all of our hearts people really yearn for that freedom....freedom to grow and change

The world isn't like Naruto. Sasuke realizes this and is taking the logical course of action.

so that is your argument? they are what they are

well then , we should kill every human aswell since they can potentially become very dangerous and taken advantage of if they learn jutsu
man u are a joke Lol

My argument is the Truth hence my name. Your argument is ridiculous and shows desperation, which is why you resort to bashing. The humans power is nothing like what would happen should ninja try to take control of the all the bijuu and resurrect the ten tails again. Comparing the two just shows who the real fool here is.

 

[3MESSIAH]

Why isn't the world ready for Naruto's ideology? Adopting his beliefs is what will lead to peace.

i am speaking of the world we live in...not NV

 

[KingHashirama]

The only idiot here is you Lol. It doesn't matter whether the bijuu are responsible for the actions of others. In order to prevent the action of others they must be reigned in. Sad fate but that's life.

So i'm the idiot for telling you 2+2 = 4?

In order to prevent actions, why not kill all humans? end of story.... no humans = no wars.. oh wait, then there will be animals who'll still be fighnting.


Hitler tried it... Stalin tried it...... yet we blame them for being criminals?

 

[Tennis Robot]

i am speaking of the world we live in...not NV

I am aware of that.

 

[Umari Senju]

The problem is beside Naruto the ninja world is a bit more realist. The Akatsuki for example is exactly what would have happened irl. Just as it would happen again in the NV.



The world isn't like Naruto. Sasuke realizes this and is taking the logical course of action.

Sasuke's view is no more realistic than Naruto. You don't obtain peace through killing threats that wouldpossibly endanger it. That simply creates resistance due to fear. Sasuke seeks to destroy. Building upon that death his ideal world.

Yeah that is logical and will that last?

 

[Trúth]

So i'm the idiot for telling you 2+2 = 4?

In order to prevent actions, why not kill all humans? end of story.... no humans = no wars.. oh wait, then there will be animals who'll still be fighnting.


Hitler tried it... Stalin tried it...... yet we blame them for being criminals?

Because not all humans are to blame. However those humans who are should be killed imo. That doesn't even correlate to this situation in any case. Humans can't be used as sources of mass power for others who would do bad with that power. If a human could do that then they should be reigned in as well. Because yes that's life.

Sasuke's view is no more realistic than Naruto. You don't obtain peace through killing threats that wouldpossibly endanger it. That simply creates resistance due to fear. Sasuke seeks to destroy. Building upon that death his ideal world.

Yeah that is logical and will that last?

It is logical. The system has failed, logic dictates that what has failed and can't be fixed should be destroyed and rebuilt to function properly. You can dislike it but Sasuke's ideals are far more realistic than Naruto's ideals.

 

[3MESSIAH]

I am aware of that.

The problem is beside Naruto the ninja world is a bit more realist. The Akatsuki for example is exactly what would have happened irl. Just as it would happen again in the NV.



The world isn't like Naruto. Sasuke realizes this and is taking the logical course of action.




My argument is the Truth hence my name. Your argument is ridiculous and shows desperation, which is why you resort to bashing. The humans power is nothing like what would happen should ninja try to take control of the all the bijuu and resurrect the ten tails again. Comparing the two just shows who the real fool here is.

well the world wont be like that forever i believe...someday this civilization will mature and will be ready to throw down sasuke`s ideology and accept naruto`s. cause it is the right one..peace through understanding and forgiveness....it is our responsibility to believe in that better outcome...because one day all this belief will make it true...it`s a lot better than accepting sasuke`s way for good and not trying to improve ourselves

 

[Tennis Robot]

well the world wont be like that forever i believe...someday this civilization will mature and will be ready to throw down sasuke`s ideology and accept naruto`s. cause it is the right one..peace through understanding and forgiveness....it is our responsibility to believe in that better outcome...because one day all this belief will make it true...it`s a lot better than accepting sasuke`s way for good and not trying to improve ourselves

Do you think that you are in a position to criticize the maturity of the general population? And do you believe that people aren't trying to improve themselves?

 

[WalksInShadows]

What the hell is wrong with people. It's been proven over and over again that the bijuu had nothing to do with this. The problem is with uchihas and indra's reincarnations.

that's a really ignorant and narrow-minded way of looking at it, because the world had this problem before Indra was ever born. And even after the Uchiha as a clan was started, they weren't the only ones being instigators or participants. Using Sasuke as a means of trying to put the cause of the world's problems all on the Uchiha just to justify a dislike for them is just petty really. Ashura's side of the bloodline had its fair share of nefarious characters and Grade A knobs as well.

 

[Umari Senju]

Because not all humans are to blame. However those humans who are should be killed imo. That doesn't even correlate to this situation in any case. Humans can't be used as sources of mass power for others who would do bad with that power. If a human could do that then they should be reigned in as well. Because yes that's life.

It is logical. The system has failed, logic dictates that what has failed and can't be fixed should be destroyed and rebuilt to function properly. You can dislike it but Sasuke's ideals are far more realistic than Naruto's ideals.

if you paid attention to real life history, you would realize that your logic is flawed...

 

[3MESSIAH]

Do you think that you are in a position to criticize the maturity of the general population? And do you believe that people aren't trying to improve themselves?

well it might seem like i am trying to be in such a position,but it`s not the case...this is merely the portrayal of my opinion on how i see things being better...it doesnt neccessarilly mean that my opinion should be absolute...far from it....i believe people should be free to making their own choices...not how one individual seems appropriate

and yes i do believe people are trying...improvement is seen everyday..step by step....kishimoto did his part by making the manga naruto....because he instills people who read it with hope and greater understanding towards realizing peace...he truly is a great person and i only wish i was able to contribute to all this the way kishi does...

 

[Trúth]

if you paid attention to real life history, you would realize that your logic is flawed...

If you say so

 

[silmarill]

If you say so

Do u even realise what the failures are in nv systems?
It's not the Bijuus or Jinchuuriki
It's the fact that people are trained from age 7 to become killer machines and then go on 'missions Lol' to earn money and find all of this completely normal
The Bijuus are all relatively of small concern in this tbh

 

[Trúth]

Do u even realise what the failures are in nv systems?
It's not the Bijuus or Jinchuuriki
It's the fact that people are trained from age 7 to become killer machines and then go on 'missions Lol' to earn money and find all of this completely normal
The Bijuus are all relatively of small concern in this tbh

I understand all of that and I'm sure Sasuke does as well. The bijuu are certainly not a small part especially considering the huge role they just played in the war and the obvious consequences of allowing them to just wander about on their own like in the past. This war could happen again with different villains. If you think that's small then I don't know what to say to you Lol.

 

[Wolfus]

The only idiot here is you Lol. It doesn't matter whether the bijuu are responsible for the actions of others. In order to prevent the action of others they must be reigned in. Sad fate but that's life.



It doesn't matter. People will do it again, it's a cycle that can't be stopped unless the bijuu can't be used for some reason.



Be annoyed. These are the facts. There were more to the Akatsuki then Uchiha and Senju DNA you know. Those Kage level shinobi handled the bijuu quite easily. It would happen again.

What? People will go to war, with or without the bijuu. They are just powerful tools, nothing more. It's not their fault.

They were at war even before chakra even existed. How the hell are this supposed to fall upon the bijuu?